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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2019
« on: April 17, 2019, 02:16:44 PM »
Down in Newry is never easy, theyíre rebuilding and Armagh are probably a bit ahead of them in terms of development. That said nothing is a foregone conclusion and canít take anything for granted.

As for the enigmatic Jamie Clarke, id certainly be a bit miffed if I was a fein. Is there something underlying or whatís the story that he can commit to the county team but canít strip out for three Sundays in April for the club? Usually the other way round in Cross lol

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GAA Discussion / Re: Laochra Gael - Stevie McDonnell
« on: April 10, 2019, 04:02:04 PM »
Why armagh only won the one is one of the great mysteries, second only to why Mayo won none

The back door killed Armagh. If it had not been invented until 2006, Armagh would have seen a few more titles.

Quite possibly true. The extra games tested the squad and when it came to it the depth if the Armagh squad was not quite as deep as some others. Armagh is a small county with the most populated area - Craigavon / Lurgan/ Portadown providing very few county GAA players.
Hmm, I read somewhere there were 29 clubs represented in 02. Quite a big North Armagh representation in fact Craigavon Portadown and Lurgan were all represented. Also depending on whether you class Ballyhegan and Annaghmore as Portadown thereís 7 men from the proddy end of the county.

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General discussion / Re: Derry Girls - Channel 4
« on: April 10, 2019, 03:37:27 PM »
Considering itís aimed at a UK audience I doubt they gave too much consideration to the accents. The wee girl from Galway actually isnít too bad. As for that list by screenexile, it doesnít even have the inbetweeners and is therefore null and void

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General discussion / Re: ATM Thefts
« on: April 08, 2019, 07:03:51 PM »
Dye on the money is the way forward.
There was an expert on the radio at lunchtime today and he implied there might be dye on the money and some of the robbers would get nothing. They should announce that there was invisible dye on the money and put the frightners on the robbers and dissuade copy cat robberies.
Thereís a guy on Twitter, self described security consultant & surveillance/intelligence specialist. Seems to suggest the ones behind it are three gangs all based along the border. Curious to know how dye would work on new plastic notes?

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General discussion / Re: Bygones
« on: April 03, 2019, 09:42:42 AM »
Brits casually walking up through your garden/road/street

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General discussion / Re: Kerbsy, Kerby or Cribby?
« on: March 28, 2019, 08:08:23 PM »
Kerbsie. A crib is something you stick on your hall table at Christmas

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 27, 2019, 09:39:27 AM »
Social media benefits outweigh the negatives in my view, but stuff like this just seems to cause people to jump on the grief bandwagon and then plaster it all over their profile.

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Fcuk me lads are yis really outraged at that??
Iím not outraged, nor am I shocked. Itís just f**king annoying at this stage.

Windsor Park itself might be sanitised and there has been a lot of work done by the IFA to eradicate sectarianism but the reality is the NI team is supported by Loyalists who are inherently sectarian by their nature. So there will always be that sizeable minority of bigots who when the cameras arenít rolling (or at least when they think they arenít) that just canít help themselves. You donít even have to scratch beneath the surface to find them.  I read about someone on the 212 bus to Derry and they were singing the usual repertoire of Rangers party songs, the bus driver had to tell them to f**k up. Likewise during the Euros I was working late getting the train home and I had to endure the same shite from Portadownís loyal sons

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General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:45:53 PM »
Honestly the most logical conclusion I can come to is that they accidentally overdosed her on sedatives and hid the body. Too much doesnít add up.

I haven't watched the documentary as yet - where did that theory originate from, Portuguese police in the original investigation ?
The nutjob Portuguese detective who claimed all the brits and M15 were in on the conspiracy now earning a fortune with his book and appearances.
Of all the possible scenarios, that one is up there with alien abductions. There's no motive and no opportunity.
Both parents, acting out of panic cover up an accidental death? plus one/two/ all the others in on it? "I say ol chap we're in a bit of pickle could you help us out right now with Maddie and dump her outside?"
Then they all go down and have a dinner party, knocking back wine by the bottle until 10pm.
Yeah but itís two idiots who left their three young children unattended in a hotel room every night  in a foreign country while they went away and got drunk with their friends. That it in itself is a pretty unbelievable scenario but thatís what happened.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:29:47 PM »
While I think itís a bit early to be apportioning blame I donít think you can really compare what happened at Hillsborough to what happened in Cookstown. This incident was caused by young people shoving and pushing, and the chances are some if not all of them were drunk. See the young girls Facebook post which has gone viral.

Iím not denying lack of security was a factor.

I see you're changing your angle now. The fact in your original post you choose to pick out the children pushing from the first hand account on facebook and not that there was a lack of support from any of the security staff says to me you where shifting blame away from the hotel security to the children involved and therefore denying lack of security. If half the rumours (which I wont post for obvious reasons) I have heard about what security where up to when this was going on are true.... I hope the idiots on hear blaming children front up and apologise.
It is literally the first thing that the girl mentions. She goes onto say that people continued to laugh and push while she screamed at the top of her lungs for them to stop. I donít have an ďangleĒ; there are a range of people who are/could be responsible. That could range from the door staff, the hotel owner, the H&S officers at mid Ulster council, the bus hire companies to the wee c***ts at the back who continued to push. The three young people who lost their lives are totally blameless. Itís a tragedy and obviously one that should have been avoided. Hopefully the families of the deceased get answers as to why this was allowed to happen.

I am liking how your posts are evolving.... opposed to your first post which strangely left out a lot of key details.

Your right its the first thing she mentioned as it was the first thing that happened..... And it shouldn't have happened but had there been appropriate security it would have ended right there and then and then this thread about drinking wouldn't have started!

It is a matter of opinion but the biggest issue and the biggest point this girl was making was the lack of help and the fact that the children had to sort it out themselves in the end. The last paragraph is powerful and I think it is left until the end for a reason.
Maybe because my original response was to you making ridiculous comparisons to Hillsborough. Nothing strange about that. Thereís still more to come from this (if your rumours are to be believed) and maybe some of us (including myself) should stop posting on the topic for while.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:01:42 PM »
While I think itís a bit early to be apportioning blame I donít think you can really compare what happened at Hillsborough to what happened in Cookstown. This incident was caused by young people shoving and pushing, and the chances are some if not all of them were drunk. See the young girls Facebook post which has gone viral.

Iím not denying lack of security was a factor.

I see you're changing your angle now. The fact in your original post you choose to pick out the children pushing from the first hand account on facebook and not that there was a lack of support from any of the security staff says to me you where shifting blame away from the hotel security to the children involved and therefore denying lack of security. If half the rumours (which I wont post for obvious reasons) I have heard about what security where up to when this was going on are true.... I hope the idiots on hear blaming children front up and apologise.
It is literally the first thing that the girl mentions. She goes onto say that people continued to laugh and push while she screamed at the top of her lungs for them to stop. I donít have an ďangleĒ; there are a range of people who are/could be responsible. That could range from the door staff, the hotel owner, the H&S officers at mid Ulster council, the bus hire companies to the wee c***ts at the back who continued to push. The three young people who lost their lives are totally blameless. Itís a tragedy and obviously one that should have been avoided. Hopefully the families of the deceased get answers as to why this was allowed to happen.

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General discussion / Re: Maddie McCann
« on: March 20, 2019, 12:51:22 PM »
Honestly the most logical conclusion I can come to is that they accidentally overdosed her on sedatives and hid the body. Too much doesnít add up.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 12:48:46 PM »
Kid drinking would have a lot to do with it.  Gross negligence may be the cause or may not, but its as likely that the cause was those who were pushing the crowd forward for what they probably thought was a bit of craic.

There's alot of nervous teenagers knowing full well what they did, waiting on a knock on the door.

I don't understand this train of thought.... in fact I think its disgusting/disgraceful. This is the type of rhetoric that was coming from the Sun news paper after the hillsborough disaster:

'drunken fans'
'people pushing at the back new they where killing people'

These children have been let down .... end of.

I know Mickey McElhatton to be a nice man and will be heartbroken about this... in my opinion he has been let down by his door staff.
While I think itís a bit early to be apportioning blame I donít think you can really compare what happened at Hillsborough to what happened in Cookstown. This incident was caused by young people shoving and pushing, and the chances are some if not all of them were drunk. See the young girls Facebook post which has gone viral.

The incident was cause by lack of security at an event. see the young girls facebook post.... it was the children who where trying to save the lives of other children.

So your saying all children where drunk?? including the victims?
Iím not denying lack of security was a factor. Please re-read what I said, the ones pushing and shoving most likely had drink taken. We were all that age once and not many have a button of sense when youíre airlocked at 16/17 years of age. Iíve been in secnarios like that at nightclubs when I was younger,  even in school where youíve a big group and pushing and shoving takes place in a confined space. Obviously the last thing that crosses their mind is that it might cause serious injury or a fatality. The same way it doesnít cross the mind of a 16/17 year old when they take the parents yock out for a spin and write the car off injuring or killing their mates.

While I think itís a bit early to be apportioning blame I donít think you can really compare what happened at Hillsborough to what happened in Cookstown. This incident was caused by young people shoving and pushing, and the chances are some if not all of them were drunk. See the young girls Facebook post which has gone viral.

Why can this not be compared to Hillsborough and if it can't why are all media outlets getting Phil Scratons views on it. He was very definitive on what the questions need to be asked and he doesn't mention the children being the problem.

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2019/03/19/news/phil-scraton-says-questions-will-be-asked-in-the-coming-days-about-crowd-safety-1576011/

"In all situations involving people going out for a night out there is a responsibility to put their safety to the forefront,"
Well you can go and compare the two all you want, Iíd argue that the failings at Hillsborough were a lot more explicit from the outset than what happened over the weekend not too mention completely different circumstances. Theyíre maybe getting his views because heís a leading academic on crowd control, does not mention Hillsborough anywhere else other than to say his work led him to be involved with the independent panel investigating it.


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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:17:17 AM »
Kid drinking would have a lot to do with it.  Gross negligence may be the cause or may not, but its as likely that the cause was those who were pushing the crowd forward for what they probably thought was a bit of craic.

There's alot of nervous teenagers knowing full well what they did, waiting on a knock on the door.

I don't understand this train of thought.... in fact I think its disgusting/disgraceful. This is the type of rhetoric that was coming from the Sun news paper after the hillsborough disaster:

'drunken fans'
'people pushing at the back new they where killing people'

These children have been let down .... end of.

I know Mickey McElhatton to be a nice man and will be heartbroken about this... in my opinion he has been let down by his door staff.
While I think itís a bit early to be apportioning blame I donít think you can really compare what happened at Hillsborough to what happened in Cookstown. This incident was caused by young people shoving and pushing, and the chances are some if not all of them were drunk. See the young girls Facebook post which has gone viral.

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General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 19, 2019, 05:55:46 PM »
Two men arrested on suspicion of corporate manslaughter

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