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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 19, 2019, 07:57:53 PM »
Because Mayo were still a developing side back in 2012.  Furthermore, they had lost their ace forward, Andy Moran in the quarter final against Down and he was the most valuable player on the team.. no question about that. Leading up to the final, Alan Dillon was reported doubtful because he had a dose of flu and was only passed fit to play just before the game. Aidan O'Shea was injured during training and it certainly affected his game.
To cap it all Mayo's kamikaze characteristics were there to be seen when they let in two of the softest goals you will ever see on AI day.
However, the following year with the added experience and a full side they knocked the stuffing out of Donegal.

 ;D Do you even realise how pathetic all of this sounds? I would love to hear a response from a Donegal man. Nothing but excuses for every Mayo defeat.  I wasn't a bit surprised that the Mayo fans turned to targeting Con O'Callaghan after the semi final and accusing him of using drugs because they couldn't accept the reality that he made a fool out of Keegan.
Well, you asked a loaded question and I gave you an answer. I did not and will not make excuses. I went out of my way to rubbish claims that C re b toon was on steroids and there was no Mayo posters
link g up to a cause him of this either. You are programmed to find fault with anything Mayo posters have to say and logic has no part in you makeup.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 19, 2019, 01:29:29 PM »
Or having a reliable cool headed goalkeeper and not missing free kicks in consecutive finals
Absolutely!

There has never been a moment where Dublin were going to lose any of the games circa 2013-2017. There may have been the illusion. But it was only that. Full credit to the Dublin GAA and to headquarters for getting the full package and more out of their resources.

It will be a proud moment for GAA President John Horan next Sunday when he hands over the Sam!

Jimmy McGuinness and Donegal might disagree with about the dubs being unbeatable in 2014 and never looking like losing. Even with Dublin gone Mayo couldn't win the All Ireland, but I suppose that was to do with funding as well ::)

Mayo were knocked out of the 2014 championship before Dublin.

My point is why didn't Mayo win the all Ireland without the Dubs in it?  You keep moaing about the dubs, but they were gone that year and Mayo still didn't win it.
Because Mayo were still a developing side back in 2012.  Furthermore, they had lost their ace forward, Andy Moran in the quarter final against Down and he was the most valuable player on the team.. no question about that. Leading up to the final, Alan Dillon was reported doubtful because he had a dose of flu and was only passed fit to play just before the game. Aidan O'Shea was injured during training and it certainly affected his game.
To cap it all Mayo's kamikaze characteristics were there to be seen when they let in two of the softest goals you will ever see on AI day.
However, the following year with the added experience and a full side they knocked the stuffing out of Donegal.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 18, 2019, 06:26:37 PM »
I think in another time they would won 2 or 3 All-Irelands. Your judgI've seen enough of both and I don't imagine thayt th present team is better. g them against a team beat only 2 in 9yrs and once was to them. And Donegal were nearly blew outta the water if Dublin had taken 2 easy goal chances. Dublin would beat any other team of any era in my opinion.
That is something we will never know.Great fun discussing/rowing about such topics but there are too many variables involved . For instance, if, somehow, you could come up with a time machine and send the present Dubs back to the late 70s, would they beat Heffo's Heroes?
Better still, if the the present team hadn't the benefits of physiologists, nutritionists, personal trainers and individually tailored fitness and diet regimes, would they match up to John McCarthy and Jimmy Keaveney and the others ?
Heffo's training standards might have been revolutionary back then but a Div 4 side today would run around them in terms of conditioning and psychological fine tuning, for the want of a more appropriate term. If you took away the props that today's team enjoys and put them up against Heffo's side or , say, Micko's Kerry of the same era, I wouldn't honestly be prepared to bet on the outcome.
Still, I think I'd go with the teams of the 70s, purely because football back then was filthy.
Check this out!..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9VY7BKKCw
Them were men back then!
They'd knock the stuffing out of any one around today.
(That is, if you have a ref from that time also. Today's reffs would have the whole effin' 30 of them sidelined before half time.)

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GAA Discussion / Re: Who will you be shouting for and why?
« on: August 15, 2019, 10:46:03 PM »
Personally, I will be shouting for Dublin - I want their continued domination to force change.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: August 13, 2019, 10:47:36 PM »
The question is rather what are you smoking, as you've either not read the article fully or because you've completely misunderstood the point he is, controversially, trying to make.

He's not questioning their commitment as footballers. He's referring to a mercenary element within the mayo panel who have knifed two management teams in the last few years. He may not be unbiased but he's not wrong about some of the power struggles that have gone on in mayo and how they have held the team back.
But he is questioning their commitment to the cause! According to Brolly, some of them are not men but he fails to elaborate in this or mention the individuals he thinks are mercenaries or indicate the number involved.
 but doesn't  go into detail to explain what he meant with his catchall insinuations and unproven allegations. Ergo,the whole Goddamn lot are not 100% committed to Mayo's cause.You may have attended a different school of logic than I did but I fail to see how any reasonable person will arrive at a different conclusion than I have.
Furthermore,he's wrong about Stephen Rochford's departure.
A number of influential backers put it to the County Board that they were not prepared to provide further sponshorship as long as he remained in charge.
If Brolly had bothered to do some research before he shot his mouth off,he'd have found that what I am telling you is well-known in Mayo- it was mentioned here some time ago.
It was also fairly well-documented that the players after having a meeting where they decided to get rid of Holmes and Connelly did not go public as they did not want to embarrass or humiliate either. They approached the County Board and told the officers of their decision and someone leaked this to the media.
It left H&C with no option but to stand down. Everyone involved got hurt in the process. What the players intended doing was to give their managers a chance to step down with dignity, citing pressures of work or family commitments or whatever. Again, this was fairly common knowledge at the time of the meeting and the result.Tommy Conlon in the Sindo covered this quite well and what he has found out was there for Brolly if he wanted to be an objective commentator.
If that wasn't bad enough, he let fly with an off the wall allegation that players were drafting James Horan's resignation letter but , once again, he failed to back this up in any way.
I have a strong dislike for Brolly and the reason goes back to an Ulster final where Monaghan were playing. Brolly was co-commentating . Tommy Freeman, Monaghan's ace forward works as a roofer and the week before the final he had an accident at work where he put a nail tough his hand. He still played with a heavily strapped hand and Brolly couldn't stop passing snide remarks and found it very funny that Monaghan's free taker couldn't stick a Hilti nail in a sheet of felt, never mind converting a free.
He kept the wisecracks going right up to the end and tried to involve O'Rourke and Carney ( I think) but neither responded at any time.
 In my humble opinion he is beneath  contempt.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 12, 2019, 02:01:57 PM »
Hard luck Mayo, 10 minutes Blitz was all that was required in the end. Dublin only scored 1-02, the same as Mayo, outside this period in the 2nd half. Unfair on Mayo to come into this match with a 1 week break.

No real sympathy for Mayo overall, always nice keeping them down.

Is Horan's 70k a year worth it?
Especiaslly when Jim Gavin is only volunteers his timet to the cause. 

As fo O'Connor, if that was Connolly, imagine, just imagine the social and mainstream outrage, i will say no more but he should be off the panel, too much baggage, cant be trusted.
Where did you hear this? First I have heard about it. Can't disagree with you about O'Connor. Unfortunately,he has earned himself a hard man's reputation and I honestly think he does believe in getting his retaliation in first a lot of the time. Contrast that with Aidan O'Shea. He gets more abuse, verbal and physical than any other I can think of but he can be compared with O'Connor in this regard.
It's a pity but that's the way I see it; he has earned a bad reputation and isn't likely to get the benefit of the doubt from most referees.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 12, 2019, 11:57:19 AM »
Can anyone tell me what paper or whatever does Aidan O'Rourke write for?
Just seen a clip on RTE New Now where he says Mayo got almost everything right last day.
That's news to me and I'd like to take a lot at his article or blog or wherever he posts his work.
Incidentally, I think it's daft to even think Con is on gear.
I couldn't imagine that Jim Gavin would tolerate such behaviour by anybody on his panel and I don't think Con would consider jeopardising his career  or his health by taking shortcuts to bulking up. Given the facilities at his disposal, he didn't need drugs to get him to where he is.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 11, 2019, 06:29:41 PM »
Yesterday was the swan song of a brave Mayo team. While you have to sympathise with their older players who have served tirelessly for over a decade, the real sympathy is due to their huge band of loyal supporters who continue to follow the team - always with optimism only to be finally disappointed again and again.

Well done Dublin for a devastating second half. But remember it's only a semi-final. All the work has yet to be done.

Not sure what to make of your opening paragraph tbh. Sarcasometer must be in overdrive is the first thing that came to mind. It's hard to see the mainstays staying on for another year to receive another trimming. I suppose we did get a league title from them, but it could have been much, much more. If it was 10 years previous, if Hennelly hadn't have flapped in 2013, if the 2 own goals hadn't gone in in 2016, if Vaughan hadn't stupidly got himself sent off in 2017.

But we didn't and we won't either now unfortunately for a long, long time.  :(
I wouldn't be that pessimistic, Farr, not by a long shot. There are structures in place now that weren't there when James Horan first took over that should help with the development of underage football for the foreseeable future. Fundraising and facilities come to mind as well as the underage coaching and development seems to be far better organised than heretofore.
Some of the older present players may decide to retire but I bet you will be able to count the number on one hand. These lads are not quitters and I can't see that changing because of on bad result. I don''t think we could have expected to win yesterday even if we didn't have such a long list of injuries but the players will decide in their own good time if yesterday represented all they have to give.
They say history is written by the victors and that is true in the case of yesterday's result. There are bucks getting paid to waffle who wrote today that Dublin were only holding back in the first half and knew all along they had only to move up a gear to blow Mayo away. I bet those chancers had a different script penned by half time that they conveniently scrapped when the final whistle had blown.
Unreserved credit due to Dublin, they never panicked and were never going to lose their concentration or change their game plan. I felt even at half time that it would be nothing short of a miracle if Mayo still led by the end. But the long and the short of it is that their punishing schedule and the number of key players who were crocked did have an effect on their second half display. It might only have made a couple of points of a difference in the end. I dunno and never will but I didn't see anyone throwing in the towel either.
If the young lads coming through follow the example set by the great men who went before them, there will be a seamless transition- Mayo won't be going away any time soon.
Too many of the lads werestarting to look shagged well before half time.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 10, 2019, 08:29:10 PM »
Kilkenny won 7 titles in 8 years (took a two year break and then won another three in a row) and people didn't complain in the hurling world. Lets get realistic - Mayo spend nearly as much on county teams as Dublin do but don't have a serious hurling team to pay for.

See that's a load of crap. The reason Mayo spend more is they play more games through back door, have to travel to New York or London and have mileage to pay players as they don't all study or work in Mayo. The reality is Dublin spend more as a County Board than any other county at a proportionally higher level.

The reason no one complained about Kilkenny was because hurling people felt it was a relatively even playing field - they weren't getting multiples more funding than other counties, a serious chunk of their players were travelling hours to and from training, they weren't playing the overwhelming majority of their games at home, they didn't have an overwhelming population advantage.
All that and more....
In 2007, the Kilkenny CB was so stuck for cash that the players had to fund-raise to pay for a continental holiday. They picked one Sunday and after mass every one of the AI winners had to stand outside the gates with a white plastic bucket cadging loose change from the mass goers.(or should that be mass leavers?)
Can't see Dublin players having to do the same anytime soon.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 10, 2019, 03:38:00 PM »
Obviously fancy the dubs to win but reckon this could be another mayo cracker. Hopefully it's more mayo V Donegal than mayo V Kerry. Dublin have pretty much had a 3 week break compared to mayo one and that's the key here.

Would love mayo to do it but just can't see it.

It's a no brainer and unfortunately makes Dublin's ultimate achievement flawed, through no fault of their own.

It's shameful scheduling. I know everybody is all hyped up about this game because of recent history blah, blah blah. That's nice but the reality is that it is a load of bollocks. It is impossible for Dublin to lose this. If both teams went in in same conditions, Dublin would still win in all probability. Mayo would have a punchers chance though. Tomorrow Mayo have no chance.

Well if Mayo had won the Connacht championship they wouldn't have these issues
That's beside the point entirely.
Fact is that any team in the championships could have wound up in the same position.
Same goes for Dublin who have had a two week break and played fewer games. Can't blame Dublin for this in any way but whoever drew up the format didn't give the matter any thought. Players are amateurs and have to have to think of work or study commitments also so asking anyone to play high-intensity games week after week shows no consideration for their physical  safety.You can add in their mental condition as well.
There is also the probability that you can get c**k ups like the Tyrone Dublin farce  where fans have to spend serious money on tickets, travelling expenses and programmes etc., apart from demeaning the integrity of the competition  where both teams can afford  not to take a game seriously.
The sooner the Super 8s are binned, the better for all concerned.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 08, 2019, 09:56:29 PM »
I've no problem with rooting for Dublin for the final if somehow they manage to beat us.
I have spent my working life working in the capital and I've lots of friends who are true blue GAA folk.
I don't hold the Dubs responsible for the mess the Gah is in and I suppose any other county would do the same and hog everything that they could claim. If other counties have issues about development grants it's up to the counties in question to kick up hell because nobody is in the habit of doling out money unless they have to.
Anyway, I don't think JH and his men are too hung up about any perceived funding bias right now. I'd say they can't wait for the throw in and if they can't stop the Dubs in their tracks, nobody else would be able to do it either.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Donegal, Elverys McHale Park, Aug 03, 6pm
« on: August 05, 2019, 06:03:12 PM »
Out of curiosity - whats the WJblog?
a pile of dog poop with a good stats section , run by a guy who rarely goes to matches and spoils the other wise fime Mayo news Gaa podcast
I fell out with him a long time ago because of you!
Way back when he started the blog, he was using some foulmouthed language- okay for a pub or maybe a dressing room but not, IMO, for a public blog.. For instance and this was sometime after the '96 games against Meath, he referred to Colm Coyle as a sneaky little ****. I only heard of his blog though this board so I paid it a visit and I found he was going gung ho about some Mayo posters on here.
Seems he had criticized some Mayo player for not trying hard enough and some Mitchels supporters here complained on this board that he was being unfair to the lad in question because he didn't like Mitchels.
This first blog I came across was a full scale attack on the cowardliness of some anonymous Mayo posters who dared to criticise him but who weren't brave enough to come on to his blog and say their piece.
So I decided to come onto his blog and have a bit of fun. Beofre I did, you had posted something here saying you were surprised at his attitude or something like that- nothing remotely offensive. His reaction was priceless. He started off, "So another nameless brave hero lops another bomb over the parapet. Listen you guys, you better smarten up because when I get home, I'll sort you cowardly lot out." (He was on hols in North Africa, I think.)
So I decided to let him know everybody here wasn't afraid to go onto his Micky Mouse excuse for a Mayo fans blog when he was only using it as a mouthpiece for his oversize ego and I told him his language wasn't what a normal adult would need to get his message across.
He let my first post stay up but he certainly didn't leave my second one!
I see he has cleaned up his act and I do think his reference section is priceless but I have never read through his comments as I gave up reading the first one I looked at after two or three posts.

He had an awful opinion of himself in the early days- unbelievable self-importance and couldn't tolerate any criticism of himself or what he wrote.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Donegal, Elverys McHale Park, Aug 03, 6pm
« on: August 04, 2019, 03:02:09 PM »
Watched the game again last night and for me me David Gough had a good game in difficult circumstances and does not deserve the slating he is getting over on the WJ blog and in some comments here.  Keegan grabbed Murphys jersey and that is what the ref saw from his position on the field.On the Higgins black card Gough did consult with his umpire and does not have replays .Not sure how he missed the pickup from O Shea  but maybe he was unsighted.Always hate the fact that after 5 min of any game the first comment is that the ref is brutal or riding one team despite evidence to the contrary
I'd agree with you. I can't see any ref at any time setting out to favourr one team over another. Yeah, he can make mistakes and Gough, with the benefit of hindsight, made a fair few but he was operating in real time and on the night we had in Caatlebar, it;s a wonder he didn't make a few more.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Donegal, Elverys McHale Park, Aug 03, 6pm
« on: August 02, 2019, 02:30:24 PM »
On my way to Castlebar now and stuff the begrudgers!
Beginning to get that revved up feeling... can't be fully confident though until Farr predicts the mother of all hammerings for us. :D
C'mon Farr..give us a break and go for broke!

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GAA Discussion / Re: This weekends predictions
« on: August 02, 2019, 12:10:22 AM »
Mayo v Donegal - Draw
Kerry v Meath - Kerry by 6
Dublin v Tyrone - Dublin by 8
Cork v Roscommon - Cork by 7

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