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Attendances are the metric to watch

Plus TV viewing stats
Sport without competition is a very hard thing to sell
Maybe this year only one match will be of general interest

General discussion / Re: Portrush gets the Open
« on: Today at 01:40:37 PM »

Replying to

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: Today at 01:37:12 PM »
The hurling has the right system. Round robin at the beginning followed by straight knock out games.

The football has this bolted on round robin system at the latter end of the championship.

Hurling has 6-8 teams who could win and a fresh set of semi finalists
every year. Football has one Paris St Germain with a few maybes and the rest straggling
It does not have 8 teams who can compete

GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: Today at 01:34:32 PM »
The Dubs are like a supertrawler scraping the sea floor for fish

Ros is a small boat on Lough Ree

GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: Today at 01:32:00 PM »
What’s the beak even attendance figure for Croke Park?

Did someone mention 30k is needed to break even based on the cost of the event itself.

That figure gets thrown around a lot but it's actually false. If you think about it how could any number like that be accurate when ticket prices vary considerably between games. For example, none of the upper tiers or nally terrace was open yesterday so that's a saving straight away.

When you include corporate boxes and the fact that takings from shops/bars inside all go to the GAA, a crowd in Croke Park is more profitable than a similar one in another county ground. That's why so many games are in Croker.
That's what Peter McKenna once said and I have no reason to disbelieve him. When you factor insurance and maintenance costs in  and that only a percentage of the bar/fast food  etc. takings goes to the GAA, the  apparent profits shrink considerably.

Yes but every ground has insurance and maintenance costs. Having a double header in Croker is considerably cheaper than opening up 2 provincial grounds.
Attention focuses on the unfairness of the Dubs playing in Porky Crokey but if you look
at it from the point of view of the spreadsheet jockeys at HQ the GAA
need the revenues . They do not care about the product.

The All Ireland at this stage is a revenue Ponzi scheme

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: Today at 01:28:05 PM »
The Longford Football Championship is again more interesting than the All
Ireland inter county championship

Go bhfóire Dia orainn

GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: Today at 01:08:15 AM »
Just home from this away game.
Weary, depressed, disappointed for the lads but it was amateur boys against professional men.
Hard to know where we go from here, how many lads will have the appetite to slog it out over the winter again.
Some one said we've put a 2 tier Championship to bed.
We've probably made the case for a 3 or 4 tier championship when you think we're better than 24vir 25 if the teams out there.

It doesn’t matter how much Ros improve. The championship is rigged
It would be no different if PSG played in the League of Ireland

GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 20, 2019, 08:35:39 PM »
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Probably start cutting the funding to the rest of the county.

A stat I saw earlier

Dublin have won 8 of the last 11 Leinster U21/20 football titles and 4 out of the last 9 All-Ireland U21/U20 football titles (they're joint favourites to win the All-Ireland this year as well).
They won 7 Leinster titles and no All-Ireland in the previous 45 years.
That’s because of the Dublin development panels. Which get zero funding from the Games Developmet funds. The GDOs have zero interaction with the Dublin elite players.
And the peak  of Mount Everest just hangs in the air.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 20, 2019, 08:15:46 PM »
The GAA won’t stop funding Dublin absent a collapse in attendances
Bring it on .
They do not care about competition and they deserve it

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: July 19, 2019, 09:41:50 PM »
He’s being murdered on the anti-semitic stuff though as well as his lack of conviction on anything brexit related.

The AS stuff started in 2014 after miliband announced support for Palestine e
Israel is trying to protect the Occupation. Zionism usually operates behind the scenes so this
is v unusual.


I wish people who call Corbyn antisemitic would have the balls to say he is therefore a racist. They won’t, as this would make them even more ludicrous than they are now appearing.

Chuka Umunna's Flip Flops



 has been a non-stop anti-Corbyn hatchet job for the last 10 minutes. The way they're talking, you'd think 50% of Labour members were antisemitic. It's 0.06% you t**ts. Why are you not mentioning that? Because if you did, viewers would wonder what all the fuss was about.

Jonathan Cook


A troubling expose of significant conflicts of interest for the equality commission's leadership that may have influenced the decision to single out the Labour party, and not include the Tories or Ukip, for an investigation into antisemitism

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: July 19, 2019, 07:56:21 PM »
Corbyn is a huge threat to the powers that be because he wants to reboot the economy

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: July 19, 2019, 12:43:56 PM »
Jeremy Corbyn's high point of his leadership of the British Labour Party was in the aftermath of the 2017 General Election. The problem is that he has pretty much pissed away all goodwill from that point on mainly because of his prolonged sitting-on-the-fence concerning what moves to make regarding Brexit. Even some his closer allied MPs like Diane Abbott and John McDonnell are starting to quietly shift away from Corbyn because apart from the Momentum cheerleaders, he's quite unpopular with the public in general.

YouGov have a regular survey asking who would make the better PM, the PM or the leader of the opposition. In the last survey a month ago, May was ahead of Corbyn by 12 percentage points - though the real winner by a clear margin was "dunno".

In the linked PDF above, it shows that Corbyn's best head to head results were the two surveys after the last GE on 8th June 2017. Since then it's been going slowly downhill for him. May has been more consistent, until her numbers took a pummelling close to the original date for Brexit on 29th March 2019. When you consider everything that has gone on concerning how pathetic May has been since her snap General Election tactic backfired, Corbyn being utterly impotent to be able to take advantage of an almost open goal has shown he's not a capable leader of a major political party. Say what you want about Tony Blair, but he would have had eaten alive  most of the Tories over several breakfasts by this stage.

Polls are useless in times of extreme volatility because chaos is very difficult for a herd of people to understand.

The mantra from many Corbyn supporters ever since he was elected leader of the UK Labour party has been to rubbish any polling that doesn't show him in a good light - except the few that have actually shown him being competitive. Saying that polls since May became PM are useless is a cop out unless you can show that the methodology in conducting the polling is flawed.

Under his leadership, Labour have had two notable "blips" against expected forecasts - one was the 2017 General Election, the one May very much threw away what looked like the Tories getting a 100+ seat majority when it was announced, to where a few days before the poll the gap narrowed to where there was potential talk of May no longer having a majority in the Commons, or at least no better than what she had. The second one was in the recent by-election in Peterborough - the one where all the stars were aligning to give the Brexit Party its first MP, where the day before polling they were between 1/8 and 1/12 to win the seat. And they got pipped at the end. In the former, May's utter ineptitude to be a strong communicator coupled with a micromanaged campaign trail cost the Tories to end up having to do a confidence & supply deal with the DUP. Labour did better than expected, and celebrated like they won - but they were still in opposition and had no chance of forming a coalition themselves, the only victory being a moral one akin to Kinnock in 1987. In the latter, it was a combination of a large block of party activists whom descended on the constituency in the last two days before polling, coupled with a targeted vote by "remainers" to try and ensure the BXP did not win. A notable reversal from the EU elections where Labour's share of the vote went down 10 percentage points.

Even outside of issues like Brexit, Corbyn's leadership has been less than stellar, seeing several of his MPs break away, his handling of alleged Anti-Semetic attitudes within the party, reports of a toxic attitude within the parliamentary party mentioned by several MPs (fingers being pointed by Seamus Miline) etc. While plenty of this has been likely exaggerated by the usual fag-ends of the right-wing media in Britain, his ability to both handle such issues mentioned above and the way he's taken decisive action or not (like the Alistair Campbell expulsion) has shown him up as being little more than a common trope of modern left-wing politics in Britain, a politician of protest, but not a politician of governance. Corbyn is in his element standing at a particular base on the backbenches fighting on points of principle and being an eternal campaigner, but as a party leader whom has to try and bring along all factions together to battle as one, he's been useless.

And the thing is, there is quite a bit that Corbyn has stood for, for a long time, that is actually popular with the general British public. However the same right-wing media I mentioned above have done an excellent job that no matter what policies you might find popular, having them being attached to a certain party, party wing or politician will stop it dead in its tracks. There are popular ideas of having the likes of water, electric, rail networks etc. in public ownership hands, but will not vote for a Labour party, especially one that is being led from the party's left.

And the BIG problem right now is the man that is leading the party. Corbyn has pissed away goodwill from floating "Remain" voters whom were willing to give him a chance to shine even after giving lacklustre support to remaining in the EU in the 2016 referendum. And he's done nothing on that other than continuously gather splinters on his arse. A new labour party leader could have political views that, other than being a firm remainer, would largely chime with those of Corbyn and could help bring the right-leaning end of the Labour party at least into a ceasefire of sorts to put up a united front.

The fact is, Jeremy Corbyn has as much chance of becoming British Prime Minister now or in the future, as Foghorn Leghorn has of becoming the next James Bond. The longer he leads the Labour party, the more time that'll be needed to repair the party's image with the voting public, if it can be repaired at all.

The Tories haven''t collapsed yet. Labour are on 29%

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