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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #210 on: May 14, 2019, 03:29:40 PM »
May I ask what have the SDLP and the UUP done wrong in comparison to the extreme parties in the North?

Itís not as is the SDLP have murdered anyone, have they?
Genuinely curious.

They got old and they didnít tool up for the cynical professionalism/professional cynicism of SF/DUP

Earlier mention of co-option. SF routinely co opt young and inexperienced people on to council so that in their first election they are incumbents and possibly even have a track record.

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« Reply #211 on: May 14, 2019, 03:32:08 PM »
May I ask what have the SDLP and the UUP done wrong in comparison to the extreme parties in the North?

Itís not as is the SDLP have murdered anyone, have they?
Genuinely curious.

It's how you sell it . . . Sinn Fein could never have the support of ordinary Nationalists when the IRA was still engaged in armed struggle. When they gave it up Sinn Fein portrayed themselves as the peacemakers who wanted a United Ireland through political means.

SDLP never really pushed for a United Ireland hard enough so they lost a lot of support that way and once they lost big personalities like Hume and Mallon they were always going to struggle. McDevitt offered them some hope but then he was too principled for stepping down for something which in todays politics would barely cause a ripple!!!

Likewise the DUP were hard liners taking a back seat to the UUP crying down the Good Friday agreement but then there were 29% odd against it and mostly Unionist so they hoovered those up and then went into Government with Sinn Fein anyway!!!

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« Reply #212 on: May 14, 2019, 07:45:06 PM »
May I ask what have the SDLP and the UUP done wrong in comparison to the extreme parties in the North?

Itís not as is the SDLP have murdered anyone, have they?
Genuinely curious.

They got old and they didnít tool up for the cynical professionalism/professional cynicism of SF/DUP

Earlier mention of co-option. SF routinely co opt young and inexperienced people on to council so that in their first election they are incumbents and possibly even have a track record.

The old time nodding dogs on the back shelves of the cars of yesteryear had more capacity for independent thought than the current batch of SF clones - all looky likeys.

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« Reply #213 on: May 14, 2019, 09:45:23 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #214 on: May 14, 2019, 09:47:49 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.
Youíve gone full Jamie Bryson.


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« Reply #215 on: May 14, 2019, 09:48:14 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

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« Reply #216 on: May 14, 2019, 10:42:30 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.
Which Durkan was co opted?
Which Dallat was co opted?
Which Paisley was co opted?
Which Robinson was co opted?

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« Reply #217 on: May 15, 2019, 09:00:00 AM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

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« Reply #218 on: May 15, 2019, 10:04:57 AM »
Anyone guess who'll be elected in the various constituencies in the 26? Mairead McGuinness will prob top the poll in Midlands/North/West. Apart from that???
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« Reply #219 on: May 15, 2019, 10:20:09 AM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.

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« Reply #220 on: May 15, 2019, 10:25:27 AM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.

Are you trying to say nepotism is rife in NI politics?

Are Diane, Iris, Paul Maskey, the Durkan's, young Poots and Co not picked on merit?

Big Gavin R is no relation to Peter the punt.

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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #221 on: May 15, 2019, 10:28:26 AM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.

Are you trying to say nepotism is rife in NI politics?

Are Diane, Iris, Paul Maskey, the Durkan's, young Poots and Co not picked on merit?

Big Gavin R is no relation to Peter the punt.

The 26 are as bad I've noticed. The amount of posters I've seen  with familiar surnames is shackin, so it is.

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« Reply #222 on: May 15, 2019, 11:13:19 AM »
How will it go in your area down South?
Our council in Offaly is currently 8FF 4FG 3SF 1Renua Ireland 3 Independents.
3 electoral areas.
Birr: 6 seats 2FF 1FG 1SF 1 Renua Ireland 1 Independent
Tullamore: 7 seats 4FF 1 FG 1 SF 2 Independents
Edenderry: 6 seats 2 FF 2 FG 1SF 1 Independent

Anyone guess who'll be elected in the various constituencies in the 26? Mairead McGuinness will prob top the poll in Midlands/North/West. Apart from that???
We should probably partition the south elections into a separate thread. Gets lost amongst the 6 county stuff.

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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #223 on: May 15, 2019, 12:10:23 PM »
Whats the view on Mark Durkan in Dublin? Will he get elected?

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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #224 on: May 15, 2019, 12:23:19 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.

Iíll ask you the same question that Marty34 is unwilling to answer - which of these have been co opted?
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