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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1425 on: April 02, 2019, 07:21:26 PM »
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/
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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1426 on: April 02, 2019, 07:49:43 PM »
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
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Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it’s Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday’s game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

A lot of planets aligned for Mayo to win a National League title yesterday.

The first and most important reason was Dublin taking a rest during the League this year.

The Second was Mayo going out early in the Championship last year. 

If ever there was an opportunity for to claim springtime Silverware this was the chance.

This Kerry team have been greatly over hyped based on past underage glory.

All true. To an extent. Hound is correct in that a Clifford goal at the end would have resulted in a different narrative today and different photos. We probably should have won by more, but any win at ht looked unlikely because Kerry's defensive set up was fazing us.
Another other reason we managed to win it, was the contribution of new players that can play at this level. Really play. It is apparent here that Horan is not going with players that Rochford used to call on.
I don't think it fazed Mayo at all, look at how easy Vaughan got in for his goal chance 1st half and Boland opted to fist over the bar when the goal was on. Mayo looked to exploit rookie Graham O’Sullivan all game and he was caught badly out of position for that Tracey goal that sealed the win. I also thought the Kerry full back line got weaker once Sherwood was subbed off.

A big part of Horan's first time as manager with Mayo 2011-2014 was getting the most out of the 2006 U21 All Ireland winners and now he's looking to do the same with 2016 U21 All Ireland winners yet some think underage success means little when it comes to senior football.

I thought Sherwood was the biggest weak link in the Kerry defence. He was marking Darren Coen in the 1st half and Coen won every ball that went in to him. He got switched on to James Carr for the 2nd half and was getting well beat by him before being taken off.

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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1427 on: April 02, 2019, 08:01:41 PM »
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1428 on: April 02, 2019, 08:43:14 PM »
Has one of our Roscommon posters been decommissioned?
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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1429 on: April 02, 2019, 08:45:52 PM »
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

You're yesterday's story, a bhuachaill, get used to it! ;)

So you don’t subscribe to the “Dublin Thousand-Year Reich“ theory which has been the constant whinge of a couple of defeatist contributors to this forum over the past few years.  ;)
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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1430 on: April 02, 2019, 08:49:01 PM »
Generous comments from the Anglo-Celt about Jim Gavin and the Dublin team.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/sport/roundup/articles/2019/03/28/4171691-opinion-dubs-are-a-team-to-be-proud-of/

You're yesterday's story, a bhuachaill, get used to it! ;)

So you don’t subscribe to the “Dublin Thousand-Year Reich“ theory which has been the constant whinge of a couple of defeatist contributors to this forum over the past few years.  ;)

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« Reply #1431 on: April 02, 2019, 09:25:49 PM »
Mayo were very impressive yesterday and I think they look rejuvenated this year. Aidan O'Shea looks as lean as I've seen him for Mayo and seems to be lasting the pace of the game much better, he hasn't really delivered for Mayo but this is the year.

They will likely pose the biggest threat to Dublin this year with Tyrone next in line.

Kerry look pretty average and were bulled all over the pitch yesterday, they seem to be really lacking in leaders. Mayo destroyed them when the game was in the melting pot.
Gas.
Imagine how different the narrative would be had Clifford not missed the sitter at the end! People would be totally writing off Mayo as bottlers! Instead it’s Kerry were bullied and have no leaders!

Kerry are a young team, who will learn loads from Sunday’s game. Plus David Moran will make a huge difference.

Kerry would have fluked it and Mayo would have been the architects of their own downfall, for me that match was a 4 point hammering. Mayo were down to 14 men for the last 10 minutes too with a soft/silly red card for O'Shea. Mayo were rampant in the second half and a bit like the semi-final meetings in 2017, they let Kerry back into the game when they should have them well out of sight. They were failings on Mayo's part. Whatever may have happened with the Clifford chance, there's not much denying that Kerry were comprehensively outplayed over the course of the 70 minutes, Mayo had plenty of goals chances they didn't convert throughout - Vaughan had one early doors, Boland had one on when he took the point instead, Carr had one in the second half, they also hit a number of poor enough wides as well.

Kerry are a young team who look a few years off really being top contenders, they have big issues at the back, in the middle of the pitch and  physically look behind Dublin, Mayo and Tyrone. Worryingly as well is the form of Geaney and O'Donoghue who look shadows of their former selves.

I don't see Kerry as any better than last year, there's a lot of hype based on nothing really that surrounds them. I'm sure in 2/3 years they'll be back in All Ireland finals but I don't see them being able to beat Dublin or Mayo in a big Championship game in Croke Park this year.

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« Reply #1432 on: April 02, 2019, 10:27:32 PM »
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.

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« Reply #1433 on: April 02, 2019, 11:25:27 PM »
Apart from all those complaints eh?
Kerry Diarmuid o’Connor should have been black carded for the foul on Boland.
AOS was first booked when Jack Barry lulled him to the ground

On other points, Sherwood was destroyed, I said at HT we should get the ball into Coen, he won everything
Lastly Boland’s chance was not a goal chance, it’s not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him
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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1434 on: April 02, 2019, 11:44:13 PM »

Lastly Boland’s chance was not a goal chance, it’s not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him

What do you think footballers do when they get around the keeper and player retreat back on the line?

There was a goal there for the taking, he opted to take the point which is fair enough but the goal was very much on.

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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1435 on: April 03, 2019, 12:26:04 AM »
Well done to the mayo boys. Better team on day. Our lads never showed up on the day and could have stole at at the end. Still have a Gavin White, David Moran, Micheal Burns, Tadgh Morley and John Buckley to return. P.Geaney first game back since operation. Jason Foley only back from injury and James Donoghue will improve with more games. Thought referee could have given more protection to Cifford, O'Brien and O'shea who were pulled and dragged off the ball. Referee should have red carded Diarmuid O'Connor for high challenge on Gavin Crowley. Tom Sullivan has his nose busted too. There was a small dunt on Tommy Walsh by Aidan O'Shea in first half and Mayo forwards pulling Kerry backs to the ground at the end. Sure look the better team won and we can't have any complaints.

Sure that's full of complaints.

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« Reply #1436 on: April 03, 2019, 12:30:23 AM »
Apart from all those complaints eh?
Kerry Diarmuid o’Connor should have been black carded for the foul on Boland.
AOS was first booked when Jack Barry lulled him to the ground

On other points, Sherwood was destroyed, I said at HT we should get the ball into Coen, he won everything
Lastly Boland’s chance was not a goal chance, it’s not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him

Correct. That was never a goal chance and Boland was brave as f**k to win that ball ahead of keeper. Also Kerry were very well set up defensively for that game. Ultra defensive really. A lot of the narrative about that game has been bollocks.

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« Reply #1437 on: April 03, 2019, 12:54:29 AM »



One defender back and a few others trying to run back. It was certainly a goal chance but the angle Boland was at probably made up his mind to fist the bar over the bar.
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« Reply #1438 on: April 03, 2019, 01:03:13 AM »
Any team well set up defensively does not concede goals like that last Sunday and Kerry were lucky they didn't concede at least 5 goals due to ropey defending.

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Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
« Reply #1439 on: April 03, 2019, 07:16:14 AM »
Apart from all those complaints eh?
Kerry Diarmuid o’Connor should have been black carded for the foul on Boland.
AOS was first booked when Jack Barry lulled him to the ground

On other points, Sherwood was destroyed, I said at HT we should get the ball into Coen, he won everything
Lastly Boland’s chance was not a goal chance, it’s not soccer, just cause he was round the goalie there were three Kerry lads back and he was at an angle. What he should have done was gone to ground the second the goalie swung outta him

It was definite goal chance as you can see below. He decided to take his point which is fair enough but without any doubt at all, the goal was on, you can clearly see that in the photo below. He absolutely has the time and space to check back in and roll it into the net.

Correct. That was never a goal chance and Boland was brave as f**k to win that ball ahead of keeper. Also Kerry were very well set up defensively for that game. Ultra defensive really. A lot of the narrative about that game has been bollocks.