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GAA Discussion / Re: Underdogs- Tasty
« on: September 13, 2019, 04:43:34 PM »
Interesting to see Israel Illunga on the 30 man panel. He's played Under age with Westmeath and maybe O Byrne Cup.
He's hardly far off  the full Senior panel..

He's a long way off it at this stage I'd say. Stood out a mile at underage due to his physicality.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 13, 2019, 09:31:37 AM »
Kerry/Cork have split munster titles since god knows when, but where is the ridicule for the munster championship or is it accepted munster has been rubish forever so it somehow doesn't count.
Munster apart from Kerry is Hurley country so it doesn't matter.
Only issue there is will Kerry get 100 Football Titles before Cork get 50.
10 of Leinster's 12 are football counties.

Only if you discount non-GAA sports

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If OWC were to qualify would they more than likely get a couple of the Aviva based games?

Only if they were drawn in the Dublin-Bilbao group (group E). Spain will definitely be there, so only 2/3 spots left in that group, depending on whether Ireland qualify or not. There is no group that you could say for sure that both host nations will qualify.

Group A: Rome and Baku
Group B: Saint Petersburg and Copenhagen
Group C: Amsterdam and Bucharest
Group D: London and Glasgow
Group E: Bilbao and Dublin
Group F: Munich and Budapest

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: September 06, 2019, 02:07:06 PM »
Have been enjoying Ireland under McCarthy. O'Neill had us in such a low place. Things had to freshen up!

We are not Brazil, but the guts and effort is back!

Agree. The standard of football last night was awful, yet I still thoroughly enjoyed the game. It's the weakest pool of players available in my lifetime (I'm older than any of the Ireland players!), yet they are still competitive due to collective effort and organisation. If they qualify with this group of players it will be fantastic, and bridge the gap nicely to what looks like a promising next generation of players.
If they get 3 points in Georgia (far from a guarantee), then 2 draws against Swiss and Danes will do the trick, provided there is a winner when those two teams play each other. If Denmark win in Geneva, then we could have a situation in the last game where Denmark and Ireland are both happy to draw with one another. Although a long way to go before that.

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: September 03, 2019, 01:36:13 PM »
there are rumours that walsh is out and rochford is in. but it's all speculation at the moment. if walsh leaves, he will have been more or less pushed

Would that be seen as a step up? not sure how Rochford has built up such a reputation. Added little to Donegal this year and won nothing with Mayo

All Ireland Club winner and very highly thought of by players.

Big difference between winning the club All Ireland with one of the greatest club sides of all time and county management. Just dont rate him that highly at all. Donegal seemed to have gone back this year with him involved and his time at Mayo was a failure hasnt even a provincial title over his three years. Galway would be much better off going with a local.

That's up to Galway, but if you win an All Ireland Club in a county, your going to have a good reputation in that county to live off for awhile. Lest we forget he suffered some serious bad luck on the biggest one of them all. He arguably was in charge of the best team to lose the AI.

He basically lost Mayo an All Ireland by changing his goal keeper for the final which was one of the stupidiest pieces of management the game has ever seen.  Also his record in connaght to not win one in three attempts is a very poor record and dont give me this shite of they were'nt targetting them. No Mayo team goes out to lose to Galway.
Anyway with Walsh gone i think it would be a step back for Galway to appoint Stephen

It's possible they would have won if they had stuck with Clarke. It's also possible they would have lost by more than the solitary point they did lose by. There is no way of knowing.
The one thing for sure is it was not the Mayo management's fault that the selected goalkeeper dropped a ball under absolutely no pressure. Nobody could have foreseen that.
Rochford made a brave call again the following year with O'Shea at full back. They won (after a replay). They may have won by more had he not done so. We will never know.
What we do know is that many players that have played under Rochford think he is an excellent coach/manager.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ladies football
« on: August 26, 2019, 02:30:07 PM »
Thought the ref was very good on the steps rule. He called it consistently on both sides. Compared to how often players get away with it in the men's game.

It's essential that it's called correctly in the ladies game, as the only way to dispossess (or even slow down) the ball carrier is to flick the ball mid solo or hop. Of course it should me called more often in men's game too, but the consequences of not doing so are not as extreme.

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General discussion / Re: Movie reccomendations
« on: August 22, 2019, 09:42:25 AM »
Saw 'Once Upon a Time...." last night.
Can absolutely understand why many people won't like it. As stated above, the story line is rather thin, even though it is loosely based on a true story.
It is extremely slick, and the acting is superb. It definitely dragged at times, mostly while developing Di Caprio's character. Last 30 mins was excellent, and wasn't what I expected.
Overall, it won't be remembered in the top 50% of his films.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:26:30 AM »
Totally disagree that he is a good referee. Like the vast majority of the top referees Gough will believe that the day revolves around him and that the players are bit part players supporting his central role.

I once played in a game that he reffed. In my opinion he was excellent. He communicated with the players throughout and we knew exactly where we stood with him. He seemed to know every player's first name, even though we were a club team from a different county. We lost the game.

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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: August 14, 2019, 08:44:13 AM »
Disappointed Glenn didn't get it but never a realistic proposition with the current county board especially with the Chairman seemingly looking for an extension.

Serious management appointment all the same. It will be a challenge more on the mental side as I do believe we have talented footballers. Interesting times.

Will Ross Glavin and Anthony Rainbow be selectors? Rainbow supposed to be stepping down from Boden when finish up in championship.

Would make sense for Glavin to get involved, from his perspective. He is so young that he doesn't need to jump in to any managerial job for the sake of it, and would learn lots with none of the pressure of being manager.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kevin-mcstay-no-hiding-from-mayo-s-many-mistakes-against-dublin-1.3984163


The more I look at these big games, one measurement jumps out at me increasingly: the attacks-to-shots-to-scores measurement. In many ways, the modern metric revolves around accuracy: how many of your shots are flying over the bar? We saw it with Tyrone on Sunday: when the shots stop going over the bar, things grind to a halt. But interestingly, Dublin had 37 attacks. Mayo had 34. Then you drill further down down: Dublin got 26 shots away and Mayo got 24 shots. Again, no great disparity. But of those totals, Dublin were successful with 17 and Mayo just 11. It was 65 per cent against 46 per cent in terms of accuracy. And 65 is quite low by Dublin standards: they are often in the high 70s or low 80s.
I was interested in their game management after Lee Keegan’s goal. I noticed that they there was a signal given and they went into a hand-passing drill back and forth to take the sting out of the game after that score.

Any bit of rebellion that Mayo may have had was drained out by this couple of minutes of patient recycling. This was only the 52nd minute. The 12 points in 12 minutes is over: they have the game won and they can control the tempo and just see it out. They were not about to get sucked into one of those helter-skelter closing finishes with which Mayo nearly caught them before"

Was that the time when the Dublin defence had the ball and an arm/fist was raised? This was replicated by someone else out the field

Yeah it was Cooper. I wondered about that at the time.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 12, 2019, 02:47:13 PM »
I also think he's maybe a better hurler. His movement, pace etc are phenomenal in both sports. Performance enhancing drugs won't coach that intelligence of movement.

It's a bit of a radical conclusion to come to that because someone has bulked up a lot they're juiced up. The guy is a phenomenal talent. He's also at a young age where he probably has only started hitting the weights hard the last year or two and it's not like he was small to begin with.

Exactly. Con is one player that would have come though no matter where he was from. If his father had stayed in Mullingar then he’d be full forward for Westmeath now and be just as good. Albeit he’d be winning Div 3 medals instead of all-Ireland’s.
I thought he was Athlone?

Heard a comment that if he'd stayed, it would have been 2 All Irelands for Garrycastle in football rather than 2 for Cuala in hurling! But maybe someone was confused...

Pretty sure Mullingar, but not certain.  Con’s Grandfather was Westmeath county board chairman at one stage (late 60’s I think), while working as an army officer in Columb Barracks in Mullingar.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 12, 2019, 11:59:45 AM »
taken out of context as per , forget what you think of Conor loftus as a footballer (I am of the opinion he can kick a ball as good as any in the country ) , my point is Conor came on the senior county scene with a savage goal v Derry in 2017 to save our blushes , played really well v Kerry in semi in 17. Two years on he's the same skinny young fella as in 17 where as o Callaghan has blown up to a machine who can shrug lee Keegan off like an annoying fly on him. Surely you can see my point , the Dublin set up is so much more advanced than ours.

Mayo had Barry Solan overseeing their S&C under Rochford. If 1 player has not developed then it could be down to a number of reasons, but I guarantee you Mayo’s S&C set up is excellent. You can’t  force a guy to do the work, eat the right food, etc. The vast majority of the Mayo team are in top class physical condition.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 12, 2019, 11:33:37 AM »
I also think he's maybe a better hurler. His movement, pace etc are phenomenal in both sports. Performance enhancing drugs won't coach that intelligence of movement.

It's a bit of a radical conclusion to come to that because someone has bulked up a lot they're juiced up. The guy is a phenomenal talent. He's also at a young age where he probably has only started hitting the weights hard the last year or two and it's not like he was small to begin with.

Exactly. Con is one player that would have come though no matter where he was from. If his father had stayed in Mullingar then he’d be full forward for Westmeath now and be just as good. Albeit he’d be winning Div 3 medals instead of all-Ireland’s.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 12, 2019, 10:56:36 AM »
Fook sake lads!
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Of course there are morons who think that doing proper weights can't build muscle mass, and some of them post here.

Fair enough , I just wish mayo players would start the same programme as con o Callaghan so. Absolutely no difference in football skills in half dozen mayo forwards and o Callaghan but s&c difference between him and someone like Conor loftus is off the scale

Get real. It was obvious O'Callaghan was going to be a top class player when he was 17. There is years of quality conditioning in the Mayo players. Loftus is hardly a fair comparison with O'Callaghan skill wise.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Highest individual score in one match
« on: August 08, 2019, 01:59:42 PM »
Oisin 2-7, Stevie McDonnell 3-4, Canavan 0-11, McGuigan 0-11...

How about this:

Down’s Niamh Mallon scored 3-18 v Wexford in the Intermediate Camogie championship last weekend.

Can anyone beat that?

Am I right in saying John heslin scored 2.18 in a Westmeath club championship game a couple of years ago. He also scored 3.9 in another game. Doesn’t beat Niamh but very impressive nonetheless.

Just 2-16. What was most impressive was that it was in the championship semi final, against Garrycastle who were only 18 months on from being in the all-Ireland final. And his second goal was deep in injury time to win it by 1 point.

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