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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 19, 2019, 03:28:23 PM »
Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

Wont be allowed. Dublin are home team so they always get the Home dressing room and choice of warm up end.

Dog. Bone. Fill the rest in yourself

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 19, 2019, 01:58:01 PM »
Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

the last time that happened was another Connacht team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ByVZsXNWs

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 18, 2019, 01:21:21 PM »
This game should be in Croke Park. That’s the way the ‘Super 8s’ we’re laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.
Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

The decision wasn't taken out of their hands, they have to nominate a venue for the Super 8, Dublin officially nominated Croke Park. How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

It's not a fair competition simply when one team gets to play the vast majority their games at home. Imagine if Liverpool or Man City were told they could play 75% of their games at home, can imagine Pep or Klopp saying it's no real advantage, would they f**k!!!

Btw have Dublin ever looked to get the dimensions changed, have they ever even asked? I suspect Gavin has their training pitches marked out to the exact same dimensions as Croke Park.

The motion last year was to take Dublin's games out of CP, the counties voted to keep them there, who should your gripe be with then?

I'm not denying that it is an advantage, of course it is, only a stupid person would deny that (I'm not one btw), but you're just gonna have to get over yourself.

Dublin fans would gladly travel anywhere, in fact they love it. I got messages from guys when they knew they would have to go to Healy Park who were absolutely champing to get up there, the reception and response they got last year was second to none. Dublin would gladly leave CP, I'm just not sure the other counties and Central Council would want to leave the money behind

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 18, 2019, 12:54:40 PM »
I definitely agree that Dublin should not be playing 2 Super 8 games in Croke Park as it is slightly beneficial to them, but it is an exaggeration to say that both these games in Croke Park are home fixtures. The game this weekend against Roscommon is not a home game. When Dublin played Tyrone away last year, Tyrone decided to alter the pitch dimensions in Healy Park to suit their playing style. Dublin don't have that option this weekend, they have no say in how the pitch is prepared or marked so it is not a home fixture. They also do not have open access to Croke Park for training whenever they want in the run up to this game as Roscommon and Tyrone do when preparing for their home fixtures in Hyde park and Healy park.

+1

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 18, 2019, 12:53:32 PM »
This game should be in Croke Park. That’s the way the ‘Super 8s’ we’re laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.
Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM »
This game should be in Croke Park. That’s the way the ‘Super 8s’ we’re laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.
Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

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General discussion / Re: It Must be Marching Season
« on: July 09, 2019, 09:09:18 AM »
In a past life, while working in Belfast City Council, I had the job of helping sort out bonfire beacons on the 11th night in some not-so-GAA-friendly places. If only they knew who was doing this work for them. Didn't agree with these "community groups" getting funding for these things and events, especially when it was just a front for what really goes on

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cavan v Tyrone - 5pm, Clones, Sat 6th July
« on: July 08, 2019, 10:55:52 AM »

Didn't see what Hartes black card was for,  was it harsh?


Seems like he was pinged for a trip. Similar to his previous black card against Donegal (open to correction on that).

To me Harte's technique is to plant his foot in front of the opposition player then follow with the shoulder charge. Nothing wrong with that unless it's misjudged (timing or speed or movement of attacker) and to the ref it looks like he has deliberately stuck his leg across attacking player and tripping him. Fully expect him to be playing next week.

Not sure how the linesman missed the challenge by McVeety. And a couple of yellows could have been blacks. The Cavan corner back ploughing straight into the Tyrone man on the sideline. Another ref could have deemed Cavanaghs challenge to be a black card.

Normally I would agree with your description of PH's tackling, however on this occasion he lead with the other leg, a clear trip. I thought initially it was a black card, the slow mo on Sunday Game confirmed it. HOWEVER, I think he will still get off the suspension as I think the Longford card will get suppressed.

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General discussion / Re: glastonbury
« on: July 05, 2019, 01:35:41 PM »
He's a dentist from Belfast living in London playing in a band from Bristol.

That's him alright, like his dad

Watched The Cur set last night, the hit songs were brilliant but the other stuff was more for their hardcore fans.

also watched Bastille, thought they were brilliant. Have seen them live here, would definitely go back again

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What the f**k is Donal Og Cusack doing comparing not passing to goalkeepers to British colonial rule??

can you put up his quote please?

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General discussion / Re: glastonbury
« on: July 02, 2019, 04:28:08 PM »
My cousin's son plays lead guitar in The Idles, they played Glastonbury on Saturday i think it was. They're on the iPlayer, clean mad, say they are not punk but they as well be. Fair play to them though

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Armagh- Round 3 Qualifier
« on: June 26, 2019, 09:33:02 AM »
Would like to see us line up like this (assuming Horan isn't going to change tack and suddenly start playing a sweeper or even a semi-sweeper the way McLoughlin used to play)

Clarke
Barrett Harrison EOD
Keegan Plunkett Durcan
AOS DOC
McLoughlin Loftus McDonagh
Moran Coen Carr/Regan
Would like to see us line up like this (assuming Horan isn't going to change tack and suddenly start playing a sweeper or even a semi-sweeper the way McLoughlin used to play)

Clarke
Barrett Harrison EOD
Keegan Plunkett Durcan
AOS DOC
McLoughlin Loftus McDonagh
Moran Coen Carr/Regan
dropping Higgins is a big call?
id leave hime on but encourage hime to attack more . he seemed to be under order not to drive forward as much as normal in newry . which is probably his best asset

Well then don't play him corner back! Corner back's first job should be to stick to his man and not give him an inch.
not at all higgnis at corner back has bee a huge attacking asset for mayo , it very much his unique role not quiet replicated by any other corner back and Mayo not be able to do  a like for like replacement ,
playing forther up the fiel doe not suit him nearly as well as we daw from some of the experiments over the years .
Hes always had the pace to cover back as well, even up to roscommon this year

Did Philly McMahon not score 1-2 in an All-Ireland Final when marking Colm Cooper???? or does he not count?

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GAA Discussion / Re: We need to talk about Diarmuid
« on: June 25, 2019, 08:43:09 AM »
Gone again

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Don't be surprised if this is moved to Sunday

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Maybe we should move Dublin to Connacht for a few years. That should revive the Leinster championship for a while.
If the rest of Leinster had any sense they'd push for Dublin to be rotated among the provinces.

However, they'd be scared they'd lose ticket revenues so wouldn't even consider it for a second (even though attendances for other games would actually increase and a Kildare v Meath Leinster final would probably top what we'll get this weekend)

Ticket revenue? You mean the 10,000 fans you bring to neutral games? You still haven't played an away game in the Leinster championship since 2006 but only bring pathetic numbers around the province. Throwing a strop because the Leinster council had the temerity to make you leave your slums for the day. Even when you're back in your home ground you're not bothering to go anymore. We literally gave you millions but people like you still claim it's the Dubs doing everyone else a favour.

you really are a piece of trash

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