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« Reply #14850 on: March 25, 2019, 09:54:22 PM »
The bottom line for the Democrats and most television networks is to oust trump no matter how they do it ,

This increases both in my estimation.
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« Reply #14851 on: March 25, 2019, 10:48:32 PM »
The bottom line for the Democrats and most television networks is to oust trump no matter how they do it ,

This increases both in my estimation.

So you are saying that fitting someone up for a crime they did not commit and continue to say that it is fact is ok?

Considering your alias name has Armagh in it what short memories eh?

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« Reply #14852 on: March 26, 2019, 12:10:07 AM »
Iíve been reading the political internet tealeaves again with a particular eye on my good friends further to the right of the political spectrum and Iíve once again feel compelled to write something here when I really do have more important things to be doing. But anyway...

If anyone could care to look back when I last bothered to post on us politics I did say Muller would turn up nothing. It doesnít actually matter. Trump has effectively dropped his agenda that got him elected. Yes the wall may be built potentially but itís been clear that the policies that are more important arenít going to change. Catch and release border control is being utilized, birth right citizenship wonít be touched, immigration courts are clogged and Trump was cheerleading immigration like a standard Republican to help grow the economy. Heís got a massive hard-on for Israel and is showing signs of going back on his original anti-interventionist stance. Heís been boxed in by the party establishment and while he might still tweet a good game heís actually not doing anything he promised that someone like Jeb or Mitt Romney wouldnít have done. Thatís probably why the Muller report is going away if you allow me to wear my tinfoil hat for a minute. He gets to still play President for a bit more but heís dancing to the establishments tune.

So if youíre a Democrat I wouldnít worry about this. A significant chunk of Trumps voting base who havenít got their head up his ass have finally given up on him and wonít be voting for him or any republican in 2020. So long as the Democrats donít put forward someone utterly toxic theyíll win easily. Bearing in mind that the demographic that voted for Trump is also dying of old age, opiate overdoses and suicide at unprecedented rates (a cruel statistic but none the less may prove significant given the fine margin that Trump won by).

Given the above I have a strong feeling that Trump wonít be re-elected. In fact if the Democrats play it right like going with someone who has cross over appeal like Andrew Yang it may well be a landslide. But that said I have doubts Yang could get nominated.
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« Reply #14853 on: March 26, 2019, 12:12:40 AM »
The bottom line for the Democrats and most television networks is to oust trump no matter how they do it ,

This increases both in my estimation.

What about Justice Kavanagh and the Covington catholic school coverage?

You should be very embarrassed by that comment, you obviously do not live in the United States.

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« Reply #14854 on: March 26, 2019, 02:32:23 AM »
The bottom line for the Democrats and most television networks is to oust trump no matter how they do it , Rachel Maddow is crying on live tv that there was no collusion and some other clown is saying itís white privilege that got him and his family off the hook , they have been selling a lie for 2 years they should be ashamed of themselves

Were you ashamed of the GOP over the birther stuff, led by the now president and tacitly endorsed all the way to the Speaker at the time?

Were you ashamed by the likes of Jade Helm? Are you ashamed of the GOPís general embrace of ignorance, anti-intellectualism and bigotry?

Are you ashamed of Trump cosying up to men like Alex Jones? David Duke? The refusal to unequivocally condemn white nationalism and racism?

Are you ashamed of Trump palling around with murderous, dictatorial strongmen while basically telling longtime US allies to go f**k themselves?

Are you ashamed of Trump purposely and callously having crying babies torn from their mothers and tossed into the terror of the immigration detention system to try to intimidate other would be illegal immigrants?

Are you ashamed of Trumpís stunningly cynical and appalling record on environmental issues?

Are you ashamed of his utter ignorance on a plethora of issues and his bald-faced lying on even more?

Are you ashamed of his unprecedentedly appalling personal conduct as president? As a human being?

I could go on, but you get the picture. Take your sanctimony elsewhere.

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« Reply #14855 on: March 26, 2019, 04:45:53 AM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

Can you please lay out your case for placing the blame on Obama?

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« Reply #14856 on: March 26, 2019, 08:41:34 AM »
Iíve been reading the political internet tealeaves again with a particular eye on my good friends further to the right of the political spectrum and Iíve once again feel compelled to write something here when I really do have more important things to be doing. But anyway...

If anyone could care to look back when I last bothered to post on us politics I did say Muller would turn up nothing. It doesnít actually matter. Trump has effectively dropped his agenda that got him elected. Yes the wall may be built potentially but itís been clear that the policies that are more important arenít going to change. Catch and release border control is being utilized, birth right citizenship wonít be touched, immigration courts are clogged and Trump was cheerleading immigration like a standard Republican to help grow the economy. Heís got a massive hard-on for Israel and is showing signs of going back on his original anti-interventionist stance. Heís been boxed in by the party establishment and while he might still tweet a good game heís actually not doing anything he promised that someone like Jeb or Mitt Romney wouldnít have done. Thatís probably why the Muller report is going away if you allow me to wear my tinfoil hat for a minute. He gets to still play President for a bit more but heís dancing to the establishments tune.

So if youíre a Democrat I wouldnít worry about this. A significant chunk of Trumps voting base who havenít got their head up his ass have finally given up on him and wonít be voting for him or any republican in 2020. So long as the Democrats donít put forward someone utterly toxic theyíll win easily. Bearing in mind that the demographic that voted for Trump is also dying of old age, opiate overdoses and suicide at unprecedented rates (a cruel statistic but none the less may prove significant given the fine margin that Trump won by).

Given the above I have a strong feeling that Trump wonít be re-elected. In fact if the Democrats play it right like going with someone who has cross over appeal like Andrew Yang it may well be a landslide. But that said I have doubts Yang could get nominated.
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« Reply #14857 on: March 26, 2019, 09:12:42 AM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

Can you please lay out your case for placing the blame on Obama?

Strange one alright. . . Obama inherited a failing economy which needed spending to prop it up. Trump inherited the boom time and decides that rather than the US pay its dues it's party time for rich people to pay as little tax as possible.

But yeah Obama!

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« Reply #14858 on: March 26, 2019, 11:07:20 AM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

Can you please lay out your case for placing the blame on Obama?

Seriously?

Youíre asking him a real question which needs an evidence-based answer?

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« Reply #14859 on: March 26, 2019, 12:47:57 PM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

Can you please lay out your case for placing the blame on Obama?

You must be new here.

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« Reply #14860 on: March 26, 2019, 12:56:38 PM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

Can you please lay out your case for placing the blame on Obama?

The evidence is all there if you want to investigate it, which I'm sure you won't.

Every other president in American history, even the really bad ones, had at least one year when U.S. GDP grew by at least 3 percent.  But this did not happened under Obama even though he has had two terms in the White House.

Obama doubled the national debt from 10 to 20 trillion.




But let's pretend that the economic recovery under Trump is all thanks to that spoofer Obama if it makes the snowflakes feel better.
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« Reply #14861 on: March 26, 2019, 12:58:06 PM »
[Debt is 60% more than in 2008 and the driver is the ratio of debt to GDP.

2008 - When Obama took over and made a balls of it. Place the blame where it should be.

Can you please lay out your case for placing the blame on Obama?

Seriously?

Youíre asking him a real question which needs an evidence-based answer?

So if talking about evidence-based answers will you now admit the Russia collusion charge was a politically motivated hoax?
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« Reply #14862 on: March 26, 2019, 01:27:40 PM »
The bottom line for the Democrats and most television networks is to oust trump no matter how they do it , Rachel Maddow is crying on live tv that there was no collusion and some other clown is saying itís white privilege that got him and his family off the hook , they have been selling a lie for 2 years they should be ashamed of themselves

Were you ashamed of the GOP over the birther stuff, led by the now president and tacitly endorsed all the way to the Speaker at the time?

Were you ashamed by the likes of Jade Helm? Are you ashamed of the GOPís general embrace of ignorance, anti-intellectualism and bigotry?

Are you ashamed of Trump cosying up to men like Alex Jones? David Duke? The refusal to unequivocally condemn white nationalism and racism?

Are you ashamed of Trump palling around with murderous, dictatorial strongmen while basically telling longtime US allies to go f**k themselves?

Are you ashamed of Trump purposely and callously having crying babies torn from their mothers and tossed into the terror of the immigration detention system to try to intimidate other would be illegal immigrants?

Are you ashamed of Trumpís stunningly cynical and appalling record on environmental issues?

Are you ashamed of his utter ignorance on a plethora of issues and his bald-faced lying on even more?

Are you ashamed of his unprecedentedly appalling personal conduct as president? As a human being?

I could go on, but you get the picture. Take your sanctimony elsewhere.
I was talking about the news networks who sold a fake story for 2 years even though they knew it was fake because they didnít want to accept the outcome of the election.
Ease up with the shame bs at least we know what trump is not like 90% of democrats who are well matched with the fake tv networks. Keep swallowing aocs bullshit u deserve each other

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« Reply #14863 on: March 26, 2019, 03:26:59 PM »
This is brilliant. We can all compare results later. Unfortunately Eamonnca1 isn't listed as an option. Boo!!


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« Reply #14864 on: March 26, 2019, 03:38:25 PM »
The bottom line for the Democrats and most television networks is to oust trump no matter how they do it , Rachel Maddow is crying on live tv that there was no collusion and some other clown is saying itís white privilege that got him and his family off the hook , they have been selling a lie for 2 years they should be ashamed of themselves

Were you ashamed of the GOP over the birther stuff, led by the now president and tacitly endorsed all the way to the Speaker at the time?

Were you ashamed by the likes of Jade Helm? Are you ashamed of the GOPís general embrace of ignorance, anti-intellectualism and bigotry?

Are you ashamed of Trump cosying up to men like Alex Jones? David Duke? The refusal to unequivocally condemn white nationalism and racism?

Are you ashamed of Trump palling around with murderous, dictatorial strongmen while basically telling longtime US allies to go f**k themselves?

Are you ashamed of Trump purposely and callously having crying babies torn from their mothers and tossed into the terror of the immigration detention system to try to intimidate other would be illegal immigrants?

Are you ashamed of Trumpís stunningly cynical and appalling record on environmental issues?

Are you ashamed of his utter ignorance on a plethora of issues and his bald-faced lying on even more?

Are you ashamed of his unprecedentedly appalling personal conduct as president? As a human being?

I could go on, but you get the picture. Take your sanctimony elsewhere.
I was talking about the news networks who sold a fake story for 2 years even though they knew it was fake because they didnít want to accept the outcome of the election.
Ease up with the shame bs at least we know what trump is not like 90% of democrats who are well matched with the fake tv networks. Keep swallowing aocs bullshit u deserve each other

Nothing bs about I said. The GOP in general and Trump in particular are promoters extraordinaire of fake news and alternate facts and realities. Itís one of the primary reasons I have little time for them, even if the Dems also suck on certain issues. And Iíve never advocated for AOC on here. If and when I do, feel free to use that against me. Iíll happily debate it.

As for the media, legitimate questions were there to be asked about a demonstrably corrupt and unethical president. Just because Mueller (after all Trumpís attempted tipping of the scale) didnít come up with anything concrete does not mean, after the fact, that the questions should not have been asked. I repeat again, HIS Justice Dept launched the investigation after Trump admitted on national tv that he fired Comey over Russia.

Were you so outraged when Fox and the right wing media went all in for five years on Benghazi and the ten congressional investigations into that? When Kevin McCarthy went on national tv and said they were investigating to try to hamstring Hilaryís presidential run?
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