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Laois / Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« on: January 31, 2017, 07:34:21 PM »
A lot of the time it doesn't have to do with underage structures. Maybe it comes down to the fact that maybe they don't have the players. A good footballer doesn't need to be taught he already has it naturally like beano Conway munelly Kingston . Did you ever hear the saying ' you can't turn an ass into a racehorse '

Well in that case,we can give up as coach's,sack the GDA's,dissolve all the juvenile structures because these lads will magically appear.

Jesus wept

Laois / Re: Leinster Minor Football Championship 2017
« on: January 31, 2017, 04:24:57 PM »
Didn't want to start a new thread for this but below is the U15 panel for 2017.

Interesting to see that the likes of Spink can have 4 representatives while the big urban centres of Graigue, Port and Mountmellick have a total of 2 between them (Mountmellick don't have anyone on the panel). In saying that there's only one representative from the entire Arles parish.

The county board really need to have a look at these figures and get coaches into the urban centres. They are not turning out enough younglads of the right standard whether it be skill or attitude. There has to be more than 2 footballers in those 3 areas??

Laois Under-15 Football Panel for 2017 was today named and is as follows:

Oisin Byrne Arles/Killeen
Adam Connolly Ballyfin
Danny Brennan Ballyroan/Abbey
Eoghan Dunne Ballyroan/Abbey
Adam Broady Ballyroan/Abbey
Brian Whelan Ballyroan/Abbey
James McWey Ballyroan/Abbey
Jamie Burke Barrowhouse
Adam Daly Clonaslee
DJ Callaghan Clonaslee
Ciaran Burke Crettyard
Daniel Murphy Graiguecullen
Orrie Doran Killeshin
Jack Brennan Killeshin
David McDonald Killeshin
Rioghan Murphy Portarlington
Ben Brennan Portlaoise
Kevin Swayne Portlaoise
Cormac Dunne Portlaoise
Cian O Shaughnessy Spink
Cathal O Shaughnessy Spink
Mark Kehoe Spink
Jamie Stratford Spink
Nathan Little St Pauls
Sean Greene St Pauls
Paul O Flynn St Pauls
Josh O Brien St Josephs
Jamie Kelly St Josephs
Conor Goode Stradbally
Eamon Delaney Stradbally
Ciaran O Neill Stradbally

With all due respect to the smaller clubs and the effort they're clearly  putting in,  Graigue , Port , Mountmellick and Portlaoise should be providing more than half that panel.  Its no coincidence that we have fallen away so badly at underage level.
 There wont be any happy ending here.

This type of post really gets on my tits,instead of praising the huge work being done by these "unfashionable" clubs and reaping the rewards as evidenced by this panel,you are whining over the likes of graigue and Portlaoise.

The reason why they dont have lads on the panel is obvious......the work isnt being put in at underage level,if Portlaoise put as much time and money into coaching last year as they did in dragging a junior club to the DRA to poach an U16 or effort in tapping up our juveniles they would be much better served.

As for Graigecullen the only title they deserve in underage these past few years is the title of Laois Club which concedes the most juvenile games.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football 2017
« on: January 31, 2017, 03:34:01 PM »
Tipperary have as of this year split their 29 senior hurling teams in two

The top 16 teams play for the county championship,the next 13 can only enter into this competition if they win their divisional championship,2 up 2 down in these divisions.

Kerry,Kilkenny now Tipperary obviously these counties know less than the success story that is Laois.

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: January 28, 2017, 10:48:08 AM »
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Kyle players want it as do Knock and last year the mid tipp board agreed that they could use kyle field for home games but kyle chiefs  went to meetings and very few players didnt turn up and the vote didnt go in favor because of the experts that know best

Well in fairness if the players wanted it that bad,they didn't put in the groundwork to get it over the line,based on what your saying.

Laois / Re: Club transfers
« on: January 28, 2017, 10:06:00 AM »
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?

Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 24, 2017, 09:46:31 PM »
Agree with you completely

The quicker heads are knocked together in Raheen Parish the better for hurling in the parish,hopefully our new juvenile combination will be the start of it

Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 19, 2017, 12:01:11 PM »
How would you split it considering that around the tipp/kilkenny borders there's virtually no football, and there is about 8 football clubs, 7 of which are senior lumped into one corner of the county, you could argue for a north/south split like they do in tipp for football but 4 is too much for the moment at least, as for the senior being split its a good thing i reckon long term, all you have to do is look at the hurling championship which hasnt had a back to back winner in 14/15 years, you will also be creating an unbelievably competitive intermediate championship(which is what it is seeing as the winners play leinster intermediate), ill take my own club as an example probably one of the best up and coming football teams in laois going by underage success etc. If westayed in the top 8 they will be exposed to the absolute top level in the county kind of a sink or swim thing, if they are in the new inter championship they are probably at a level closer to their own but they would have a real chance of winning something. What im saying in a roundabout way is that every club should now have a championship to aim for instead of 9/10 senior teams going through the motions

What they have done in Tipp is interesting in relation to football,Football would be strong to various degrees in the South,West and Mid Divisions,what they have done with the North which would be all Hurling is put in a 9 nine team amalgamation called Thomas McDonoghs which gives the likes of Philip Austin,George Hannigan and Kevin o Halloran the opportunity to play senior club football,when they would be playing junior A at best with their clubs.

From talking to a work colleague in Tipp,there was a strategic football plan put in place by the Tipp county board 15 years ago with the aim of Tipp winning an All Ireland by 2020,their 100th Anniversary of their last win,the county board over there drove that amalgamation and player pathways in the likes of the north division.

Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 18, 2017, 09:08:34 PM »
I'm hearing that Ballinakill are taking in Slieve Margey and Ratheniska Juvenile  Hurlers and that Spink and Ratheniska are amalgamating at Juvenile Football level.
You hear wrong. With respect, I ask that you concentrate on your own matters and stop spreading rumors.

Which ones am I wrong with then?.

Are some of your hurling teams not playing with Ballinakill?,are some of your football teams not amalgamating with Spink?.

Maybe you can clear it up for us?.

Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 18, 2017, 08:34:47 PM »
I used to think certain amalgamations like Ballyfin and Mountmellick at juvenile level etc were a bit unseemly as they are in different parishes. Well 2017 is proving that same parish, neighbouring clubs etc means nothing when it comes to joining up. The county board loosened rules to allow players access to higher level. Its a good idea but needs regulation. TG4 used to have a Western season on saturday nights well Laois GAA are running their own cowboys and indians season for 2017. A pure farce.

I believe that CCC has the right to reject any proposed "merger" that it feels is not appropriate.

I presume this can be appealed as well.

No doubt there will some fun with regrading all juvenile amalgamations also,I expect to see the A grades packed for the coming year

Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 18, 2017, 07:52:48 PM »
I'm hearing that Ballinakill are taking in Slieve Margey and Ratheniska Juvenile  Hurlers and that Spink and Ratheniska are amalgamating at Juvenile Football level.

When's the deadline for all these amalgamations?

Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
« on: January 17, 2017, 08:33:04 PM »
Raheen Parish Gaels hurling together from u6 to minor

Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: January 17, 2017, 11:43:58 AM »
Tommy Doyle is an superb hurler and a big big strong lad he would make beeter county Teams than Westmeath so Foyle probably had his hands full.

Looking forward to the Galway game to see a few of these young lads in action!

He is indeed,Callinan struggled with him in the Railway Cup game.

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: January 16, 2017, 07:35:15 PM »
He still makes a lot of good points though -

1. We haven't enough high quality minor, U-21 and senior hurling teams and could do with a few more amalgamations. 12 really competitive teams would be a good start. Tipp have something like 36.
2. The quality of what is coming up is still not nearly good enough. We had a good spell that produced some nice hurlers but the teams following them have not been great on average. Some massive beatings at Tony Forrestal / Arrabawn competitions are now transferring back up to minor level.

There is probably a link between the number of competitive clubs and the quality of young lads coming through. Divisional teams are good enough for the likes of Cork and Kerry but we could never have them in Laois it seems. Surely a Divisional team that included Trumera, Mountrath, Colt, Shanahoe would be competitive at Senior level and still allow a club ethos at Senior A or Intermediate? Or a Na Fianna senior team? Surely there can be a way to provide incentives to talented young fellas to hurl competitively without losing connection with their club?

Theres 28 senior Teams in Tipp which they are in the process of reducing.There are 70 plus hurling clubs in Tipp,Laois on its own would  be similar to 1 of 4 divisions there

We cant compete with the likes of Cork or Tipp with playing numbers and the reality is our 84k population isnt like hurling mad kk with a pop of 99k.

We need to be smart and allow every talented hurler the opportunity to play at the highest level that he can.

Speaking from my own local perspective,there needs to be 1 senior team in Raheen Parish,if there needs to 2 intermediate teams and 2 junior teams in the parish so be it.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football 2017
« on: January 13, 2017, 08:45:11 AM »
Sounds like the attendance is going to be Yuge!!!

Any of the experts on here care to make a prediction beforehand.

Winner gets a Clonad Jersey (non flammable)

If you cant get a bit of heat out of it what use is it, even your own players will be wearing colt jerseys by the summer

Imagine his reaction if I posted that?! >:( ;D

Lads around here are well used to you at this stage Keyser

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