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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #14955 on: April 18, 2019, 04:44:50 AM »
Pretty much the opposite of my experience.  Taxes way up for me.

Me too.

My personal tax refund went up about 25%, and I probably average an extra $150 a month net pay.

I am sure it is at some cost to the collective somewhere - but I have to admit that from a purely selfish back pocket perspective the last tax reform put more money in my household.

I got a really bad hammering this year. Most folks here are in the same boat but its not surprising given the way the changes are set up to hit people in cities around CA.

Yes, we are lucky living in Nevada with our lack of state (and many other) taxes.

They do tax the shit out of our weed though.

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« Reply #14956 on: April 18, 2019, 04:27:09 PM »
"While the investigation highlighted numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian Government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign... the evidence was not sufficient to warrant criminal charges."

It's a good job nobody can agree on a definition of 'collusion' because the above statement sounds pretty close!!!

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« Reply #14957 on: April 18, 2019, 05:39:40 PM »
"In May 2017, then Attorney General Jeff Sessions told Trump that Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein had just appointed Mueller as special counsel. Trump slumped back in his chair, according to notes from Jody Hunt, Sessions’s chief of staff. “Oh my God, this is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I’m fucked,” Trump said. Trump further laid into Sessions for his recusal, saying Sessions had let him down.

“Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency,” Trump said, according to Hunt’s notes. “It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.”

The next morning, Trump tweeted, “This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!”

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« Reply #14958 on: April 18, 2019, 11:52:40 PM »
"While the investigation highlighted numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian Government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign... the evidence was not sufficient to warrant criminal charges."

It's a good job nobody can agree on a definition of 'collusion' because the above statement sounds pretty close!!!
yourself and Eamonn keep grasping watching too much Rachel Maddow lads

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Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« Reply #14959 on: April 19, 2019, 09:52:43 AM »
“How could you let this happen, Jeff.”

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“Unbelievable,Jeff”
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« Reply #14960 on: April 19, 2019, 01:53:17 PM »
The Democrats should play the ball rather than the man.   They don't have enough experience .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk
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« Reply #14961 on: April 19, 2019, 02:33:36 PM »
The Democrats should play the ball rather than the man.   They don't have enough experience .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

You may be right. The expedient approach would be to move on, if only because so many people so focused on defensive voting that they'll accept their own guy/gal over the perceived apocalyptic possibilities of the other side no matter how dirty their own side appears to be.

You do have to wonder though what would be happening if the roles were reversed. What if Trump was a Democrat? (I'm talking purely about his personal corruption, lack of morality and utter contemptibility as a human being. His repugnant, callous, ignorant policies are a separate issue).

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« Reply #14962 on: April 19, 2019, 03:19:51 PM »
If Trump were a Democrat he’d have gotten nowhere near the presidency because Dem voters would have laughed him out of the early caucuses. Only in the hateful GOP could such a clown have got the nomination.

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« Reply #14963 on: April 20, 2019, 07:22:26 PM »
Trump wouldn't have won the presidency  If the the Clintons hadn't hijacked The Democratic Party  ""Between the super delegates and getting the questions before the debates"" This  just meant a lot of Sanders supporters stayed at home ;)