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Title: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 21, 2016, 10:49:26 AM
As requested and probably long overdue.

Battle of the b**tard's was pretty epic I thought.

Very good interview with the director here.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/19/game-thrones-battle-director

He's also doing next week's episode.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 10:54:33 AM
Great episode.

Think GRRM is a bit of a feminist with Sansa, Yara, Dany, Brienne, Cersai becoming the strongest characters and leaders of their tribes as such.

Are we assuming Sansa sort of double crossed Jon to get an advantage for the Knights Of The Vale coming in late so that she could save the day.

I must say I hated Ramsey and fair play to the lad that played him. Sold it perfectly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 21, 2016, 11:10:53 AM
I wouldn't say she double crossed Jon, she obviously knew they needed a plan B and knew she would have to make a sacrifice (maybe marriage to Little Finger) and just waited to see how the battle evolved. She's definitely grown darker and that smile at the end was a little chilling.

Jon didn't come across as a greater leader in this episode, he let his emotions rule the head and they would have lost the battle because of it. Assume his role going forward now though is to rally troops for the battle North of the Wall.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 21, 2016, 12:38:33 PM
Probably the best episode of the show for me.  Definitely the best battle scene.  I thought it was so well shot.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on June 21, 2016, 12:53:34 PM
Best episode of a programme I've ever seen .. This season has been brilliant


Ramsey got what he deserved but he was an fantastic character and the fella acting him was brilliant , hope to see him in many more things ..

Hondur and the giant dead ..  :'( 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 01:00:54 PM
Best episode of a programme I've ever seen .. This season has been brilliant


Ramsey got what he deserved but he was an fantastic character and the fella acting him was brilliant , hope to see him in many more things ..

Hondur and the giant dead ..  :'(

One giant died holding the door the other died smashing a door down. Makes you think.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ziggysego on June 21, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Fantastic episode and to think 3 fire breathing dragons wasn't even the highlight of the episode! The battle was brilliant, in acting, editing and sound. Ramsey the b**tard got what he deserved and I'm glad it was Sansa that dealt his final faith. I do feel as well, there was been a power shift between Jon and Sansa, as it was ultimately her that won the battle.

Also, Daenerys and Yara huh...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 21, 2016, 03:27:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months)

Iwan Rheon was excellent.  I thought he playe dthe role so well.  Game of Thrones has thrown up some great characters that we all love to hate.  Theon, Joffrey, Ramsey... who next? Euron Greyjoy maybe
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Billys Boots on June 21, 2016, 03:33:34 PM
Probably the best episode of the show for me.  Definitely the best battle scene.  I thought it was so well shot.

I still think the white walkers battle last season made more of an impression - there wasn't much in it though. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months)

Iwan Rheon was excellent.  I thought he playe dthe role so well.  Game of Thrones has thrown up some great characters that we all love to hate.  Theon, Joffrey, Ramsey... who next? Euron Greyjoy maybe

Sansa. She is turning evil. Ramsey has infected her and made her into a right wrong one.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 04:26:58 PM
Best episode of a TV show? Ffs, calm the bap. Battle of Blackwater, Red Wedding, Mountain and Viper, Battle of Castle Black when Ygritte died all far better episodes

This series has been very up and down with a lot of inconsistency, probably as a result of not having completed source material to adapt for the screen for the first time.

GRRM a feminist? With all the rape and prostitution and domestic violence? Really?

Ghost should have killed Ramsay, not his own dogs. Would have been a better angle - the Starks back in Winterfell with their direwolves.

Are we allowed discuss things from the books in this thread? E.g. Jon Snow's future (and past) and what that might mean for the "power shift" Ziggy was on about?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 04:37:41 PM



Bound to see the conclusion to The Tower Of Joy scene in the next episode.

Do you think its the TV guys driving the female surge to the top? I don't. Think thats GRRM's vision. Girl power overcome all the early raping etc to rise above it etc etc.
He also sees himself as Sam. So no doubt he will have a huge influence at some stage.

The end is near.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
Of course it's the TV guys - in the books it's not Sansa who is married to Ramsay. She's still firmly in the Vale. Yara (Asha in the books) also has a completely different angle in the books and isn't off stealing ships and meeting queens.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on June 21, 2016, 04:57:53 PM
Nah no discussion of the books , hate reading and don't want anything spoiled ..


And how does one calm their baps ?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 05:10:29 PM
The title of the thread says "spoilers" in it. That's plenty of stuff that has been indicated and hinted at, both in the books and in the show, that hasn't been explicitly called out in either. I think discussion and speculation is fine.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 06:43:37 PM
As do I. He wilder the theories the better. I do think that there has defiantly been a change in shock value since they no longer have the book to follow- afeared now of fan uproar
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 21, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
Great show and last night was excellent. The battle scenes were reminiscent of the battle scenes in Braveheart I thought. Snow definitely showing that he is a great rally leader but his softness is a weakness, Sansa definitely harder and clearly is getting into bed in more ways than one with Little Finger. Bolton was a great character and your man acted his ass off with him. Also the likelihood of a lesbian coupling between the Mother of Dragons and the Iron Island lass is inevitable. Really looking forward to the final show next week!!

On a side note, in a recent house clearance I found some old books from my teenage years, I came across a first edition hardback of the first book. It's in mint condition and worth between £300 and £500. I gonna see if I can pick the other 3 initial first editions as a complete set is worth up to £5k!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 08:28:09 PM
Hopefully the other half of the Tower of Joy scene is this week and were finally get confirmation of who Jon's parents are and perhaps what it might mean for the future.

Also think Cersei, Tommen or both are doomed as Cersei inevitably f**ks up her wildfire plan.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: heffo on June 21, 2016, 10:48:06 PM
Best episode yet - brilliant stuff
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 21, 2016, 11:30:48 PM
If anyone of you are podcasters I'd highly recommend Bald move. They do three podcasts a week on GoT (as well as lots of other tv series). They do an instant take (20-30mins) directly after the show airs and on Tuesday evenings they release a breakdown of the episode that doesn't contain book spoilers. On Friday they have a spoiler edition that contains theories based on GRRM's source material. An excellent listen if you've time to tune in.

Personally, Battle of the b**tards was my favourite episode of the lot. The Red Wedding didn't hit me as hard as I'm a book reader so knew it was coming. I have thoroughly enjoyed this season apart from the ending of Arya's story in Bravos. No way does she take those gut shots and carry on as she does.

My theory are that Cersei will lose her trial and unleash the wildfire to destroy Baelors Sept. She will take everyone she can, including Tommen (don't forget she would have taken her own kids lives at the end of the battle of Blackwater before Tywin showed up).

Varys will be in Dorne negotiating a safe landing spot for Danerys (Dorne are still loyal to Targareyns). Kings Landing will be bucked due to Cersei and it'll be a case of all paths leading to the north for an epic battle with the WWs.

Three dragons to be mounted by three Targareyens: Danerys, John and Tyrion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 21, 2016, 11:33:35 PM
Sansa cost her brother his life. I guess Bran is the only remaining Stark male at this stage?

Sansa knew the shit, Rickon was dead as soon as the 'pink letter' arrived at Castle Black. John was responsible for a shitload of deaths with his suicide mission causing all their pre battle plans to be tossed out the window.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Over the Bar on June 22, 2016, 12:06:54 AM
I preferred GoTs earlier series which left you WTF just happened. Since Jon Snow came back things take a more predictable turn.  Ramsey was always going to be a mere sideshow villain  and Sansa  & Jon Snow were always going to win that battle.  Most predictable of all was Ramsey being fed to his own dogs after losing Winterfell.  Series 6 a huge disappointment thus far.   

Hopefully when it ends eventually Denarys isn't Queen of the 7 kingdoms and the wildlings to defeat the Whitewalkers!  That would be utter boke!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2016, 06:59:54 AM
I don't think there will be seven kingdoms to rule at the end of it.

Really now, the direction the show has to go is clear. It's ice vs fire, with the fire meaning dragons. That means they have to engineer Dany forgetting about conquest to head north and similarly figure out plot devices to get the other two dragons mounted. Jon looks to be an obvious one as suggested above and perhaps Tyrion, although the evidence is less convincing.

All the guff and nonsense happening in King's Landing and whatever Euron tries to do are just distractions from the main plot.

I agree that the series has gone downhill and was particularly annoyed about how badly written Arya's entire time in Braavos was, especially her escape, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2016, 07:02:25 AM

On a side note, in a recent house clearance I found some old books from my teenage years, I came across a first edition hardback of the first book. It's in mint condition and worth between £300 and £500. I gonna see if I can pick the other 3 initial first editions as a complete set is worth up to £5k!!!

First book was published in 1996. Who are you trying to kid with this "teenager" lark?!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 22, 2016, 09:22:45 AM
If anyone of you are podcasters I'd highly recommend Bald move. They do three podcasts a week on GoT (as well as lots of other tv series). They do an instant take (20-30mins) directly after the show airs and on Tuesday evenings they release a breakdown of the episode that doesn't contain book spoilers. On Friday they have a spoiler edition that contains theories based on GRRM's source material. An excellent listen if you've time to tune in.

Personally, Battle of the b**tards was my favourite episode of the lot. The Red Wedding didn't hit me as hard as I'm a book reader so knew it was coming. I have thoroughly enjoyed this season apart from the ending of Arya's story in Bravos. No way does she take those gut shots and carry on as she does.

My theory are that Cersei will lose her trial and unleash the wildfire to destroy Baelors Sept. She will take everyone she can, including Tommen (don't forget she would have taken her own kids lives at the end of the battle of Blackwater before Tywin showed up).

Varys will be in Dorne negotiating a safe landing spot for Danerys (Dorne are still loyal to Targareyns). Kings Landing will be bucked due to Cersei and it'll be a case of all paths leading to the north for an epic battle with the WWs.

Three dragons to be mounted by three Targareyens: Danerys, John and Tyrion.

I listen to A Cast Of Kings as a GOT podcast.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on June 22, 2016, 09:26:12 AM
Rikon should have Zig Zagged everyone knows when you having arrows shot at you to do that.

Jon Snow is thick as shit solo charging the Boltons

Wun Wun should have been armored up and given a big tree trunk or something he'd have defeated the Boltons near on his own.

I always thought the Fire and Ice dimension was becuase Jon Sno was both Fire and Ice, stark and Targaryen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 22, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Why can't every just get along.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on June 22, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the third dragon rider will be Tyrion as he is apparently of Targaryen blood.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 22, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Brienne will turn out to be The Princess That Was Promised.

Anyone read Dunk and Egg? She is obvious a descendant of Dunk.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2016, 06:33:55 PM
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the third dragon rider will be Tyrion as he is apparently of Targaryen blood.

Plenty to suggest otherwise as well. Jon and Dany are certs, the third one is debatable.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on June 22, 2016, 07:08:00 PM
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the third dragon rider will be Tyrion as he is apparently of Targaryen blood.

Plenty to suggest otherwise as well. Jon and Dany are certs, the third one is debatable.

I think it's going to be Tyrion as well. The time he went in to the place Dany locked up the dragons in, would be a good indicator as he didn't get burnt to a crisp.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: bcarrier on June 22, 2016, 11:14:34 PM
Bran is the important stark.

Check out the asoif reddit or free folk reddit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 23, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
In the books the Mad King claimed first night wedding rights with Johanna Lannister (Tywin's wife) so there is plenty of scope for Tyrion to be a Targaryen thus being a good candidate for a dragon rider.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnneycool on June 23, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
In the books the Mad King claimed first night wedding rights with Johanna Lannister (Tywin's wife) so there is plenty of scope for Tyrion to be a Targaryen thus being a good candidate for a dragon rider.

The tower of Joy thing, we're supposed to believe that Jon was born to Lyanna Stark who died giving birth to him, the Da being Rhaegar Targaryen, Tyrions ma also died giving birth to him as did Dany's, so there's a lot in common along with those horny Targaryen's..

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 23, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
What's the craic with Gendry?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 23, 2016, 01:28:27 PM
What's the craic with Gendry?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Longshanks on June 23, 2016, 01:43:19 PM
What's the craic with Gendry?

I know its random to say the least, hell just get him back to have him murdered or something, put an end to it.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 23, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
I assume the show is done with him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on June 23, 2016, 04:35:43 PM
Jeez I forgot all about him, he might have a part to play yet as he's the only person with Baratheon blood left
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 27, 2016, 07:46:38 AM
Very good episode, some very dodgy CGI aside. Didn't think Cersei would get rid of quite so many and there was something poetic about her, for once, executing her plan to perfection and still losing. Tommen played an absolute blinder. I don't like how they keep retrofitting book events onto other characters - little birds killing Pycelle instead of Kevan.

Minas Tirith, sorry, Oldtown was suitably impressive, although I can't say I'm looking forward to scenes of Sam studying away. Maybe we'll get a college comedy type thing going on. Sam, a few other trainees, few kegs and some hookers.

Think the Dornish angle might be interesting. With the Queen of Thorns, it should hopefully counteract the awfulness of the Sand Snakes and rescue the good bits of the Dorne plot from the books. Don't think they needed to take this bizarre route and kill Doran, but it is what it is. Given Varys' words of "fire and blood", I wonder if a Dorne/Dany alliance will be a fact in the books as well.

Turned out not to be Red Wedding 2.0 but a jolly good feast altogether. Arya's coldness was thoroughly enjoyable. I think Cersei and the Mountain are the only two left on her list (Hound too I guess but I can't see that happening) so hopefully she makes her way to KL rather than head north.

Surprised to see Littlefinger actually voice his ambition. Ruler of the ashes indeed.

I was surprised how unfulfilling the Tower of Joy scene was given that we've known it for so long. I was half expecting a "his name is Jon" line from Lyanna to really spell it out to anyone who still refuses to get it. Nowy Tends.

None of the above matters though, because this is all Lyanna Mormont's show now. Boss.

Wasn't expecting a coronation of Jon at all. That'll prove a very interesting dynamic between him and Littlefinger.

Not quite sure where Qyburn's authority to enthrone Cersei comes from, what army she has to keep her there or why the people who have been exposed to everything she's done would simply accept it. A bit daft really.

Nice armada scene. About f**king time. However, how and and why the f**k was Varys back on that boat? Nice to see he has a teleporter like Arya and Littlefinger.

Very strong end to a very average season and finally a bit of pace injected.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Linkbox on June 27, 2016, 11:58:00 PM
Varys was on the boat as there was Tyrell and Martell flags shown in the armada. Must be ganging up with them after he spoke to Olenna. She was great as usual.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Linkbox on June 28, 2016, 12:10:35 AM
This guy does great videos as well. Been keeping me going all season - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O6PZx5KlIA
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 28, 2016, 12:56:03 PM
quality episode again.  a lot of the stuff you could see was coming.  The only surprising scene was Tommen's exit, and possibly Arya's appearance.  Didnt take her long to travel either.

You would have to assume that the blackfish is not dead as that's twice his death has been discussed and a death that we did not witness.  It's not like the game of thrones team to leave out a nice death scene.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spo
Post by: Syferus on June 29, 2016, 09:46:50 AM
The Blackfish is definitely dead. Probably the only arc that fell flat this year.

I don't see Jon having any interest going south like Robb. His biggest threat might be Sansa, who will clearly have a decision to make to betray her big bro or understand what it means to be Stark. I'm hopeful she'll make the right choice.

Lannisters might as well be gone from the map, they're fucked. Jaime to be the one to kill the Mad Queen.

Series will end with some sort of GOT version of the Avengers, Jon, Daeny, Tyrion, Bran, maybe Brienne/Jaime dealing with the invading zombies. Ironically the White Walkers have always been by far the most generic, weakest least interesting through-line in the whole series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spo
Post by: nrico2006 on June 29, 2016, 10:25:07 AM
The Blackfish is definitely dead. Propably the only arc that fell flat this year.

I don't see Jon having any interest going south like Robb. His biggest threat might be Sansa, who will clearly have a decision to make to betray her big bro or understand what it means to be Stark. I'm hopeful she'll make the right choice.

Lannisters might as well be gone from the map, they're fucked. Jaime to be the one to kill the Mad Queen.

Series will end with some sort of GOT version of the Avengers, Jon, Daeny, Tyrion, Bran, maybe Brienne/Jaime dealing with the invading zombies. Ironically the White Walkers have always been by far the most generic, weakest least interesting through-line in the whole series.

The only candidates for killing Cersei are her brothers or Arya, but I would put my money on Jaime.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 29, 2016, 10:33:05 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on June 29, 2016, 11:17:57 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 29, 2016, 06:18:09 PM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.

I'm pretty certain Valanqar means little brother than little sibling.

The exact prophecy leads me to believe that Jaimie will choke her to death early in the next season when he finds out the truth of what happened whilst he was taking Riverrun.

The excerpt below is taken from the GoT wiki pages:

But the last part of the prophecy is the most intriguing. It is the part that tells of Cersei’s final demise: “When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
The word “Valonqar” means “little brother” in Valyrian. At first glance, “little brother” could refer to Tyrion, who certainly fits the phrase. Tyrion is on a boat with Daenerys, ready to aid the Queen of Dragons in dethroning his sweet sister.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ziggysego on June 29, 2016, 11:18:15 PM
The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

Unfortunately it was announced today that he has no part in Season 7. Pity.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 30, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

Unfortunately it was announced today that he has no part in Season 7. Pity.

That's a shame, those last two episodes blew me away.

Btw, looking snazzy on the front cover of Omagh Today, Ziggy!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on June 30, 2016, 08:21:58 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.

I'm pretty certain Valanqar means little brother than little sibling.

The exact prophecy leads me to believe that Jaimie will choke her to death early in the next season when he finds out the truth of what happened whilst he was taking Riverrun.

The excerpt below is taken from the GoT wiki pages:

But the last part of the prophecy is the most intriguing. It is the part that tells of Cersei’s final demise: “When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
The word “Valonqar” means “little brother” in Valyrian. At first glance, “little brother” could refer to Tyrion, who certainly fits the phrase. Tyrion is on a boat with Daenerys, ready to aid the Queen of Dragons in dethroning his sweet sister.


I would put my money on it being Jaime, especially after the ending the other night.  Also speculation it could be Arya, who kills Jaime and does the deed using Jaime's face.

I've read a few articles like the one below that speculate that the 'Valonqar' can be intereted as a little sibling and also be genderless, but going with the actual propechy in the season 5 flashback, I'm near sure that Maggy specifically said 'He'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2016, 08:30:33 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.

I'm pretty certain Valanqar means little brother than little sibling.

The exact prophecy leads me to believe that Jaimie will choke her to death early in the next season when he finds out the truth of what happened whilst he was taking Riverrun.

The excerpt below is taken from the GoT wiki pages:

But the last part of the prophecy is the most intriguing. It is the part that tells of Cersei’s final demise: “When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
The word “Valonqar” means “little brother” in Valyrian. At first glance, “little brother” could refer to Tyrion, who certainly fits the phrase. Tyrion is on a boat with Daenerys, ready to aid the Queen of Dragons in dethroning his sweet sister.


I would put my money on it being Jaime, especially after the ending the other night.  Also speculation it could be Arya, who kills Jaime and does the deed using Jaime's face.

I've read a few articles like the one below that speculate that the 'Valonqar' can be intereted as a little sibling and also be genderless, but going with the actual propechy in the season 5 flashback, I'm near sure that Maggy specifically said 'He'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/)

Jaime killed the Mad King when he was going to blow up King's Landing with wildfire. He'll be the one to kill the Mad Queen.
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Post by: leenie on July 10, 2016, 07:16:17 PM
Why do the lannisters have such big beds?

Cause if you pushed twins together you make a king
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Post by: lurganblue on July 18, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless.  Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 03:34:45 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless.  Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

He wasn't the first musician to appear in the show..
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Post by: gawa316 on July 18, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless.  Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

Yeah read he went there to see if he could get healed. Stannis's wee doll was cured so it can been done.
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Post by: JoG2 on July 18, 2017, 03:41:35 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen
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Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!
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Post by: lurganblue on July 18, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Game of thrones is hardly a series that can be accused of lacking big events throughout?
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Post by: JoG2 on July 18, 2017, 03:51:27 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Game of thrones is hardly a series that can be accused of lacking big events throughout?

I enjoy it, but it's being fairly dragged out...it's been building to the war of wars over the throne 70+ episodes now.
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Post by: nrico2006 on July 18, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
So what way do people think it will pan out, i.e. will there be a big war to sort out who rules the 7 kingdoms in this season and then the focus in the last season being on the war between the living and dead?  Or will both stories just run side by side and get sorted out at the end of next season.
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Post by: stew on July 18, 2017, 04:53:39 PM
One of the dragons will get killed and go to the dark side, little Lannister will sit on the thrown and defeat the army of the dead at next seasons end.
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 05:52:02 PM
So what way do people think it will pan out, i.e. will there be a big war to sort out who rules the 7 kingdoms in this season and then the focus in the last season being on the war between the living and dead?  Or will both stories just run side by side and get sorted out at the end of next season.

Jon and Daeny unite, realise they're related, f**k up the White Walkers (by far the weakest part of the series) and Bran helps out by controlling one of the dragons and laying waste to the undead plot vehicles.

Cersei gets crushed, either by Arya, Jaime (the way it should happen IMHO) or the united forces of everyone they've fucked over. The two Cleganes may fight, but I honestly have little interest in that unlike some on the internet.

They're teasing tension between Jon and Sansa but if she were to betray him it would undo all the hard work they've done for the last seven or eight years building her character. It would be incredibly cheap and monumentally stupid IMHO.

We can assume the whole thing ends with Daeny on the Iron Throne, maybe married to Jon in the fine tradition of their family.

I think the broad strokes of what will happen are obvious at this stage.
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Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2017, 10:46:31 PM
If all is revealed to the realm rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.
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Post by: ziggysego on July 18, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!

Not really, the television series has now surpassed the books, so no longer has a source to base their scripts on.

That been said, I enjoyed it last night. Merely setting up the chess pieces for S7 and maybe S8. Only 13 episodes left to go.
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 10:55:05 PM
If all is revealed to the team rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.

A b**tard wouldn't have a better claim than a legitimate child of the last king. Jon's mother and Daeny's brother weren't exactly married..
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Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
If all is revealed to the team rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.

A b**tard wouldn't have a better claim than a legitimate child of the last king. Jon's mother and Daeny's brother weren't exactly married..

Were they not? Keep watching.

It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!

Not really, the television series has now surpassed the books, so no longer has a source to base their scripts on.

That been said, I enjoyed it last night. Merely setting up the chess pieces for S7 and maybe S8. Only 13 episodes left to go.

Martin has given them the story -they're not just making everything up as they go along.
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
If all is revealed to the team rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.

A b**tard wouldn't have a better claim than a legitimate child of the last king. Jon's mother and Daeny's brother weren't exactly married..

Were they not? Keep watching.

It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!

Not really, the television series has now surpassed the books, so no longer has a source to base their scripts on.

That been said, I enjoyed it last night. Merely setting up the chess pieces for S7 and maybe S8. Only 13 episodes left to go.

Martin has given them the story -they're not just making everything up as they go along.

Rhaegar was already married..
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Post by: gallsman on July 19, 2017, 06:02:11 AM
So?
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Post by: dclane on July 19, 2017, 07:54:15 AM
One of the dragons will get killed and go to the dark side, little Lannister will sit on the thrown and defeat the army of the dead at next seasons end.
Christ, how do people watch this shite.
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Post by: nrico2006 on July 19, 2017, 08:30:22 AM
I suppose the big question is who will ride the 3 dragons?  Jon, Khaleesi and who?  Tyrion or Bran?

As for Jon's parentage, who all actually knows?  Just Bran and your man Reed?  Is he expected to be in the show in this season or the next?

As for the Mountain fighting the Hound, I think that potential fight lost its prestige when you saw the Hound getting wailed by a woman. 

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Post by: gallsman on July 19, 2017, 08:33:31 AM
I suppose the big question is who will ride the 3 dragons?  Jon, Khaleesi and who?  Tyrion or Bran?

As for Jon's parentage, who all actually knows?  Just Bran and your man Reed?  Is he expected to be in the show in this season or the next?

Bran, Howland Reed (Martin has said he will appear in the books but don't know about the show) and presumably Meera as well.

I reckon we might get the first hint of things when Jon and Danny meet for the first time and the dragons are "friendly" towards him.
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Post by: johnneycool on July 24, 2017, 04:21:51 PM
I suppose the big question is who will ride the 3 dragons?  Jon, Khaleesi and who?  Tyrion or Bran?

As for Jon's parentage, who all actually knows?  Just Bran and your man Reed?  Is he expected to be in the show in this season or the next?

Bran, Howland Reed (Martin has said he will appear in the books but don't know about the show) and presumably Meera as well.

I reckon we might get the first hint of things when Jon and Danny meet for the first time and the dragons are "friendly" towards him.

Their mothers all died giving birth to them, Tyrion, Jon and Danerys.

Jon's and Danerys ones are well known but it also turns out that Aerys II Targaryen was knocking off Lady Lannister under the nose of Tywin Lannister hence his late arrival at the battle of the trident and him being Aerys II's hand.

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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on July 24, 2017, 10:43:58 PM
Those sand snakes turned out to be pretty sh1te in the end
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Post by: gallsman on July 24, 2017, 11:43:09 PM
Those sand snakes turned out to be pretty sh1te in the end

They absolutely butchered the Dorne storyline in the show. Much better in the books.

The Alerts/Joanna Lannister theory has always only been insinuated rather then proven. They were apparently some antics from Aerys during the bedding ceremony at Tywin and Joanna's wedding.
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Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2017, 08:36:55 AM
Those sand snakes turned out to be pretty sh1te in the end

Nice Bangers though!
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Post by: nrico2006 on July 25, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
The super hot one is still alive though.  Your doll from Hollyoaks was unreal last night, this show has the best talent of any show ever.
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Post by: screenexile on July 25, 2017, 09:20:46 AM
The super hot one is still alive though.  Your doll from Hollyoaks was unreal last night, this show has the best talent of any show ever.

RULE 1!!!!


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Post by: screenexile on July 31, 2017, 03:08:53 PM
Enjoyed that episode immensely!!!

" He really was a **** wasn't he? "
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Post by: An Watcher on July 31, 2017, 10:28:06 PM
Yes great episode and great show.  Never totally sure about what is going on or who the characters are but enjoying it all the same
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Post by: JoG2 on August 01, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
Yes great episode and great show.  Never totally sure about what is going on or who the characters are but enjoying it all the same

same here, good watch though. The scene with Cersei (thanks google) and the mother / daughter down in the dungeon was tight going
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Post by: screenexile on August 01, 2017, 10:26:12 AM
Yes great episode and great show.  Never totally sure about what is going on or who the characters are but enjoying it all the same

same here, good watch though. The scene with Cersei (thanks google) and the mother / daughter down in the dungeon was tight going

It's mental you'd have to constantly rewatch every series each year to stay on top of what' happening and what went before. I vaguely remember Robb Stark's tactic a few seasons ago to catch out Jaime Lannister which was mentioned there but it's a distant distant memory!
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Post by: Don Johnson on August 01, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
It's one of the shows that gets better once you rewatch it then rewatch again.

Sometimes I just watch whatever old episode Sky would be showing and it's amazing the things you pick up on.
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 01, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
The super hot one is still alive though.  Your doll from Hollyoaks was unreal last night, this show has the best talent of any show ever.

Well looks like she is pretty fecked now. Shame

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Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 01, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
Finally getting round to watching the most recent episode. Diana Rigg was fantastic.
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Post by: leenie on August 02, 2017, 07:47:12 AM
Most recent episode is up there as one of my favourites - the dialogue was unreal  (Jon had an answer everytime for danersys) - so much to take on .  . Best moment was lord varys talking to red woman .. some would suggest he knew what her cyptric msg meant however I think he hasn't a clue .. and he always knows .. where and when are they my both going to die
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Post by: stew on August 02, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
The wee lannister will end up ruling the kingdoms.
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Post by: gallsman on August 02, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
The wee lannister will end up ruling the kingdoms.

Not a chance.
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Post by: gallsman on August 04, 2017, 07:17:43 PM
Episode 4 has leaked. For anyone into that sort of thing.
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Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 07:24:27 PM
Only 480p. I'll wait for the 1080p Amazon rip to hit Monday.
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Post by: gallsman on August 04, 2017, 07:24:55 PM
Only 480p. I'll wait for the 1080p Amazon rip to hit Monday.

Thanks for letting us know.
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Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 07:27:42 PM
Only 480p. I'll wait for the 1080p Amazon rip to hit Monday.

Thanks for letting us know.

You're very welcome.

For the non-jackasses, it's the best version of the show you can get, even if you've paid for the TV station that airs it.
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Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 12:13:50 AM
Stunning episode.
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Post by: Maurice Moss on August 05, 2017, 12:17:31 AM
Great episode!
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 07, 2017, 03:20:41 AM
Wow.
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Post by: gawa316 on August 07, 2017, 06:01:18 AM
That was fuckin' deadly television right there
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Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 07, 2017, 10:05:03 AM
Deadly episode, as this battle has been a long time coming and there has been a lot of character development I thought they sort of chickened out of killing off two of the characters on the losing side (although both of them are help make the show great), I would say if this was in the books both of them would have been ended.
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Post by: gallsman on August 07, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
Nah, Jaime is the best bet to kill Cersei. He'll live.
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Post by: MoChara on August 07, 2017, 03:17:04 PM
Nah, Jaime is the best bet to kill Cersei. He'll live.

Aye the little brother strangling her prophecy, its too obvious to actually be Tyrion
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Post by: BennyHarp on August 07, 2017, 04:46:50 PM
Nah, Jaime is the best bet to kill Cersei. He'll live.

Or Arya using Jamie's face after killing him herself?
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Post by: Maiden1 on August 07, 2017, 04:53:58 PM
http://www.suffolkgazette.com/news/game-of-thrones/

‘I’m not ogling the breasts in Game of Thrones’, insists middle-aged man  | July 28, 2017
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Game of Thrones

A middle-aged man insists he is gripped by the story in Game of Thrones – and in no way watches simply to ogle at beautiful women’s breasts.

Jonathan Smith, 51, says he is enjoying the hit television series because he has always been a fan of dragons “and stuff like that”.


 
But his long-suffering wife, Samantha said: “Let’s be honest, he’s just watching it for the tits.

“Jonathan was hooked by all the naked breasts and full-frontals in series one – and has kept watching ever since even though the nudity has been toned down. A bit.

“He’s never liked dragons or shown any interest in fantasy stories in their true sense – the only fantasies he enjoys now involve threesomes with buxom wenches in King’s Landing.”


 
IT manager Jonathan, from Ipswich in Suffolk, refused to admit the women in the series — all of them — were attractive with shapely bodies. Even the older ones.

“I can’t say I’ve noticed,” he said. “I’m too busy trying to keep up with all the scheming and plot twists to worry about girls with no clothes on.”

Game of Thrones is currently broadcasting its seventh series, and centres around a lot of people claiming they are the true king or queen of a world in which a huge wall splits the north and the south.

The Suffolk Gazette revealed recently that Game of Thrones scenes were being filmed in Norfolk.

There are ghostly figures, wolves, witches, dragons and even a dwarf – but that’s enough about Norfolk.
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Post by: An Watcher on August 07, 2017, 10:10:01 PM
Great viewing
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 14, 2017, 11:09:17 AM
How many of the magnificent 7 on their suicide mission will live? 3 like the westerns??
A change of pace from last week but still great viewing
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Post by: gallsman on August 14, 2017, 11:21:22 AM
I simply love being right when it means Syferus is wrong.
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Post by: nrico2006 on August 15, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.
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Post by: MoChara on August 15, 2017, 08:49:14 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.

Aye but there's no way they could know that it was significant when Jon doesn't even know his da, question is though did they bring that book North to the wall with them.
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Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2017, 09:17:13 AM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?
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Post by: BennyHarp on August 15, 2017, 09:21:30 AM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?

It was the note that Sanza sent to Winterfell when she declared her loyalty to the crown after Ned Stark's beheading. I think it said about Ned being a traitor to Joffrey and deserving his sentence.?
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Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2017, 09:24:35 AM
Is Arya gona kill her sister??
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Post by: canice lynch on August 15, 2017, 09:37:35 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.

Aye but there's no way they could know that it was significant when Jon doesn't even know his da, question is though did they bring that book North to the wall with them.

I think Sam was writing it out in a new book which he then gave down to his son so I assume that they have it away with them to the wall..
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Post by: nrico2006 on August 15, 2017, 01:19:20 PM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?

It was the note that Sanza sent to Winterfell when she declared her loyalty to the crown after Ned Stark's beheading. I think it said about Ned being a traitor to Joffrey and deserving his sentence.?

Littlefinger being sneaky and trying to manipulate Arya into going against Sansa.
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Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2017, 02:51:26 PM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?

It was the note that Sanza sent to Winterfell when she declared her loyalty to the crown after Ned Stark's beheading. I think it said about Ned being a traitor to Joffrey and deserving his sentence.?

Littlefinger being sneaky and trying to manipulate Arya into going against Sansa.

It's not like him
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Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 09:43:59 AM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident
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Post by: johnneycool on August 16, 2017, 09:55:09 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.

Aye but there's no way they could know that it was significant when Jon doesn't even know his da, question is though did they bring that book North to the wall with them.

I think Sam was writing it out in a new book which he then gave down to his son so I assume that they have it away with them to the wall..

Gilly stopped short of revealing the real truth about Rhaegar and Lyanna, one of the main reasons for Roberts Rebellion.
Not sure if the old Maester who wrote the book knew of Jon's impending birth, but probably did as Sam made a big deal of him noting everything down, even his bowel movements.

Episode 5 was lacking in action, but there were lots of little things coming together. Jon and the dragon, Gilly and the reading, the return of Mormont to Danerys (still friendzone though), Danery's having notions of Jon.
I'm presuming young Baratheon who appeared for the first time in a long time has a part to play as well..
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Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 11:55:17 AM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident

It's widely available on torrent sites at this stage. A 1080p copy as well.
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Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 12:38:40 PM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident

It's widely available on torrent sites at this stage. A 1080p copy as well.

unbelievable that's two season in a row that they've done it, I'll be watching that tonight.
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Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2017, 02:18:34 PM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident

It's widely available on torrent sites at this stage. A 1080p copy as well.

Ah jaysus I'll have to watch that now too. . . far too much happening to just leave it sitting there goading me for 5 days!!
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Post by: nrico2006 on August 16, 2017, 02:35:17 PM
Tempted myself, just leaves a bigger wait for the next one though.
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Post by: oakleaflad on August 16, 2017, 03:14:56 PM
Gave in to temptation. It didn't disappoint!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2017, 03:16:08 PM
Right no spoilers on here until next week though!!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 03:46:44 PM
It's insane. Just watch it ASAP. Nothing unexpected, just the sheer quantity of action was mental
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on August 16, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
Where can you find it?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 04:40:37 PM
Any torrent site you can think of.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 16, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Guess I'll be avoiding this thread until Sunday night
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 05:07:45 PM
Fill yer boots

http://mycouchtuner.city/2/game-of-thrones-s7-e6-death-is-the-enemy/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 16, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Any links?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 16, 2017, 06:56:06 PM
Watched it there. Very good.

Will wait a few days for people watch it here before discussing it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 16, 2017, 07:00:41 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 07:04:57 PM
Go to literally any torrent site and you will find it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on August 16, 2017, 07:08:26 PM
Link?

Look 3 posts above
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 16, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Very good tense battle scene knocks a few theories on the head regarding third dragon rider
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Don Johnson on August 16, 2017, 11:34:05 PM
Ridiculously good episode there. The leaked one I mean, potential to be the best series yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on August 17, 2017, 12:55:01 AM
No spoilers ...

But OMG
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on August 17, 2017, 01:06:28 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/fullmoviesongoogle/comments/6u5qsy/game_of_thrones_s07e06_1080p/

There's a much better link
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 17, 2017, 09:02:08 AM
Very good tense battle scene knocks a few theories on the head regarding third dragon rider

Aye, was always thinking that the end would be settled by three dragon riders.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: front of the mountain on August 17, 2017, 09:02:53 AM
https://www.facebook.com/mraxto/videos/1559038220785162/?hc_ref=ARRQGOuQDkCQea9m1ed_hEl_sS8VI0hilWfEbs_igBp62WELqOI_7GweFZkBoOsseic
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 17, 2017, 11:03:10 AM
Night King due to throw the javelin for Finland in Tokyo 2020 Olympics I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on August 17, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 17, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 17, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

They're able to bring a dragon back to life and this is what vexes you??

 ;D ;D
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Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

The melted down all the plot armour lying about the place.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on August 17, 2017, 02:42:15 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

Lol that was my first thought ...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 17, 2017, 02:58:38 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

They're able to bring a dragon back to life and this is what vexes you??

 ;D ;D

 ;D lol

Enjoyed the scenes with the Hound & Tormund. Good laugh.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 17, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
Who was the chap who fell off the edge and got ripped to shreds after he stopped Jon Snow falling over. Duine Eile good guy?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 17, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
Just a randommer from the Brotherhood or Free Folk
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 17, 2017, 03:34:50 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???

No real spoiler just puts an end to tyrion being some sort of targaryen in order to fly the third dragon - which was quite a widespread theory
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2017, 05:23:51 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???

No real spoiler just puts an end to tyrion being some sort of targaryen in order to fly the third dragon - which was quite a widespread theory

Puts an end to him riding one, not to him being a Targaryen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 17, 2017, 06:14:54 PM
66 episodes in, and they finally bother to make the White Walkers a credible threat. Even up until the dragon kill it was like watching the Putty Patrol from the Power Rangers - they were being mowed down with ease. White Walkers themselves are so comically weak now we know what Valerian steel does to them. So many undead being stupid enough to run head first into the lake makes it clear that, forget about any prophecies, building a giant mote south of the Wall would have totally fúcked any plans they had. At least with a dragon they are more of a threat.

Still by far the weakest most generic aspect of the show. 66 hours in and not a peep from the Night King - I know they want to make him this silent, scary, other-worldly menace (even though we know for a fact he was once human), fine, but without any exposition being invested in what he's doing is incredibly difficult. Cersei is far more effective a villain because you can see things from her perspective; same goes for Joffrey, Tywin, Ramsey et al. The Night King is just a walking deus ex machina. I had hoped Jon would be captured and we might get a little more story and a little less staring off into the middle distance from the Night King.
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Post by: CiKe on August 17, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
Some episode, can't imagine what the season finale will be like!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 17, 2017, 06:25:36 PM
The fall into the water escape route used in the last 2 episodes...expect something a bit better!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 17, 2017, 06:28:44 PM
The fall into the water escape route used in the last 2 episodes...expect something a bit better!

All the waiting around was a bit much too. It was a decent episode but not a patch on the Battle of the Bástards which was a perfect mixture of stakes, story and smartly shot action. Half the time I didn't even know who the undead were even attacking this week, it was a bit of a muddy mess.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 17, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???

No real spoiler just puts an end to tyrion being some sort of targaryen in order to fly the third dragon - which was quite a widespread theory

Puts an end to him riding one, not to him being a Targaryen.

Think I read somewhere that Tyrion being a Targaryen isn't as plausible as first though. As the whole theory rests of the Mad King having his way with Tywins wife on his wedding night, would it not be Jamie and Cersei who are Targaryen as they're older? And both have fair hair and incestual which was a trait of Targaryens.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
The whole theory doesn't rest on the wedding night at all. Tyrion has physical features that are associated with the Targaryen family, such as his hair and eye colour. He also frequently dreams of and has a fascination with dragons.

Good argument can be made for Cersei/Jaime being Targs too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 18, 2017, 10:11:36 AM
Who was the chap who fell off the edge and got ripped to shreds after he stopped Jon Snow falling over. Duine Eile good guy?

Rewinded that myself, was very hard to make out who was who.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
Who was the chap who fell off the edge and got ripped to shreds after he stopped Jon Snow falling over. Duine Eile good guy?

Rewinded that myself, was very hard to make out who was who.

Basically the lads who kept their hoods up were cannon fodder AN Other.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 18, 2017, 12:47:01 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2017, 01:56:43 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 18, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.
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Post by: CiKe on August 18, 2017, 02:33:02 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.

The conversation with Beric got me thinking, "the shield that defends the realms of men" etc.

What chance Jon Snow doesn't make it.and just dies a hero? Targaryen and Baratheon (even if he is a b**tard) to unite a divided land?

Is Ice and Fire about just him because he is Stark and Targaryen or Dany and him?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.

The conversation with Beric got me thinking, "the shield that defends the realms of men" etc.

What chance Jon Snow doesn't make it.and just dies a hero? Targaryen and Baratheon (even if he is a b**tard) to unite a divided land?

Is Ice and Fire about just him because he is Stark and Targaryen or Dany and him?

I will be severely disappointed if Jon dies again. He still hasn't learnt his lessons, both his own and the errors Nedd and Rob committed by being too honourable and sentimental. Hell, Sansa is starting to plot again him and he hasn't even bothered to send her a raven to keep her up to date, he's committing the same errors in judgement his family have since day one.

Him not running out after Rickon in the Battle of the Bâstards last season was a great opportunity to show a bit of growth. He needs to be more than another heroic dead Stark. They've invested so much in the character killing him off without that growth will cheapen so much of what has went before.

The happy ending would be Dany and Jon together beating the White Walkers and uniting Westeros as King and Queen. But this show has thaught you not to want nice things, even though Jon and Dany have blantantly been the two characters who would never die before the final book/season. The two main characters in Game of Thrones are Dany and Jon, whatever about the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnneycool on August 21, 2017, 09:18:51 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2017, 10:19:44 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnneycool on August 21, 2017, 10:26:42 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 21, 2017, 01:30:31 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: AZOffaly on August 21, 2017, 01:32:46 PM
Lads, this thread is very funny, because I don't watch GoT. Reading the comments about blue eyed dragons, three eyed ravens and other weird shit is a real juxtaposition set next to the comments ye make on football or other threads :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

Hadn't heard that one myself, but I'm sure there is one. There's so many theories floating about, read one today about Gendry being not just Robert's son, but Cersei's as well, making him the heir to two houses and even the Iron Throne. He has to have been brought back for a meaningful reason anyways.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2017, 02:35:34 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Going by the books, he's likely to be a Stark. Don't think of it as a dragon that has any relationship to the Targaryens any more. It's another wight, that just happens to have the form of a dragon.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

Definitely a connection, linked to Bran's warging abilities. One of the theories is that the reason they were taking so long is that they were simply waiting to be brought the dragon.

He has to have been brought back for a meaningful reason anyways.

I think his smithing ability is going to be his contribution - either making better weapons from dragonglass or "rediscovering" how to make Valyrian steel.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 21, 2017, 02:37:40 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

The theory I read on that one was that Bran goes back in time to when the Night King was being created and wargs into him to convince the Children of the Forest to stop, but unwillingly gets trapped inside and is turned into the Night King. Hence why he can see and touch Bran in the visions.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: stew on August 21, 2017, 04:13:57 PM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trileacman on August 22, 2017, 01:10:39 AM
This show is a load of old w**k.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on August 22, 2017, 05:45:43 AM
This show is a load of old w**k.

There's a lot to be said for an old w**k now and again ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 22, 2017, 08:46:13 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on August 22, 2017, 10:45:36 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

The theory I read on that one was that Bran goes back in time to when the Night King was being created and wargs into him to convince the Children of the Forest to stop, but unwillingly gets trapped inside and is turned into the Night King. Hence why he can see and touch Bran in the visions.

Being the 3ER does he not know everything that's ever been so he would know that's what happened the nightking, that's always the quandary with time traveling lol
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 24, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
The more I think about it the more I'm sure the last episode was the worst episode of the show. It relies on so many tv tropes and protected even peripheral characters from certain death. It felt like watching a show regress in front of your eyes. The GoT of a few years ago would have killed off most of the 'Magnificent Seven' yet all that died was a character most would struggle to even name. As the show approaches the finishing line it seems to be becoming a much more standard show.

A lot of these deaths are being saved for the final season, and that fact is starting to slap you in the face at this stage. With seven episodes to go there's no time left to be protecting any character.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: thewobbler on August 24, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
The more I think about it the more I'm sure the last episode was the worst episode of the show. It relies on so many tv tropes and protected even peripheral characters from certain death. It felt like watching a show regress in front of your eyes. The GoT of a few years ago would have killed off most of the 'Magnificent Seven' yet all that died was a character most would struggle to even name. As the show approaches the finishing line it seems to be becoming a much more standard show.

A lot of these deaths are being saved for the final season, and that fact is starting to slap you in the face at this stage. With seven episodes to go there's no time left to be protecting any character.

I agree. I found it entertaining but it wasn't in keeping.

While they probably don't have the runtime left to introduce any new characters of significance, they've still got a main cast of around 50, so putting a few of them down, as we've now come to expect in a penultimate season episode, should have been done. Losing a fecking dragon doesn't count.

---

Tyrion isn't that smart at all. He just has empathy, which is an unusual trait in a high born.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trileacman on August 24, 2017, 10:23:31 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 25, 2017, 07:59:18 AM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 25, 2017, 09:39:36 AM
Maybe there should be another thread on "How to make a better Game of Thrones" . . .
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: stew on August 25, 2017, 11:00:17 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.

Easily the best Character in the show. he will end up on the throne at the end and kill his sister in the process, great show that is in danger of becoming a shadow of what it once was, the last couple of episodes have been the weakest I have ever seen out of this franchise.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 25, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.

Easily the best Character in the show. he will end up on the throne at the end and kill his sister in the process, great show that is in danger of becoming a shadow of what it once was, the last couple of episodes have been the weakest I have ever seen out of this franchise.

I think Jaime will kill her.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: stew on August 25, 2017, 11:38:40 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.

Easily the best Character in the show. he will end up on the throne at the end and kill his sister in the process, great show that is in danger of becoming a shadow of what it once was, the last couple of episodes have been the weakest I have ever seen out of this franchise.

I think Jaime will kill her.

Good call, either would make sense, as long as somebody does and right soon too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on August 25, 2017, 12:24:27 PM
No chance Tyrion will sit the Throne. I think it is pretty clear that there will be no throne at the end of the show. Dany has said it herself, she is going to break the wheel. The show will end with a Westerosi version of democracy and she/John will lead it in a presidential type of role. Tyrion gave the strongest hint yet in the last (may have been two episodes ago) when he was explaining the voting system of the nights watch and kings moot from the Iron Isles.

In terms of the valunquar (sic) prophecy. I think the final episode will follow these sort of lines:

- John etc will bring the wight to Cersei, Jamie et al

- Cersei will appear to accept that she will join their 'cause'

- Cersei will divulge a back stabbing (kill John, Dany etc) plan to Jamie and he will end up killing her as the final straw. He will fully understand that the threat of the dead is real and Cersei's plan will be her Mad King "kill them all" moment.

- Brienne has been sent to Kingslanding to treat with Cersei and she will be the key link to Jamie rekindling his humanity as we saw in the earlier series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 25, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
No chance Tyrion will sit the Throne. I think it is pretty clear that there will be no throne at the end of the show. Dany has said it herself, she is going to break the wheel. The show will end with a Westerosi version of democracy and she/John will lead it in a presidential type of role. Tyrion gave the strongest hint yet in the last (may have been two episodes ago) when he was explaining the voting system of the nights watch and kings moot from the Iron Isles.

In terms of the valunquar (sic) prophecy. I think the final episode will follow these sort of lines:

- John etc will bring the wight to Cersei, Jamie et al

- Cersei will appear to accept that she will join their 'cause'

- Cersei will divulge a back stabbing (kill John, Dany etc) plan to Jamie and he will end up killing her as the final straw. He will fully understand that the threat of the dead is real and Cersei's plan will be her Mad King "kill them all" moment.

- Brienne has been sent to Kingslanding to treat with Cersei and she will be the key link to Jamie rekindling his humanity as we saw in the earlier series.

Cersei will be killed off but not in the next episode Im afraid it s littlefinger whose scheming will finally catch up with him, to be honest dont actually understand what he is up to. In the past it made sense he was almost having a battle of wits with varys but now what exactly is he going to gain from his meddling other than having his head chopped off??
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Post by: omagh_gael on August 25, 2017, 01:51:56 PM
Is Littlefinger's motivation now his little head? I think he's manoeuvring to have Sansa as the head of the Stark house and he as her husband.

I really hope there is more to the Sansa and Arya story arc. If they are playing it straight i.e. they are growing apart/out to get eachother then I'd be very disappointed, surely they are playing a double bluff on LF and he gets his comeuppance in the next episode?
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Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.

It's been very good for most of the run but it's not a patch on a show like Breaking Bad. If you want to see how you go about ending a big show, look no further than BB. It was hitting home runs in its final two seasons.
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Post by: CiKe on August 25, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
I'm hardly an expert on TV series, but I'd find it hard to believe is the best (actors, script, dialogue etc). I'd also find it incredibly hard to believe there have been many more entertaining series.
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 25, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
Is Littlefinger's motivation now his little head? I think he's manoeuvring to have Sansa as the head of the Stark house and he as her husband.

I really hope there is more to the Sansa and Arya story arc. If they are playing it straight i.e. they are growing apart/out to get eachother then I'd be very disappointed, surely they are playing a double bluff on LF and he gets his comeuppance in the next episode?

Your probably right but for such a clever man he is backing a donkey there. Surely he would have been better trying to seduce Cersei or Dany if he wanted the power
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 25, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.

It's been very good for most of the run but it's not a patch on a show like Breaking Bad. If you want to see how you go about ending a big show, look no further than BB. It was hitting home runs in its final two seasons.

Really?  Season 7 has been excellent.  I imagine season 8 will be even better.  Breaking Bad was brilliant too, but hard to pick one over the other. 
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Post by: omagh_gael on August 25, 2017, 02:55:45 PM
GoT has made some major balls ups over the years with the plot etc but, imo, it is still a better show that BB overall.
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Post by: gallsman on August 25, 2017, 03:31:22 PM
Season 7 has been by and large terrible in my book (geddit?). Great to get some payoffs that we've be long expecting but they've been handled pretty poorly with some awful scripting. Great visuals though.

6 was quite poor too but picked up massively towards the end.

5 was messy because of how they ruined the Dorne angle but had Hardhome in it, which was an absolute masterpiece.

First 4 sessions are terrific. I don't know if it's as simple as it went downhill once they started going off piste but the timing aligns more or less.
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Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.

It's been very good for most of the run but it's not a patch on a show like Breaking Bad. If you want to see how you go about ending a big show, look no further than BB. It was hitting home runs in its final two seasons.

Really?  Season 7 has been excellent.  I imagine season 8 will be even better.  Breaking Bad was brilliant too, but hard to pick one over the other.

I was able to turn a blind eye to the last minute saves and plot conveniences until the last episode. Before that we had Jaime's last second rescue from certain dragon-toasted death and then not sinking to the bottom of the lake despite wearing a full suit of armour, Bran just straight chillin' at Winterfell and not telling Jon he's actually Dany's nephew because they want the romance to develop before they tell them it's incestuous, Arya acting like a jackass and Littlefinger becoming even more of a pantomime villain, the very network TV resolution to the Lannisters' money troubles, and the explaining away that the money wasn't there when Dany attacked with the dragons, so many little unbelievable and lazy pieces of writing.

That last episode just went way too far with that stuff and turned me against it. The finale has a lot of work to do now to get me genuinely excited for the final season.

The problem shows that get to this stage have is fans really invest in the characters and the world - if this was just some random show a season or two into its run your standards would be far lower and you wouldn't think too heavily about the errors. GoT through its own successes has set a higher target and when it doesn't hit that it's glaring. I expect better, and I doubt I'm alone. The Atlantic had a great article post-Beyond the Wall that encapsulates my feelings on where the show is right now:

Quote
Jon Snow is about to die. Again. This time, his imminent death is coming at the bony hands of the army of the dead: Jon, attacked by wights, has plunged into an icy lake. Torn at by zombies and closed in on by frigid waters, he seems to be done for. And, yet—here is a spoiler that, if you have been watching Game of Thrones, will be not much of a spoiler at all—Jon survives. Maybe because he’s a really strong swimmer who is not at all weighed down by the layers of animal pelts he had donned specifically for their heft. Maybe because of the Targaryen fire that warms his blood. Maybe because his soul is buoyed by his growing romance with his aun—


But we are not meant to question such things. Nor are we meant to question it when, during the epic battle between the Night King and the Guardians of the Known World, Tormund gets saved, at the last second, by the Hound. Or when Benjen gallops into the battle at the very last minute, sacrificing himself to the zombie-horde so that Jon might ride again, even though both of them totally could have fit on that raft horse. Or when Daenerys herself arrives on the scene at precisely the right moment: to save the remaining Guardians, Jon, finally, included.

In some ways, those moments are simply continuations of approaches Game of Thrones has long taken in its storytelling: plot twists, destabilized time, a steadfast faith in magic—the kinds of powers that merge the world of the show and the world beyond it. The kinds that come from authors, and showrunners, and the surly demands of narrative. More and more, though, as the show approaches its final season, it has been losing its reassurance of narrative control. Its seams are showing. Its stories are cracking like so much zombie-ice. We are not meant to question—this is a fictional and fantastical world, after all—and yet it’s becoming more and more difficult not to. So while the show’s current season is establishing mysteries about sororicide, and incest, and zombie-dragons, it’s also establishing a broader one: Does this story still know what it’s doing? Will viewers’ longstanding faith in it, in the end, be rewarded?


Game of Thrones is in many ways a show about faith: in gods, in others, in oneself. But it also demands, as any such show will, another kind of faith—in storytelling. In authorship. In the universe that is being constructed as a setting for the other things—a universe full of its own authors. Who knows, in this world, things others do not? Who decides how the stories will play out, and how the games will be played? The Lord of Light, and the Three-Eyed Raven, and Bran, and Hodor, and time travel, and resurrections, and dragons, and magic: Their presence has made Game of Thrones not just a work of fantasy, but also, in its way, a work of logic. This is a universe with its own rules to be obeyed—and, for the audience, its own disbeliefs to be suspended. Wildfire works as a weapon because, in the show’s world, it literally works as a weapon. Bran becomes the Three-Eyed Raven because we watch him in the transformation. Arya has become “no one,” we understand, because we have watched her become so many someones.

That so little of this has seemed the tautology it is has been a credit to the show’s execution: Game of Thrones, with the help of its hefty budget, has been exceptionally good at the art of universe-construction. It has been fantasy that has, against all odds, made sense. What is dead may never die has long been an element of the show; the remarkable thing is that, for the most part, the death-fleeing has seemed a natural extension of the order of things rather than a violation of it.


Will Game of Thrones take the good faith it has built up over nearly seven seasons and squander it?


And yet here are some things that happened on Sunday’s show: Viewers learned that Arya carries around a set of rubbery death-masks in a tasteful leather satchel. And that ravens can travel, seemingly, at the speeds of turbo-jets. And that Gendry, on the ground, can somehow do the same. And that the army of the dead is as resourceful as it is populous, apparently, able as it was, after the battle was fought, to procure the massive chains with which to remove a dead dragon from icy waters. Maybe there’s a Home Depot conveniently located next to the Arby’s off the I(ce)-95?

In some ways, sure, all that is simply an extension of the disbelief-suspension that has always been a requirement of the show—the deus-ex-machina twists that have been presented not as easy solutions to narrative problems, but rather as evidence of the show’s cosmic surefootedness. Again and again, fate, which is to say the show’s authors, collectively, intercedes. The battle is lost—until Stannis makes a surprise appearance. Arya’s cover will be blown by Ser Amory—until Jaqen H’ghar kills him the second before he can tell her secrets. Daenerys and her small band of loyal advisors are doomed on Meereen, enclosed on by enemies—until Drogon shows up to save them, just in the nick of time. Jaime, in the line of dragon fire, is at the last minute pushed into a river by Bronn—and, then, rather than sinking to the bottom, as one might expect given the Kingslayer’s clothing (armor) and prosthetic (a hand made of gold), he survives by means unknown. Showrunners are their own kinds of gods; they tell their own kinds of truths.

But, now, winter has come. The series is coming to a close. The time for resolution is here. And the show has established, at this point, many more questions than answers. Is Arya still Arya, or someone—something—else? Will Bran, notably absent in Sunday’s episode, provide an as-yet-unseen salvation? Will the White Walker dragon breathe fire, or something else? Will the battle that will inevitably ensue be the final song of fire and ice? Is Jon Snow, infallible and invincible, the Drowned God? Will he and Daenerys—“Dany”—join the long line of coupled-off Targaryens?

They’re enticing questions. But “Beyond the Wall,” on Sunday, did not bode well for their answers. This is a season, after all, that has at times seemed almost overly aware of Thrones’s success as a cultural phenomenon. The Ed Sheeran cameo. The many, many meme-friendly moments. The plots that seem designed to get from one spectacular set piece to the next. As my colleague Spencer Kornhaber put it, “The fuzziness with time just adds to the impression that this is a story driven by coincidence and expedience rather than logic.” And it suggests a certain sloppiness in a show that has otherwise been so precise in its world-building—a sloppiness that asks other questions: Will Game of Thrones keep jumping sharks? Will it nuke fridges? Will it take the good faith it has built up over nearly seven seasons and squander it? Could it, in the end, go the way of Lost, its myths busted, its key questions unresolved?

Or: Is the show simply building, with all its moments of easy absurdity, to some final, pivotal plot twist?

Sunday’s grand battle followed in one of the traditions Game of Thrones has established over its seven seasons: It provided an epic event not to close out the season, but as a capper to the season’s penultimate episode. Next week’s finale will ostensibly yield, if past formulas are any indication, an episode that will pick up the pieces and start to make sense of the new world. It might provide another epic battle, cannily staged and stunningly shot. It might provide another extension of the question fans have been asking since those squawking dragons first crawled over Daenerys’s sooty shoulders at the end of the show’s first season: What if the Night King gets one? What then? We’ll soon find out. And we can safely assume that Jon Snow, saved by fate and fortune and the workings of a show that needs him, will be there to find out along with us.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/deus-ex-westeros/537480/
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Post by: Mike Tyson on August 28, 2017, 11:15:51 AM
f**king hell. Can't wait for the next season!
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Post by: gallsman on August 28, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
Thought that was poor enough. They obviously used up all their CGI budget on the battles with the dragons as the CGI in the scene at the wall looked ridiculous.
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Post by: leenie on August 28, 2017, 03:32:24 PM
Didn't expect the person who was killed off  to happen.. thought they would have made it to the end ..
I thought it was a great episode
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Post by: Mike Tyson on August 28, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
Didn't expected the person who was killed off was going to happen.. thought they would have made it to the end ..
I thought it was a great episode

Glad they were killed off!

Cersci is a slippy ****. Couldn't trust her but can't help think she's completely lost jamie now and down the seeds of her own demise.
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Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2017, 04:22:05 PM
That was a return to form to say the least.

They rescued the Arya-Sansa storyline with that turn, albeit I didn't have faith in the show to be smart enough to actually be leading towards it. And at least it proved Bran wasn't just straight chilling for the whole season and actually did some good.

All the King's Landing stuff was great, characters exchanging knowing looks and every word felt like it had the weight of seven seasons of death and betrayals behind it. I especially enjoyed Theon getting his mojo back. If his uncle is ferrying mercs in Essos he should have a good chance at saving his sister, and it would be a fitting resolution and redemption for his story even if he was to die.

The final scene was great, total destruction and the first time you got the sense that these guys are a real threat to Seven Kingdoms. You do wonder what the fûck the Night King was going to do if Jon hadn't the bright idea to go get a wight and draw the dragons north. He's still a relatively weak villain because unlike everyone else he has little motive or character. And it's tough to see how they'll pull an about face and give him that in the final season, perhaps some Bran-o-vision.

You'd assume an assault on Winterfell will be coming early next season now.
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 28, 2017, 05:22:26 PM
I enjoyed it but have to say I thought it was a bit predictable. It tied up loose ends and the Arya Sansa piece was really well acted but also predictable. Jamie will kill his sister and have an about face. Jon will not marry the Mother of Dragons.
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Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2017, 06:54:38 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?
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Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2017, 07:06:47 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?
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Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?

Who knows...why would a brother want to buck his sister?? I've no idea but anything goes in this show
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Post by: laoislad on August 28, 2017, 08:23:03 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?

Who knows...why would a brother want to buck his sister?? I've no idea but anything goes in this show
Or why would anyone want to watch that shite   ;D
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Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?

Who knows...why would a brother want to buck his sister?? I've no idea but anything goes in this show
Or why would anyone want to watch that shite   ;D

Suppose all the shit that goes on in GOT is an everyday occurrence in Laois, so not that interesting to watch ;)
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Post by: screenexile on August 28, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
You have to wonder about people questioning whether a lad can swim to the top of a frozen lake in heavy clothes yet don't question when a dragon is brought back to life by "the dead"!

Just enjoy the show and try not to think about it so much you'll be all the better for it!
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Post by: straightred on August 28, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
I enjoyed it but have to say I thought it was a bit predictable. It tied up loose ends and the Arya Sansa piece was really well acted but also predictable. Jamie will kill his sister and have an about face. Jon will not marry the Mother of Dragons.

Enjoyed it tonight but shame that we have to wait to next year for the big finale. Its all coming together. Sansa finally came good - about time she grew a pair !
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Post by: leenie on August 28, 2017, 11:30:58 PM
What was with tyrions odd look the other two were getting jiggy.


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Also if danys got up the duff .. Jon would be his sons cousin  ..
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Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 12:03:55 AM
You have to wonder about people questioning whether a lad can swim to the top of a frozen lake in heavy clothes yet don't question when a dragon is brought back to life by "the dead"!

Just enjoy the show and try not to think about it so much you'll be all the better for it!

I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense.

Every show has its own internal logic - this happens to be a world where dragons, undead and magic actually exist. I don't remember getting the memo about fúcking gravity working differently for main characters..
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Post by: screenexile on August 29, 2017, 11:28:10 AM
A Priestess brought him back from the dead and you struggle with the fact that he was able to swim to surface in heavy clothes?!!

Seriously you need to lighten up!
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Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 29, 2017, 12:25:06 PM
Really enjoyed the season and finale. Really hated little finger and was delighted at his demise. I like to be entertained and the show does that for me, but of the musings on here (detailed to say the least) really do baffle the mind. Each to their own I suppose.
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Post by: lurganblue on August 29, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
The smug look on little finger quickly turned. Thought that was a great scene.
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Post by: thewobbler on August 29, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
You have to wonder about people questioning whether a lad can swim to the top of a frozen lake in heavy clothes yet don't question when a dragon is brought back to life by "the dead"!

Just enjoy the show and try not to think about it so much you'll be all the better for it!

I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense.

Every show has its own internal logic - this happens to be a world where dragons, undead and magic actually exist. I don't remember getting the memo about fúcking gravity working differently for main characters..


A lot of GoT's internal logic though is determined by what the Gods want. As mentioned above, if the Gods want Jon Snow alive, then surely him floating to the top of a lake isn't that big an ask for them.


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I expect that GoT will end up with a Wire style conclusion that history just repeats itself indefinitely, with whoever it is that gains the throne surrounding themselves with maesters and politicians, who set about hiding, romanticising and rewriting history according to their agendas. Over the course of 10 generations, it all becomes so distorted that nobody really remembers, and 15 generations later a deep descendant of Ned Stark is warning that winter is coming.
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Post by: mrhardyannual on August 30, 2017, 09:31:52 PM
Looks like it will be 2019 before GoT returns.
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Post by: clarshack on October 23, 2017, 09:54:19 AM
watched season 1 last July (2016) and tbh wasn't too fussed about it. left it 12 months before watching season 2 and since then i've watched the whole lot. just finished season 7 last night. glad i stuck with it as it's been superb. it's good not having to avoid all the spoilers now lol!
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Post by: dec on April 14, 2019, 09:29:57 PM
So is anyone going to stay up until 2:00am Irish time to watch this, or try to avoid spoilers until Monday night. Easier for me in the US to watch at 9pm tonight. I only started watching in January so I have been binging on half a season a week, it will be a relief to be down to one episode a week.
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Post by: screenexile on April 14, 2019, 10:45:32 PM
Going to chance getting up for it!! Will see if I can manage it!
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Post by: ziggysego on April 15, 2019, 12:30:22 AM
Recording it at 2pm to watch sometime tomorrow at my own leisure.
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Post by: gallsman on April 15, 2019, 02:42:33 AM
Load of nonsense so far. f**king do something!
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Post by: Estimator on April 15, 2019, 09:37:48 AM
Load of nonsense so far. f**king do something!

**Spoilers**


Set the alarm and got up to watch it. Decent enough viewing.

The episode was always going to be scene setting and giving all the major players some screen time.  I think that everyone important appeared even if only for a few seconds.
Wasn't expecting too much action from the off.

I see Paddy Power are doing odds on 'Who will rule Westeros when Game of Thrones ends?', Noticed that Littlefinger was 12-1!!
There is a theory out there that it wasn't Littlefinger that Arya killed but one of the Faceless Men from Braavos!

On to points from the first episode:

Doesn't look like Jon was happy with the news.
The death of the Umber kid was very well done.
Great to see Bran and Jaime meeting again, and the Hound and Arya.
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Post by: oakleaflad on April 15, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
Load of nonsense so far. f**king do something!

**Spoilers**


Set the alarm and got up to watch it. Decent enough viewing.

The episode was always going to be scene setting and giving all the major players some screen time.  I think that everyone important appeared even if only for a few seconds.
Wasn't expecting too much action from the off.

I see Paddy Power are doing odds on 'Who will rule Westeros when Game of Thrones ends?', Noticed that Littlefinger was 12-1!!
There is a theory out there that it wasn't Littlefinger that Arya killed but one of the Faceless Men from Braavos!

On to points from the first episode:

Doesn't look like Jon was happy with the news.
The death of the Umber kid was very well done.
Great to see Bran and Jaime meeting again, and the Hound and Arya.
That's a good summary
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Post by: gallsman on April 15, 2019, 01:44:28 PM
What should have been two absolutely epic moments were ruined - Jon riding Rhaegal (named after his father) and learning the truth of his parentage.

The former was almost like comic relief and reminded me of Harry Potter's first broomstick flying lesson while the latter was ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".
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Post by: Estimator on April 15, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
What should have been two absolutely epic moments were ruined - Jon riding Rhaegal (named after his father) and learning the truth of his parentage.

The former was almost like comic relief and reminded me of Harry Potter's first broomstick flying lesson while the latter was ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".

I'd certainly agree that the two going for a spin on the dragons didn't work at all.
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Post by: dec on April 15, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".

I thought that was true to Sam's character, he is a bit of a bumbling mess.
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Post by: gallsman on April 15, 2019, 06:36:47 PM
Oh it was absolutely true to Sam as a character. My point is that I don't think that was the right manner in which to do the reveal. Some people have been waiting nearly 25 years for Jon to find out how parentage and it was all just a bit naff.
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Post by: andoireabu on April 15, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
Oh it was absolutely true to Sam as a character. My point is that I don't think that was the right manner in which to do the reveal. Some people have been waiting nearly 25 years for Jon to find out how parentage and it was all just a bit naff.

How would you have done it?

Thought it was a good start showing where all the main hitters are and setting them up for the rest of the season. Was worth the wait
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Post by: redcard on April 16, 2019, 09:08:54 AM
What should have been two absolutely epic moments were ruined - Jon riding Rhaegal (named after his father) and learning the truth of his parentage.

The former was almost like comic relief and reminded me of Harry Potter's first broomstick flying lesson while the latter was ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".

I'd certainly agree that the two going for a spin on the dragons didn't work at all.

If they had played “Raindrops keep falling on my head” during that scene it would have been so much better
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Post by: trailer on April 16, 2019, 10:05:31 AM
It was pretty much a roll call. Who's still alive and their current location. Dunno what the outcome of Jon and Daneyarys will be. Probably some sort of fucked up child. Probably a Dragon child.

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Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 16, 2019, 10:34:10 AM
You could see the moment where Jon realised he’s riding his aunt
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Post by: screenexile on April 16, 2019, 10:36:29 AM
It was pretty much a roll call. Who's still alive and their current location. Dunno what the outcome of Jon and Daneyarys will be. Probably some sort of fucked up child. Probably a Dragon child.

Sounds pretty cool!!
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Post by: bennydorano on April 16, 2019, 01:10:14 PM
Sansa would IMO be obvious favourite (maybe too obvious) to be sitting on the Iron Throne come the end, she's 5/1 on oddschecker, Bran fav at 6/5.
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Post by: omagh_gael on April 16, 2019, 01:26:51 PM
I think there's a good chance that Daneyarys will go all mad queeny when she finds out the news. John forced to kill her?

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Post by: gallsman on April 16, 2019, 01:59:15 PM
I think there's a good chance that Daneyarys will go all mad queeny when she finds out the news. John forced to kill her?

Jon as Azor Ahai would have him killing her alright.
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Post by: ziggysego on April 16, 2019, 02:47:35 PM
I enjoyed it. Almost two years now since it was last on, so it was just a reintroduction and all happy-families (though Jon and Khaleesi got a little too happy). Big reunions all over the place.

It can only mean one thing, next week is going to be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on April 16, 2019, 05:53:54 PM
I enjoyed it. Almost two years now since it was last on, so it was just a reintroduction and all happy-families (though Jon and Khaleesi got a little too happy). Big reunions all over the place.

It can only mean one thing, next week is going to be a bloodbath.

Not yet. Next episode will be moving the army of the dead into position and episode 3 will be the war of Winterfell.

Episode 3 to 6 are all around the 1hr 20min mark. Should be epic!

On a side note, do any of you listen to any GOT podcasts? I find the Bald Move one very good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: LooseCannon on April 16, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
How do people watch this shite? The teletubbies provide more entertainment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on April 16, 2019, 06:57:04 PM
How do people watch this shite? The teletubbies provide more entertainment.

Have you watched it all?  Sure stick to teletubbies for your entertainment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on April 21, 2019, 10:54:00 PM
Decent episode. The third should be spectacular.
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Post by: dec on April 21, 2019, 11:03:17 PM
Decent episode. The third should be spectacular.

You've seen the second?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on April 21, 2019, 11:06:45 PM
Yes. Leaked about 4 hours ago.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on April 22, 2019, 06:29:37 AM
Bit of comedy in that episode...Giants milk🤣
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on April 24, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
Another slow scene setting episode.  A calm before the storm.
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Post by: screenexile on April 24, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
The Giant's milk story is the best/funniest thing I think I've ever heard nearly spat my tea out listening to it hilarious!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 24, 2019, 02:31:25 PM
Jesus but it's like the night before Christmas only there a greater anticipation of death.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on April 25, 2019, 08:23:00 AM
Tormond has had some great lines already. However, my favourite was when he arrived back at Winterfell and asked Jon is the big woman still here. The look on his face was priceless.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on April 25, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Pretty slow burner so far but looks like the carnage is bound to start this week. I have a feeling that  the people that were shown preparing for battle during Podric's song (Grey Worm, Davos etc) could be on borrowed time.

A lot of rumours online that Dany's comment in the trailers that "The dead are already here" could be a key twist!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2019, 11:20:28 AM
Talk that the next episode will be the longest of the series.  It is supposed to be one of the longest battle scenes ever, being compared to the Helm's Deep battle in Lord of the Rings.  It's really anyone's guess who will survive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on April 25, 2019, 11:29:15 AM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 25, 2019, 11:41:18 AM
Cersei is getting a right bit of sorting all the same. The guy from the Iron islands gave her one and hasn't Jamie put a live round in her. At this rate Tyrion is probably due to mount her before seasons end. She's a dirty ole bitch.
Hats of to the writers and directors. Pile of riding in it to be fair.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnnycool on April 25, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
Cersei is getting a right bit of sorting all the same. The guy from the Iron islands gave her one and hasn't Jamie put a live round in her. At this rate Tyrion is probably due to mount her before seasons end. She's a dirty ole bitch.
Hats of to the writers and directors. Pile of riding in it to be fair.

Bron is the mainman in that regard it seems.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on April 25, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 25, 2019, 12:22:40 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.

They fought the dead before. That was discovered in the last series in paintings etc and I assume that is why the wall was built and the Nights watch put insitu. To keep the dead at bay. So I doubt the Night king will be killed. Defeated perhaps. It'll then be a race to King's Landing.
But hey, who f**king knows, the Night King might defeat them all, shoot down to King's Landing, empty the bag into Cersei and they could live happily ever after in a semi long night foreverness. It's that fucked up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: thewobbler on April 25, 2019, 12:36:35 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.

I’d be surprised if the walkers aren’t wiped out in full by episode 4.

If there’s morals anywhere in the story it’s that a) human cultures are absolutely horrible b**tards to each other, unless they encounter something that forces them to work together, and b) human cultures will continue to do the same horrible things to each other on an endless loop.

My inkling is that destruction of the walkers will lead to a happy (enough) unification of the Targaryens and Starks, which will steamroll over the Lannisters, and whereby Jon and Dani rule from Kings Landing and Sansa holds the Warden of the North. In effect, pretty much back to where we were at the start; a largely peaceful and functional Westeros.

But a lack of useful progeny (which is what should happen when the king and queen are aunt and nephew) will see various claims to the throne unearthed 20 years down the line, and a Lannister revolution - likely led by Cersei’s new offspring or maybe a b**tard of Tyrion - will kick the whole thing off again properly.


Quick summary - the night king and the dead are a control mechanism by the gods, to ensure that humans work together every once in a while.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on April 25, 2019, 12:41:16 PM
Just saw a video of references to the crypt and how 'safe' it will be down there . . . bound to be a bloodbath!!!!

Will the Whitewalkers resurrect Ned Stark?? Is that possible?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 25, 2019, 01:19:43 PM
Just saw a video of references to the crypt and how 'safe' it will be down there . . . bound to be a bloodbath!!!!

Will the Whitewalkers resurrect Ned Stark?? Is that possible?

They happened to have giant chains to pull a dragon out of the depth of the sea and turn it into a white walker dragon. Bringing Ned Stark back would probably be a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Billys Boots on April 25, 2019, 01:31:46 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.

I’d be surprised if the walkers aren’t wiped out in full by episode 4.

If there’s morals anywhere in the story it’s that a) human cultures are absolutely horrible b**tards to each other, unless they encounter something that forces them to work together, and b) human cultures will continue to do the same horrible things to each other on an endless loop.

My inkling is that destruction of the walkers will lead to a happy (enough) unification of the Targaryens and Starks, which will steamroll over the Lannisters, and whereby Jon and Dani rule from Kings Landing and Sansa holds the Warden of the North. In effect, pretty much back to where we were at the start; a largely peaceful and functional Westeros.

But a lack of useful progeny (which is what should happen when the king and queen are aunt and nephew) will see various claims to the throne unearthed 20 years down the line, and a Lannister revolution - likely led by Cersei’s new offspring or maybe a b**tard of Tyrion - will kick the whole thing off again properly.


Quick summary - the night king and the dead are a control mechanism by the gods, to ensure that humans work together every once in a while.

I agree.  I think there will be an ending emphasising the cyclical nature of the 'game'.  Order will be restored, the wall will be rebuilt, the black watch will be reconstituted, and it will all begin again.  I can see the final 10 minutes in the last episode being a look forward 200 years and the whole cycle starting again. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: markl121 on April 25, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
It will begin again with another incestuous couple on the throne in danerys and jon. Bran will be bran the builder and build it all again and sansa will be the stark in winterfell. Hoping for a white walker victory though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2019, 03:37:23 AM
Man oh man
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Estimator on April 29, 2019, 03:41:09 AM
Man oh man

Indeed!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Rois on April 29, 2019, 06:40:25 AM
Man oh man

Indeed!
Stop there!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: tintin25 on April 29, 2019, 06:41:59 AM
Couldn’t see half of it! Lol
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omochain on April 29, 2019, 06:51:12 AM
The moto seems to be...….Never let " batin the $hite" out of one and other get in the way of a good story. Too much battle and not enough story tonight for me and that was the bits I could see.
Now, more battles and on to seeing Cersei getting her ass kicked :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on April 29, 2019, 10:12:23 AM
Really don't know what to make of that. Visually spectacular obviously but narratively incredibly weak.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on April 29, 2019, 10:56:23 AM
Really don't know what to make of that. Visually spectacular obviously but narratively incredibly weak.

But surely that's what the last 2 weeks have been about . . . I think it went as well as it could have and now the last few episodes will be a rollercoaster.

Will watch it again tonight with some better picture settings. Surely Sir Bron of the Blackwater will be making an appearance soon!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 29, 2019, 11:43:31 AM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on April 29, 2019, 02:18:50 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: bennydorano on April 29, 2019, 09:09:41 PM
It was up against it in trying to surpass the Battle of the b**tards to be fair.  Still awesome viewing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trileacman on April 29, 2019, 09:49:30 PM
Hardhome was three times the cinematic viewing of that episode. Pure shite.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 29, 2019, 09:52:10 PM
Think they filmed Alot of that outside of toome
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 29, 2019, 10:33:08 PM
Think they filmed Alot of that outside of toome

On a Saturday night.

No real idea what's going on. Is there any armies left to fight Cersei? Jon and Dani kinda fucked about at the start of the episode. They could've thinned a few million dead out with a bit of fire instead they went for a pointless flight with the Dragons. I'm disappointed to be honest.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on April 29, 2019, 11:50:23 PM
Disappointed myself.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: DrinkingHarp on April 30, 2019, 02:41:06 AM
The "lighting of the swords" was awesome.  Then when they charged and poof no more light, the ones standing there were like holy f@$k. Just read it took 11 weeks to film the battle, her two dragons should have taken out half of the dead.

Cinematography (i think) when they are in any dark area it is too dark, watched on three different tv's and locations over the past year and all were the same.

It's still great entertainment for an hour.

That little one from Bear Island, Lyanna - badass to the bone!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: tbrick18 on April 30, 2019, 09:22:23 AM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gander on April 30, 2019, 09:25:11 AM
Think they filmed Alot of that outside of toome

On a Saturday night.

No real idea what's going on. Is there any armies left to fight Cersei? Jon and Dani kinda fucked about at the start of the episode. They could've thinned a few million dead out with a bit of fire instead they went for a pointless flight with the Dragons. I'm disappointed to be honest.

the whole plan was to go after the night king tho, they knew they couldnt beat the army of the dead
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: BennyHarp on April 30, 2019, 09:31:36 AM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Her contributions were a bit lame too - although the lighting (and extinguishing) of the sword of the Dhotraki hoards made for a great scene - it didn't help them very much in the battle and lighting the trench only held the wights back for about 5 mins...but i suppose she did give an important pep talk to Arya.

I thought the death of the Night King was good. There was quite a few important points in that scene, the significance of the knife, stabbing him in the heart - the only place that would kill him,  Arya dropping and catching the knife like she had done in her spar with Brienne. The Night King could only really be killed in some sort of ambush - it would have been too corny for Jon Snow or anyone else to beat him in a one to one battle as he clearly had too many skills. I just wonder what his ZZ top tribute band of generals were doing when Arya sneaked up on him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: oakleaflad on April 30, 2019, 10:20:46 AM
Some of you are hard to please. Was an unprecedented piece of television.

My main issue was that it was a bit dark when I originally watched it so I changed settings on TV and watched it back last night. My only other gripe was that Jamie, Brienne and Podrick seemed to be stuck against that wall themselves for half the episode.

For an 80 minute battle I thought the character moments were still there and done pretty well. (Beric, The Hound, Theon, Jorah, Sansa + Tyrion etc.)

Loved the lighting of the swords and how quickly they were extinguished. Really helped early on to drive home that they couldn't beat the army and had to focus on the night king.

Enjoyed Melisandres not so subtle hint at Arya (Blue eyes) and Lyanna Mormont killing the giant was 100% fan service but enjoyed it none the less.

Most deaths seemed to be to protect someone else (Ed for Sam, Beric for Arya, Theon for Bran, Jorah for Daenerys)

Actually enjoyed that there was chaos. At different stages The Hound, Arya etc. looked like they could give up and be overwhelmed.

Liked that it was Arya and not Jon to kill the Night King. Jon was clean useless btw, running into trouble again and shouting at the dragon yoke at the end.

Apparently the second dragon survived as can be seen in trailer for the next episode.

Looking forward to Cersei's downfall, still think Daenerys could go mad yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 30, 2019, 10:31:42 AM
Thought it was class and despite being dark that I thought added to the whole idea of a chaotic battle field.  Lets face it the notion of organisation in a battle is a bit weird!  The hints and the follow ups on the hints was well pulled through....I thought Bran may have been a dark horse and play a bit of a bitch at the end but tat didn't transpire.  The scene where Beric tried to hold the walkers back in the corrider when he was in a cruciform stance was very poignant and I think leads on nicely to this theory about Bran being the Lord of Light...

https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/binsug/spoilers_the_bran_is_the_lord_of_light_theory_is/

The final battle for the Iron throne will have to go a long way to upstage this but last night was very much the Twin Towers and in keeping with GRRM feelings about LOTR and how it transpired.  Last 2 episodes will effectively be the Return of the King (or Queen!)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gold on April 30, 2019, 11:36:35 AM
Where do you start?!

Too much fighting and not enough narrative I agree although I suppose it captured the chaos of war... Although when you know deep down the Night King will most likely be beaten you can get a bit fed up waitin for it to happen!

Loved that Arya killed  him

How in Gods name Jamie etc lived... Was a bit ridiculous... Sam and Brianne were on the deck more times than Neymar yet somehow survived

Very hard to see too

But unprecedented television

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mourne Red on April 30, 2019, 11:42:28 AM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all?

He's not a Targ, they weren't around when the First Men were around. Targs didn't migrate from Valyria until 7000 years later after the events of the Long Night
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on April 30, 2019, 12:13:06 PM
Although I can understand some people having certain frustrations with the episode (darkness, hard to ascertain what is going on at times, more probably should have died etc), I can only say from my point of view it was a cracking piece of TV.  I was gripped throughout. 

So far I think the series has went more or less as expected.  Now the march on Kings Landing.  The hound v the mountain. Then surely Jamie does the deed on his sister (no not like that again).   
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 30, 2019, 01:18:20 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all?

He's not a Targ, they weren't around when the First Men were around. Targs didn't migrate from Valyria until 7000 years later after the events of the Long Night

I assume this is in the books? It's certainly not explained in any depth in the show.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mourne Red on April 30, 2019, 01:46:32 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all?

He's not a Targ, they weren't around when the First Men were around. Targs didn't migrate from Valyria until 7000 years later after the events of the Long Night

I assume this is in the books? It's certainly not explained in any depth in the show.

It's in the show too, the Children of the forest explain how the Night King was made and I think its Varys or someone in Danys entourage in the early seasons talks about the fall of Valyria and thats when the Targs left and went to Dragonstone and then too conquer Westoros.. Just put the timelines together and there's no chance that the Night King is a Targ.

I expect with the Prequel show being about the First men we will get a backstory on the Night King in it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Walter Cronc on April 30, 2019, 01:55:42 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all?

He's not a Targ, they weren't around when the First Men were around. Targs didn't migrate from Valyria until 7000 years later after the events of the Long Night

I assume this is in the books? It's certainly not explained in any depth in the show.

It's in the show too, the Children of the forest explain how the Night King was made and I think its Varys or someone in Danys entourage in the early seasons talks about the fall of Valyria and thats when the Targs left and went to Dragonstone and then too conquer Westoros.. Just put the timelines together and there's no chance that the Night King is a Targ.

I expect with the Prequel show being about the First men we will get a backstory on the Night King in it.

Is there a prequel? Don't tease us!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: oakleaflad on April 30, 2019, 02:03:19 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all?

He's not a Targ, they weren't around when the First Men were around. Targs didn't migrate from Valyria until 7000 years later after the events of the Long Night

I assume this is in the books? It's certainly not explained in any depth in the show.

It's in the show too, the Children of the forest explain how the Night King was made and I think its Varys or someone in Danys entourage in the early seasons talks about the fall of Valyria and thats when the Targs left and went to Dragonstone and then too conquer Westoros.. Just put the timelines together and there's no chance that the Night King is a Targ.

I expect with the Prequel show being about the First men we will get a backstory on the Night King in it.

Is there a prequel? Don't tease us!!
Announced a brave while ago Walter, last year sometime i'd say. It's called 'The Long Night'. Actors have already been cast. Naomi Watts is a/the main character.

From HBO: https://www.hbo.com/hbo-news/game-of-thrones-prequel-what-to-know (https://www.hbo.com/hbo-news/game-of-thrones-prequel-what-to-know)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Tyrdub on April 30, 2019, 02:40:40 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Does surviving the dragon fire confirm the theory that the night king was a Targaryen? The wee smirk he gave after that was very good.
I'd have liked to know a bit more about the red woman's back story myself. Where was she and what was she doing?
The only small gripe I had was that the night king turned out to be a bit too easy to kill. I'd have liked to see a few 1 on 1s with the White Walkers and maybe between Jon and the Night King.
But have to say, I thought it was a fantastic episode.

Not sure if Jon's dragon died? Is there any army left at all? +1
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Post by: Tyrdub on April 30, 2019, 02:41:58 PM
Some of you are hard to please. Was an unprecedented piece of television.

My main issue was that it was a bit dark when I originally watched it so I changed settings on TV and watched it back last night. My only other gripe was that Jamie, Brienne and Podrick seemed to be stuck against that wall themselves for half the episode. i closed the curtains and turned off all the lights in the room, picture became so much clearer after that

For an 80 minute battle I thought the character moments were still there and done pretty well. (Beric, The Hound, Theon, Jorah, Sansa + Tyrion etc.)

Loved the lighting of the swords and how quickly they were extinguished. Really helped early on to drive home that they couldn't beat the army and had to focus on the night king.

Enjoyed Melisandres not so subtle hint at Arya (Blue eyes) and Lyanna Mormont killing the giant was 100% fan service but enjoyed it none the less.

Most deaths seemed to be to protect someone else (Ed for Sam, Beric for Arya, Theon for Bran, Jorah for Daenerys)

Actually enjoyed that there was chaos. At different stages The Hound, Arya etc. looked like they could give up and be overwhelmed.

Liked that it was Arya and not Jon to kill the Night King. Jon was clean useless btw, running into trouble again and shouting at the dragon yoke at the end.

Apparently the second dragon survived as can be seen in trailer for the next episode.

Looking forward to Cersei's downfall, still think Daenerys could go mad yet.
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Post by: screenexile on April 30, 2019, 03:46:31 PM
Enjoyed it, thought it portrayed the chaos pretty well. However still felt somewhat unsatisfied, the ending of the Night King seemed contradictory to his abilities and annoyed me a bit as did all the major players surviving....still bloody hooked though...

Him surviving the dragon fire surprised me I must say although as with you I expected a few bigger names to be cut down at least one of the Starks and a Lannister!

The Melisandre thing confused me why was she coming from the North where had she been?

Her contributions were a bit lame too - although the lighting (and extinguishing) of the sword of the Dhotraki hoards made for a great scene - it didn't help them very much in the battle and lighting the trench only held the wights back for about 5 mins...but i suppose she did give an important pep talk to Arya.

I thought the death of the Night King was good. There was quite a few important points in that scene, the significance of the knife, stabbing him in the heart - the only place that would kill him,  Arya dropping and catching the knife like she had done in her spar with Brienne. The Night King could only really be killed in some sort of ambush - it would have been too corny for Jon Snow or anyone else to beat him in a one to one battle as he clearly had too many skills. I just wonder what his ZZ top tribute band of generals were doing when Arya sneaked up on him.

Could she have been one of them??!!
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Post by: nrico2006 on April 30, 2019, 04:05:51 PM
2 dragons are fine.  Lots could happen though.  Khalesi could turn on John or she could go mad.  Arya, Jaime or Tyrion have long been identified as the ones to take out Cersei.  Even questions over whether Arya is Arya anymore.  Bran was useless, expected more from him - is he the lord of light? 
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Post by: tbrick18 on April 30, 2019, 05:22:10 PM
2 dragons are fine.  Lots could happen though.  Khalesi could turn on John or she could go mad.  Arya, Jaime or Tyrion have long been identified as the ones to take out Cersei.  Even questions over whether Arya is Arya anymore. Bran was useless, expected more from him - is he the lord of light?

Bran was useless. Where did he go?
Jon was a bit useless too.

I think Jaimie will kill Cersei and be killed in the process. And I think Jon will kill Dany as she's going mental and will try to kill him. When she dies the Dragons will die too.
Jon doesn't want to be king so wont tell anyone he's a Targ.
Leaving Gendry as the heir to the throne as the last Baratheon and Arya his queen. The kids will be brutal. Hotpie to get a job in the royal kitchens.
Sansa and Tyrion will shack up as wards of the north.
Bronn of the blackwater will show up to kill Tyrion, but realise he likes him too much so will stay in winterfell as there's a shortage of men now to satisfy the needs of all the whores.
Brienne will finally fall for Giantsbane.
Sam will take Gilly and the kid home and set up shop as lord of the manor.
Greyworm and Mesandre go travelling.
In an unpredictable twist, Podrick is going to shack up with Varys (who's not really a Eunuch, he was just pretending).
Bran is going to Warg into himself in the past whilst warging into himself in the future and get stuck in permanent warg mode.

I love all the theories and rumours going round about who is going to kill who and so on. Thought I'd have my own go at it.

You heard it here first. :)
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Post by: nrico2006 on April 30, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
Arya, masquerading as Jaime, to kill Cersei.
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on April 30, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.
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Post by: nrico2006 on May 01, 2019, 08:10:33 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I was disappointed and would have the Battle of the b**tards way ahead of this episode.
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Post by: trailer on May 01, 2019, 08:44:43 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I was disappointed and would have the Battle of the b**tards way ahead of this episode.

+1 Thinking about this since. The plot of the battle was completely unrealistic. Jon actually surviving after a couple hundred of the dead going at him, Jamie stuck against the wall for going on 10 -15 mins, Sam on the ground. All filmed on a calculator using a match as a lighting tool. Not for me I'm afraid.



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Post by: BennyHarp on May 01, 2019, 08:54:01 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.
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Post by: Frank_The_Tank on May 01, 2019, 09:14:44 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Read a different theory that Arya used faceless man white Walker face to get close to the NK to kill him.  Also read a theory on reddit that Bran is the lord of light.
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Post by: trailer on May 01, 2019, 09:32:07 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Well that's pretty cool, but they should've showed that.
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Post by: BennyHarp on May 01, 2019, 09:48:29 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Well that's pretty cool, but they should've showed that.

I suppose showing it would have reduced the impact / shock moment of Arya jumping from nowhere.
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 01, 2019, 09:52:35 AM
Am I the only one who preferred the red wedding and winter coming for House Frey to the battle
Of winterfell and battle of the b**tards?

Interesting theory on JS distracting the dragon cause he was red rotten otherwise, Dany too, they did f**k all with the two dragons
Didn’t like that Sam and Jamie seemed to be swamped by wights for ages, if there was so many they’d be dead
The hound had a mental breakdown for no reason, the Mountain will destroy him
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 01, 2019, 10:08:45 AM
I think the theory of Ayra being a faceless man and taking on a white walkers face is probably the most convincing.  I reckon that the reason the show ended so abruptly was to maybe leave these questions hanging to be tied up next week...old fashioned cliff hanger stuff...

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Post by: BennyHarp on May 01, 2019, 10:40:25 AM
Am I the only one who preferred the red wedding and winter coming for House Frey to the battle
Of winterfell and battle of the b**tards?

Interesting theory on JS distracting the dragon cause he was red rotten otherwise, Dany too, they did f**k all with the two dragons
Didn’t like that Sam and Jamie seemed to be swamped by wights for ages, if there was so many they’d be dead
The hound had a mental breakdown for no reason, the Mountain will destroy him

The Hound’s break down was due to his fear of fire relating to his feud with his brother The Mountain - a storyline to be resolved later I assume.
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 01, 2019, 11:00:45 AM
I don’t think it was though, cause the red lady had already lit all the Dhotraki swords and he was grand. He just said it was cause they didn’t have a hope
If the theory about Bran being the Lord of Light is true and JS, Beric and the hound are all fire wights having been brought back from the dead
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Post by: gander on May 01, 2019, 11:13:22 AM
I don’t think it was though, cause the red lady had already lit all the Dhotraki swords and he was grand. He just said it was cause they didn’t have a hope
If the theory about Bran being the Lord of Light is true and JS, Beric and the hound are all fire wights having been brought back from the dead
hound wasnt brought back from the dead tho was he?
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Post by: lurganblue on May 01, 2019, 11:39:46 AM
Am not sure the budget for this fight but it was written very poorly. Filmed shocking dark, and in general the last 3/4season build up to Jon Snow night King face off didn't materialise. Pure crap then you compare the legendary night fight at Helms deep in LOTR. Lighting the biggest issue.

I didn't get this at the time but apparently the dead dragon was protecting the Garden where The Night King was going for Bran. Jon couldn't get past it and the bit where he jumped in front of the dragon and appeared to just shout at it, was in fact him distracting the dragon shouting "go" so that Arya could run past into the garden. A few seconds later it cuts to one of the long haired generals and a slight gust of wind blowing his hair, which was apparently Arya running past him to jump the Night King. So Jon did in fact sacrafice his life in order to enable Arya to kill the Night King.

Brilliant.  I just re-watched that scene and I couldn't argue with this.
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Post by: maddog on May 01, 2019, 11:42:56 AM
I don’t think it was though, cause the red lady had already lit all the Dhotraki swords and he was grand. He just said it was cause they didn’t have a hope
If the theory about Bran being the Lord of Light is true and JS, Beric and the hound are all fire wights having been brought back from the dead
hound wasnt brought back from the dead tho was he?

Its a while back in the show but is there a possibility he actually died after the dust up with Brienne ? Can't remember well enough the detail but think Ayra denied him a mercy killing but just left him out there.
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Post by: gander on May 02, 2019, 08:54:07 AM
I don’t think it was though, cause the red lady had already lit all the Dhotraki swords and he was grand. He just said it was cause they didn’t have a hope
If the theory about Bran being the Lord of Light is true and JS, Beric and the hound are all fire wights having been brought back from the dead
hound wasnt brought back from the dead tho was he?

Its a while back in the show but is there a possibility he actually died after the dust up with Brienne ? Can't remember well enough the detail but think Ayra denied him a mercy killing but just left him out there.

no he almost died but yer man from deadwood found him
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Post by: redcard on May 02, 2019, 09:57:22 AM
Season 1 Episode 8 as Tyrion and Bronn head towards Tywin Lannister's camp he says to Bronn if anyone asks him to kill him he must remember whatever the price Tyrion will double it.
I assume Bronn will remember this.
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Post by: gander on May 02, 2019, 10:37:43 AM
Season 1 Episode 8 as Tyrion and Bronn head towards Tywin Lannister's camp he says to Bronn if anyone asks him to kill him he must remember whatever the price Tyrion will double it.
I assume Bronn will remember this.

seem to be refering back to old episodes a lot this season so probably.  Plus he already has the gold
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Post by: nrico2006 on May 02, 2019, 01:11:06 PM
The hound was taking a breakdown because he felt it was hopeless trying to fight them; he was ok with the fire.
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Post by: screenexile on May 02, 2019, 03:11:02 PM
The hound was taking a breakdown because he felt it was hopeless trying to fight them; he was ok with the fire.

Well I'd say the fire didn't help his breakdown!!!
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Post by: redcard on May 03, 2019, 11:16:49 PM
The hound looked out for Sansa on a few occasions in series one. Wonder will this be acknowledged/remembered before the end of the series???
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Post by: tintin25 on May 05, 2019, 04:58:02 PM
Couple of big scenes from episode 4 leaked already
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Post by: gawa316 on May 06, 2019, 06:26:10 AM
Well more happened in that episode than I expected
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Post by: screenexile on May 06, 2019, 10:30:56 AM
Didn’t see the dragon dying so quickly there but figured something would have to happen to Greyworm and Missandei there was no way they were ending up together!!!

They’re setting Danny up to become another Mad Targeryan wonder will it happen?!

Didn’t like the Bron scene or Jamie and Brienne it didn’t seem right.
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Post by: MoChara on May 06, 2019, 11:07:37 AM
How did Danny not see a f**king big fleet of black ships coming round the corner, shes definitely being Tee'd up to go mad, I thought Emilia Clarke did a great job when begging Jon not to tell anyone he was a Targ.

The lovely thormond would never have bucked and chucked Briene the way Jamie did lol


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Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 06, 2019, 11:36:44 AM
Greyworm is going to do a John Wick next week.
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Post by: Rois on May 06, 2019, 12:10:00 PM
Although it did sadden me a little (all the coming-togethers that happened in Series 8 have been busted open), I'm glad that Arya didn't just submit to the offer - some immense female characters in this show, I love it. 

We did the exhibition in the Titanic Exhibition Centre last week - you can see some of the scenery from Kings Landing from the car park (not really part of the exhibition). 
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Post by: redcard on May 06, 2019, 01:55:16 PM
Bron hedging his bets.
The hound still has business to attend to with his brother
I think we might see Thormund and Ghost again at an opportune moment???
Arya still has the green eyes to shut though I suspect Jamie has that in mind too.
Wonder which disguise she will use???? (Perhaps the Greyjoy fella)
Varis don’t forget told little finger he wanted the iron Throne
That wizard friend of Cersai. I wouldn’t trust him if I was Cersai

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Post by: BennyHarp on May 06, 2019, 06:46:40 PM
I’m sure there are some rules of engagement in wars and all that but why did Cersei not just clean out Daenerys and the small bunch of unsullied when they were outside Kings Landing? Job done! 
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Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 06, 2019, 09:23:43 PM
Think this season a notch down on previous seasons. All too rushed. 7 seasons of a built up to the big letdown of last week.dragons tearing it up past few seasons and we down 2 within 5 espiodes. All lining up for a disappointing one finish. Hope u man Martin lives long enough to c his vision for the finish.
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Post by: nrico2006 on May 07, 2019, 12:51:15 AM
Think this season a notch down on previous seasons. All too rushed. 7 seasons of a built up to the big letdown of last week.dragons tearing it up past few seasons and we down 2 within 5 espiodes. All lining up for a disappointing one finish. Hope u man Martin lives long enough to c his vision for the finish.

Agreed. Not as good as I expected either.
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2019, 08:18:00 AM
Think this season a notch down on previous seasons. All too rushed. 7 seasons of a built up to the big letdown of last week.dragons tearing it up past few seasons and we down 2 within 5 espiodes. All lining up for a disappointing one finish. Hope u man Martin lives long enough to c his vision for the finish.

I thought it built up well in terms of the battle of Winterfell prelim etc but I was disappointed with the last episode. Sure it is a scene setter and I know they’re setting The Mother of Dragons up to go mad but I felt that more could have been done. A bit too slow paced which is ok if the tension is building but I don’t think it is.
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Post by: Walter Cronc on May 07, 2019, 08:44:45 AM
Lads any streaming sites for GoT?

Have used putlocker on the past but theres that many versions of putlocker now. Hard to know.
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Post by: tyroneman on May 07, 2019, 08:57:52 AM
I’m sure there are some rules of engagement in wars and all that but why did Cersei not just clean out Daenerys and the small bunch of unsullied when they were outside Kings Landing? Job done!

Exactly - Cersei has been pretty ruthless all the way through  - seemed a little odd she would miss out the opportunity
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Post by: screenexile on May 07, 2019, 09:24:30 AM
Lads any streaming sites for GoT?

Have used putlocker on the past but theres that many versions of putlocker now. Hard to know.

https://www2.watchmovie.io/series/game-of-thrones-season-8
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2019, 09:50:25 AM
I’m sure there are some rules of engagement in wars and all that but why did Cersei not just clean out Daenerys and the small bunch of unsullied when they were outside Kings Landing? Job done!

Exactly - Cersei has been pretty ruthless all the way through  - seemed a little odd she would miss out the opportunity

Once a Lannister always a Lannister.  I reckon with the Imp there that stayed her hand and that was clear when he walked forward and she held the archers back.  I have a feeling there is going to be a twist about Tyrion.  I don't know why but I reckon he and Varys have a huge role to play in the battle for the throne and blood is thicker than water....
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Post by: lurganblue on May 07, 2019, 03:31:03 PM
Some amount of people getting annoyed about a coffee cup ffs.  This show has gathered great deal of gimps as fans.
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Post by: omagh_gael on May 07, 2019, 05:13:24 PM
The fire Wight theory is very interesting. Did anyone notice Jon grabbing his heart after Thormund dunted him in the chest? Foreshadowing for Jon's demise?
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2019, 05:26:00 PM
The fire Wight theory is very interesting. Did anyone notice Jon grabbing his heart after Thormund dunted him in the chest? Foreshadowing for Jon's demise?

Possibly or maybe it was a reference to the fact that that was where he was stabbed when he died.

I wonder if the whole idea of the fire Wight might work with the dead dragon that they Greyjoy killed?  Maybe that is why he seems surprised when he is looking into the sun at the end of the trailer as there are 2 dragons coming at him after he had killed one? 
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Post by: omagh_gael on May 07, 2019, 06:04:16 PM
The fire Wight theory is very interesting. Did anyone notice Jon grabbing his heart after Thormund dunted him in the chest? Foreshadowing for Jon's demise?

Possibly or maybe it was a reference to the fact that that was where he was stabbed when he died.

I wonder if the whole idea of the fire Wight might work with the dead dragon that they Greyjoy killed?  Maybe that is why he seems surprised when he is looking into the sun at the end of the trailer as there are 2 dragons coming at him after he had killed one?

In theory it should as the dragon killed north of the wall was brought back so the Lord of light (Bran if this theory is correct) could bring Rayghal back.

Interestingly Tyrion mentioned the dragon seat he designed in season 2 in the last episode...could Bran ride in and feck shit up for Cersei?
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 09, 2019, 09:07:26 AM
The chance in character of Dany has been very disappointing, very clunky
I’ve not been impressed with this season at all
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Post by: nrico2006 on May 09, 2019, 10:22:12 AM
Also been mention of potential dragon offspring coming into the equation.
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Post by: oakleaflad on May 09, 2019, 10:23:14 AM
The fire Wight theory is very interesting. Did anyone notice Jon grabbing his heart after Thormund dunted him in the chest? Foreshadowing for Jon's demise?

Possibly or maybe it was a reference to the fact that that was where he was stabbed when he died.

I wonder if the whole idea of the fire Wight might work with the dead dragon that they Greyjoy killed?  Maybe that is why he seems surprised when he is looking into the sun at the end of the trailer as there are 2 dragons coming at him after he had killed one?

In theory it should as the dragon killed north of the wall was brought back so the Lord of light (Bran if this theory is correct) could bring Rayghal back.

Interestingly Tyrion mentioned the dragon seat he designed in season 2 in the last episode...could Bran ride in and feck shit up for Cersei?
Maybe i'm missing something but I always thought Brans power was more associated with the Old gods + Children of Forest as opposed to the Lord of Light.
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Post by: omagh_gael on May 10, 2019, 11:32:01 AM
Maybe all the magic in the GOT world is from the same source but named/viewed differently in different parts of the world. Lord of light eminated from Essos with Old gods etc being a Westeros belief system.
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Post by: DrinkingHarp on May 11, 2019, 05:17:15 AM
Emilia Clarke was on the Jimmy Kimmel Show and stated Episode 5 (this sunday) - have a big TV and it is incredible. Have to wait till Sunday.
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Post by: Estimator on May 13, 2019, 03:30:27 AM
That episode was a bit mental... They are struggling without the source material and are doing a very poor job of finishing out this season. The deaths of some characters are very rushed and haven't been thought out at all. Would have made more sense to kill them in the Battle of Winterfell.
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Post by: DrinkingHarp on May 13, 2019, 07:21:21 AM
Episode 5 is a big WTF.
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Post by: stephenite on May 13, 2019, 01:21:59 PM
f**king bullshit
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Post by: oakleaflad on May 13, 2019, 01:27:50 PM
I liked it. It was tense throughout and although I seen a few things coming there were others I didn't. Think a lot of people are disappointed that their favorite fan theories aren't coming true and just writing it off. Still don't know how it'll all end up either.
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Post by: stephenite on May 13, 2019, 01:50:37 PM
I’m not wedded to a particular theory - I just think the notion of burning the entire city down is pointless. She could be portrayed as mad enough without all of that. And Cersi gets to die in the arms of her lover/brother by being crushed under the weight of said city is a shite way to end one of the major plot lines and characters.
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Post by: screenexile on May 13, 2019, 02:14:55 PM
I really liked it I mean what's the point in going a bit mad?? It was right that she burned down the city!

It was relentless throughout with so much going on. Again I think there were a few things that were rushed and annoying I mean Jaime Lanister shouldn't have been walking about for so long after being stabbed twice but it was an epic and much better than the battle of Winterfell.

Sets it up for a great finale . . . Will Arya be the new Kingslayer taking down 2 Monarchs? Who did Varys' letters go to?

Next week will be interesting but still a lot to clear up in a short space of time. The finale is another hour and 20 minutes.
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Post by: JimStynes on May 13, 2019, 07:23:18 PM
Next week won't please the lads in here either.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on May 13, 2019, 10:36:54 PM
I’ve been really disappointed with this series. Far too much focus on the visuals and too little to the storylines. Cleganebowl was straight out of a poor Hollywood movie. The early series were brilliant due to the intricacies of the stories and the plot twists. This series much more predicable.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 13, 2019, 10:51:06 PM
Next week won't please the lads in here either.

Keep your spoilers out
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on May 13, 2019, 10:58:27 PM
I’ve been really disappointed with this series. Far too much focus on the visuals and too little to the storylines. Cleganebowl was straight out of a poor Hollywood movie. The early series were brilliant due to the intricacies of the stories and the plot twists. This series much more predicable.

Go on give us your prediction for next week so . . .
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on May 13, 2019, 11:03:51 PM
I liked that episode. Will Ayria kill the mad Queen and her Dragon? The Throne will be Jon's now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: BennyHarp on May 13, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
I genuinely don’t know whether I loved or hated that episode.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on May 13, 2019, 11:18:55 PM
Enjoyed that. In fact I've enjoyed this whole series and would have little to complain about. Yeah maybe episode 3 was a little to dark at times and I suppose I would have enjoyed Ceresi to have a gruesome death. Small things considering how gripping the series has continued to be. Really looking forward to next week.

I'm amazed at how difficult people are to please, or perhaps I am just easily pleased... any, each to their own.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on May 13, 2019, 11:23:29 PM
Laughing at people on twitter getting angry about the mad queen story and how out of character it was. Wtf have these people been watching for 10 years.  She has been acting like a spoilt child right from the start burning and killing people for fun over and over again. How was this episode a surprise.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on May 13, 2019, 11:36:23 PM
Really disappointed in that episode. I called the Mad Queen thing along time ago as there were many many hints at it. However, the plot was so clichéd and corny. The moment Euron came out of the water to meet Jamie and Clegane bowl had me reaching for the vomit bucket.

The whole valuquar prophecy went to shite and then fact that the dragon somehow managed to neutralise all the scorpions within minutes when last week they were sitting ducks was stupid. Also, since when has dragon flame turned into war grade explosives? Blowing out 20 feet block walls like they were made of matchsticks.

Overall, a load of shite.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on May 13, 2019, 11:55:42 PM
Really disappointed in that episode. I called the Mad Queen thing along time ago as there were many many hints at it. However, the plot was so clichéd and corny. The moment Euron came out of the water to meet Jamie and Clegane bowl had me reaching for the vomit bucket.

The whole valuquar prophecy went to shite and then fact that the dragon somehow managed to neutralise all the scorpions within minutes when last week they were sitting ducks was stupid. Also, since when has dragon flame turned into war grade explosives? Blowing out 20 feet block walls like they were made of matchsticks.

Overall, a load of shite.

You’ve gotta love GOT when people think the flames the dragon breathes are too unrealistic!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 14, 2019, 12:01:00 AM
Sure the ending already out. I the last 3 espiodes went excately as previously leaked.The ending going to have no body happy. Think I could written better myself.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on May 14, 2019, 07:21:12 AM
Sure the ending already out. I the last 3 espiodes went excately as previously leaked.The ending going to have no body happy. Think I could written better myself.

GoT is suffering to an extent from the high standards it set itself in the early series. It is becoming increasingly apparent that since the divergence from the books source material the writers are struggling to mintain the standard. I dont think the smaller number of episodes and having all the main characters in the same place has helped either. Its still very watchable but just not as good as previously.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 14, 2019, 12:57:46 PM
Really disappointed in that episode. I called the Mad Queen thing along time ago as there were many many hints at it. However, the plot was so clichéd and corny. The moment Euron came out of the water to meet Jamie and Clegane bowl had me reaching for the vomit bucket.

The whole valuquar prophecy went to shite and then fact that the dragon somehow managed to neutralise all the scorpions within minutes when last week they were sitting ducks was stupid. Also, since when has dragon flame turned into war grade explosives? Blowing out 20 feet block walls like they were made of matchsticks.

Overall, a load of shite.

Harrenhall was destroyed by dragon fire.




Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on May 14, 2019, 01:39:34 PM
Really disappointed in that episode. I called the Mad Queen thing along time ago as there were many many hints at it. However, the plot was so clichéd and corny. The moment Euron came out of the water to meet Jamie and Clegane bowl had me reaching for the vomit bucket.

The whole valuquar prophecy went to shite and then fact that the dragon somehow managed to neutralise all the scorpions within minutes when last week they were sitting ducks was stupid. Also, since when has dragon flame turned into war grade explosives? Blowing out 20 feet block walls like they were made of matchsticks.

Overall, a load of shite.

How do we know what power is coming out of a dragons mouth?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on May 14, 2019, 03:05:25 PM
As a book reader you'll be aware of Harenhall etc, however, as a show GOT stood out as it paid extreme levels of attention to things like character consistency as well as tempered levels of super powers the likes of the Night king or dragons had.

In the past the dragon's fire never blew buildings apart in that way, likewise, they were telling the story that the dragons were in poor shaoe/under fed etc in the previous episode yet last night we see Drogon tearing shit up with unlimited fire/hydrogen bomb technology.

Dont get me wrong the episode was epic in cinematography, however, it felt like each aspect of the story was finished off with a one page summary when it needed a chapter. It's out the that the DDs (show runners) were offered a ten episode run to finish it up but turned it down. Looks to me like they've fallen out of love with it since source material dried up and they're looking ahead to the big star wars trilogy they've got lined up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on May 14, 2019, 04:16:43 PM
The show is wrapping up. Storylines are finally coming to an end.  I don't really see it as being rushed.  I would much prefer this process to dragging out a few more series to make a few quid and the whole thing becoming a pile of sh*te.... see the walking dead as a prime example.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on May 14, 2019, 04:29:26 PM
The show is wrapping up. Storylines are finally coming to an end.  I don't really see it as being rushed.  I would much prefer this process to dragging out a few more series to make a few quid and the whole thing becoming a pile of sh*te.... see the walking dead as a prime example.

Or Lost, that ending really grated with me!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on May 14, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
I remember loving Heroes for the first 2 series then it just got too complicated and fizzled out . . . same with Prison Break.

GOT could have done with a few extra episodes to flesh the thing out but it's still great TV and better than anything about at the minute. Although Chernobyl made a strong start last week!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: markl121 on May 14, 2019, 05:19:43 PM
I remember loving Heroes for the first 2 series then it just got too complicated and fizzled out . . . same with Prison Break.

GOT could have done with a few extra episodes to flesh the thing out but it's still great TV and better than anything about at the minute. Although Chernobyl made a strong start last week!

season one of prison break was so good, but after they actually got out i didnt see the need for more seasons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on May 14, 2019, 07:10:58 PM
I remember loving Heroes for the first 2 series then it just got too complicated and fizzled out . . . same with Prison Break.

GOT could have done with a few extra episodes to flesh the thing out but it's still great TV and better than anything about at the minute. Although Chernobyl made a strong start last week!

Heroes got fucked by the writer's strike.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 14, 2019, 08:48:22 PM
They got the main charcter going bonkers after 3 espiodes of committing to save the north" and a love in with Jon Snow. The whole season this year reverted to a hollywood Michael bay shoot them up. With all the in depth characters all over the place. Knew things were going tits up cutting the espiodes past 2 seasons and the 2 main baddies Nightking and Cersei coming a cropper very easy after massive build ups
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2019, 10:05:19 AM
This has been a ball of sh!te to be honest. In no particular order

What was Arya’s point in the last episode? To get that woman killed? Where did the white horse come outta?
How did Jamie just flip from being happy with the knight lady to heading off to Cersei for
No real reason
The mountain v the hound, brutal
Tyrion giving up Varys?


All in all terrible
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on May 15, 2019, 10:39:38 AM
This has been a ball of sh!te to be honest. In no particular order

What was Arya’s point in the last episode? To get that woman killed? Where did the white horse come outta?
How did Jamie just flip from being happy with the knight lady to heading off to Cersei for
No real reason
The mountain v the hound, brutal
Tyrion giving up Varys?


All in all terrible

For the bit in bold - Bran maybe controlling it and sent it?

All in all a disappointing season - think the screen writers are suffering from the books not been finished and while Martin obviously has an input into them - its not the same timespan effort he put into the first few books.  I think maybe Sansa sits on the Iron throne next week?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 15, 2019, 10:41:01 AM
So haven't managed to watch any GoT's at all. But gave in and ordered the book set there for Holidays as I'll struggle to get the time to watch all the series (Translation -. Are the books as good as the hype for the TV series?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: bigarsedkeeper on May 15, 2019, 10:56:14 AM
So haven't managed to watch any GoT's at all. But gave in and ordered the book set there for Holidays as I'll struggle to get the time to watch all the series (Translation -. Are the books as good as the hype for the TV series?
I think the books are very good but there is a lot of detail to take in, especially as you get through the latter ones. It's well written but it does depend what you're into. I found the books much easier to read than say Lord of the Rings. I started reading after watching season 1 way back so had some images in my head of people and places which helped at first but you definitely don't need it. Just think Sean Bean for Ned Stark but everyone else you can fill in yourself.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: oakleaflad on May 15, 2019, 11:04:29 AM
This has been a ball of sh!te to be honest. In no particular order

What was Arya’s point in the last episode? To get that woman killed? Where did the white horse come outta?
How did Jamie just flip from being happy with the knight lady to heading off to Cersei for
No real reason
The mountain v the hound, brutal
Tyrion giving up Varys?


All in all terrible
Arya's point was that she turned away from being the assassin so that she could live a somewhat normal life. Assuming Bran could have sent the horse (though didn't like that part myself).
Jamie one is obvious. He has always loved Cersei and for him, in the end, it was only the two of them that mattered.
Mountain vs Hound was grand.
Tyrion had to give Varys up or he was a goner himself. Daenerys already knew.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on May 15, 2019, 11:26:59 AM
Saw this listed on a website. Even giving it a bye ball for certain things on the basis its a fantasy show, it highlights a few major internal inconsistencies from this episode.

1. Did Varys try to poison Daenerys?
2. Where did Varys send those letters?
3. What happened to Martha? Is Martha still alive?
4. How did Daenerys and her dragon sneak up on the Golden Company and burst through the walls of King’s Landing from the inside?
5. Since when did Tyrion become such a complete idiot? Why does he continue to appeal to Cersei’s good nature when she’s tried to kill him a dozen times?
6. Why are those scorpions worthless all of a sudden?
7. If Drogon could to do that much damage to one city, despite about 20 scorpions aimed at him, then why were the dragons functionally useless against the White Walkers?
8. In the end, what even was the point of including the Golden Company in this show?
9. How does dragonfire destroy a fortified stone wall? Does it come out with enough force to actually explode the ramparts of King’s Landing?
10. What was the point of Arya even going to King’s Landing?
11. Why burn a city to the ground that you’re trying to take?
12. Why kill everyone in King’s Landing to hurt Cersei when Cersei made it very clear she doesn’t care about anyone in King’s Landing?
13. How did that horse survive all the destruction?
14. How did Arya survive the attack?
15. How did Arya and Jaime and The Hound—three very recognizable people—so easily sneak into the impenetrable Red Keep?
16. Where did Jaime and the Hound get their matching hooded cloaks? Why are Westerosi soldiers so bad at looking under hoods?
17. If it’s that easy to get into the Red Keep why not just assassinate Cersei?
18. If Cersei’s only motivation was to protect her child, then why did she not seem to have any battle strategy whatsoever?
19. Why didn’t Cersei know the Iron Fleet had been burned? Shouldn’t she have been keeping track of that kind of stuff?
20. Why didn’t Cersei actually do anything with her wildfire? Wouldn’t that have been useful?
21. Why didn’t she have an escape plan prepared for herself and her unborn child?
22. Or why not just fly to the top of the Red Keep, assassinate Cersei with the dragon and end the war in a matter of minutes?
23. How did Euron find Jaime? What was his character motivation in trying to kill Jaime other than for writers to give him another Deus Ex Machina moment?
24. Was the Valonqar prophecy wrong?
25. What happened to the Prince That Was Promised prophecy?
26. Or the Azor Ahai prophecy?
27. Was Varys Dany’s Third Betrayal? Was Tyrion her fourth? How many betrayals has she had anyway?
28. Were all of these nothing? Or will they come into play in the final episode?
29. Wouldn’t it be far more satisfying to get revenge by killing Cersei personally rather than slaughtering a bunch of innocent people for no reason?
30. Why did The Undead Mountain look like a moldy, bloated Varys?
31. Who rang the bells?
32. Sup with Bran rn?
33. What are Sansa and Bran and Brienne and everyone doing back at Winterfell?
34. Does Arya’s horse have some special significance? Or is it just a horse?
35. Will Dany just be queen of the ashes?
36. Why didn’t Jon do anything at all in this battle or in trying to talk some sense into Dany? Or is he just so stupid and stubborn that he believed she was fine?
37. Is Dany still Jon’s queen?
38. Why was Missandei’s shackle literally her only possession? All these years of travel and she never picked up a book or keepsake? Did she have a change of clothes even?
39. Did the Mountain die, or is he just a well-done zombie now?
40. Where was Gendry?
41. Who took the time to light all those torches in the secret escape tunnels in the Red Keep?
4. Why was Cersei so sad that Jaime was hurt after she just sent an assassin to kill him?
43. Why did they put Davos in the front line of the battle? He old.
44. How did Cersei communicate a surrender to her peeps from all the way up in the tower?
45. Is the Iron Throne still standing or did it get destroyed with everything else?
46. Will Dragonstone be the new seat of power in Westeros?
47. Does this mean we now have to root for Jon to kill Dany?
48. Will Dany kill Tyrion now because he let Jaime escape? Does she even know he escaped? And why was it so easy for him to escape?
49. Why not make this season twice the number of episodes, scale back the massive, unnecessary production values and actually tell a story that fans deserve? Why not give Daenerys at least a few more episodes to show her descent into madness instead of flipping a switch on her?
50. Does this mean we have to wait however many years it takes George R.R. Martin to finish writing his damn books to get a worthwhile conclusion to this story?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2019, 12:11:37 PM
I don’t get Bran sending the horse?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 15, 2019, 01:21:33 PM
Saw this listed on a website. Even giving it a bye ball for certain things on the basis its a fantasy show, it highlights a few major internal inconsistencies from this episode.

1. Did Varys try to poison Daenerys?
2. Where did Varys send those letters?
3. What happened to Martha? Is Martha still alive?
4. How did Daenerys and her dragon sneak up on the Golden Company and burst through the walls of King’s Landing from the inside?
5. Since when did Tyrion become such a complete idiot? Why does he continue to appeal to Cersei’s good nature when she’s tried to kill him a dozen times?
6. Why are those scorpions worthless all of a sudden?
7. If Drogon could to do that much damage to one city, despite about 20 scorpions aimed at him, then why were the dragons functionally useless against the White Walkers?
8. In the end, what even was the point of including the Golden Company in this show?
9. How does dragonfire destroy a fortified stone wall? Does it come out with enough force to actually explode the ramparts of King’s Landing?
10. What was the point of Arya even going to King’s Landing?
11. Why burn a city to the ground that you’re trying to take?
12. Why kill everyone in King’s Landing to hurt Cersei when Cersei made it very clear she doesn’t care about anyone in King’s Landing?
13. How did that horse survive all the destruction?
14. How did Arya survive the attack?
15. How did Arya and Jaime and The Hound—three very recognizable people—so easily sneak into the impenetrable Red Keep?
16. Where did Jaime and the Hound get their matching hooded cloaks? Why are Westerosi soldiers so bad at looking under hoods?
17. If it’s that easy to get into the Red Keep why not just assassinate Cersei?
18. If Cersei’s only motivation was to protect her child, then why did she not seem to have any battle strategy whatsoever?
19. Why didn’t Cersei know the Iron Fleet had been burned? Shouldn’t she have been keeping track of that kind of stuff?
20. Why didn’t Cersei actually do anything with her wildfire? Wouldn’t that have been useful?
21. Why didn’t she have an escape plan prepared for herself and her unborn child?
22. Or why not just fly to the top of the Red Keep, assassinate Cersei with the dragon and end the war in a matter of minutes?
23. How did Euron find Jaime? What was his character motivation in trying to kill Jaime other than for writers to give him another Deus Ex Machina moment?
24. Was the Valonqar prophecy wrong?
25. What happened to the Prince That Was Promised prophecy?
26. Or the Azor Ahai prophecy?
27. Was Varys Dany’s Third Betrayal? Was Tyrion her fourth? How many betrayals has she had anyway?
28. Were all of these nothing? Or will they come into play in the final episode?
29. Wouldn’t it be far more satisfying to get revenge by killing Cersei personally rather than slaughtering a bunch of innocent people for no reason?
30. Why did The Undead Mountain look like a moldy, bloated Varys?
31. Who rang the bells?
32. Sup with Bran rn?
33. What are Sansa and Bran and Brienne and everyone doing back at Winterfell?
34. Does Arya’s horse have some special significance? Or is it just a horse?
35. Will Dany just be queen of the ashes?
36. Why didn’t Jon do anything at all in this battle or in trying to talk some sense into Dany? Or is he just so stupid and stubborn that he believed she was fine?
37. Is Dany still Jon’s queen?
38. Why was Missandei’s shackle literally her only possession? All these years of travel and she never picked up a book or keepsake? Did she have a change of clothes even?
39. Did the Mountain die, or is he just a well-done zombie now?
40. Where was Gendry?
41. Who took the time to light all those torches in the secret escape tunnels in the Red Keep?
4. Why was Cersei so sad that Jaime was hurt after she just sent an assassin to kill him?
43. Why did they put Davos in the front line of the battle? He old.
44. How did Cersei communicate a surrender to her peeps from all the way up in the tower?
45. Is the Iron Throne still standing or did it get destroyed with everything else?
46. Will Dragonstone be the new seat of power in Westeros?
47. Does this mean we now have to root for Jon to kill Dany?
48. Will Dany kill Tyrion now because he let Jaime escape? Does she even know he escaped? And why was it so easy for him to escape?
49. Why not make this season twice the number of episodes, scale back the massive, unnecessary production values and actually tell a story that fans deserve? Why not give Daenerys at least a few more episodes to show her descent into madness instead of flipping a switch on her?
50. Does this mean we have to wait however many years it takes George R.R. Martin to finish writing his damn books to get a worthwhile conclusion to this story?


51. Whoever wrote that needs a life
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: oakleaflad on May 15, 2019, 01:25:51 PM
Yeah. Almost all of those are, as of yet, unanswered questions as opposed to inconsistencies also.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on May 15, 2019, 02:03:04 PM
Saw this listed on a website. Even giving it a bye ball for certain things on the basis its a fantasy show, it highlights a few major internal inconsistencies from this episode.

1. Did Varys try to poison Daenerys?
2. Where did Varys send those letters?
3. What happened to Martha? Is Martha still alive?
4. How did Daenerys and her dragon sneak up on the Golden Company and burst through the walls of King’s Landing from the inside?
5. Since when did Tyrion become such a complete idiot? Why does he continue to appeal to Cersei’s good nature when she’s tried to kill him a dozen times?
6. Why are those scorpions worthless all of a sudden?
7. If Drogon could to do that much damage to one city, despite about 20 scorpions aimed at him, then why were the dragons functionally useless against the White Walkers?
8. In the end, what even was the point of including the Golden Company in this show?
9. How does dragonfire destroy a fortified stone wall? Does it come out with enough force to actually explode the ramparts of King’s Landing?
10. What was the point of Arya even going to King’s Landing?
11. Why burn a city to the ground that you’re trying to take?
12. Why kill everyone in King’s Landing to hurt Cersei when Cersei made it very clear she doesn’t care about anyone in King’s Landing?
13. How did that horse survive all the destruction?
14. How did Arya survive the attack?
15. How did Arya and Jaime and The Hound—three very recognizable people—so easily sneak into the impenetrable Red Keep?
16. Where did Jaime and the Hound get their matching hooded cloaks? Why are Westerosi soldiers so bad at looking under hoods?
17. If it’s that easy to get into the Red Keep why not just assassinate Cersei?
18. If Cersei’s only motivation was to protect her child, then why did she not seem to have any battle strategy whatsoever?
19. Why didn’t Cersei know the Iron Fleet had been burned? Shouldn’t she have been keeping track of that kind of stuff?
20. Why didn’t Cersei actually do anything with her wildfire? Wouldn’t that have been useful?
21. Why didn’t she have an escape plan prepared for herself and her unborn child?
22. Or why not just fly to the top of the Red Keep, assassinate Cersei with the dragon and end the war in a matter of minutes?
23. How did Euron find Jaime? What was his character motivation in trying to kill Jaime other than for writers to give him another Deus Ex Machina moment?
24. Was the Valonqar prophecy wrong?
25. What happened to the Prince That Was Promised prophecy?
26. Or the Azor Ahai prophecy?
27. Was Varys Dany’s Third Betrayal? Was Tyrion her fourth? How many betrayals has she had anyway?
28. Were all of these nothing? Or will they come into play in the final episode?
29. Wouldn’t it be far more satisfying to get revenge by killing Cersei personally rather than slaughtering a bunch of innocent people for no reason?
30. Why did The Undead Mountain look like a moldy, bloated Varys?
31. Who rang the bells?
32. Sup with Bran rn?
33. What are Sansa and Bran and Brienne and everyone doing back at Winterfell?
34. Does Arya’s horse have some special significance? Or is it just a horse?
35. Will Dany just be queen of the ashes?
36. Why didn’t Jon do anything at all in this battle or in trying to talk some sense into Dany? Or is he just so stupid and stubborn that he believed she was fine?
37. Is Dany still Jon’s queen?
38. Why was Missandei’s shackle literally her only possession? All these years of travel and she never picked up a book or keepsake? Did she have a change of clothes even?
39. Did the Mountain die, or is he just a well-done zombie now?
40. Where was Gendry?
41. Who took the time to light all those torches in the secret escape tunnels in the Red Keep?
4. Why was Cersei so sad that Jaime was hurt after she just sent an assassin to kill him?
43. Why did they put Davos in the front line of the battle? He old.
44. How did Cersei communicate a surrender to her peeps from all the way up in the tower?
45. Is the Iron Throne still standing or did it get destroyed with everything else?
46. Will Dragonstone be the new seat of power in Westeros?
47. Does this mean we now have to root for Jon to kill Dany?
48. Will Dany kill Tyrion now because he let Jaime escape? Does she even know he escaped? And why was it so easy for him to escape?
49. Why not make this season twice the number of episodes, scale back the massive, unnecessary production values and actually tell a story that fans deserve? Why not give Daenerys at least a few more episodes to show her descent into madness instead of flipping a switch on her?
50. Does this mean we have to wait however many years it takes George R.R. Martin to finish writing his damn books to get a worthwhile conclusion to this story?

I bet this person is some craic.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 15, 2019, 06:58:11 PM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on May 15, 2019, 07:11:08 PM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

Huh? The warning is that there are Spoilers in the thread? If you have any info on the ending get yourself down the bookies  ;) ;)

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/heres-what-betting-odds-are-predicting-for-the-game-of-thrones-finale-2488183
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 15, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

don't be a ****
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: BennyHarp on May 15, 2019, 11:20:04 PM
I’m surprised Bronn’s role in the whole story has been so limited this season. Or maybe he has a role to play yet? Perhaps killing Tyrion if he somehow manages to be the hand to Daenerys (or possibly Jon) and goes back on his word regarding High Garden.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on May 20, 2019, 03:10:08 AM
Tab clear, keep this up and I tell you the end before Sunday for pure badness. There's a warning for the spoilers on the thread after all

Huh? The warning is that there are Spoilers in the thread? If you have any info on the ending get yourself down the bookies  ;) ;)

https://www.nme.com/news/tv/heres-what-betting-odds-are-predicting-for-the-game-of-thrones-finale-2488183

f**king bookies are never too far wrong!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Rois on May 20, 2019, 06:04:15 AM
We got up to watch it at 2am and have to say, it didn’t keep me from falling asleep afterwards as I feared. Ending was actually fine by me, if rushed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: DrinkingHarp on May 20, 2019, 06:23:11 AM
I read the books around 2001 - it was cool seeing the actors, scenery and battles compared to what I pictured. The books are obviously better but this series was excellent from begining to end.  Will the last episode meet with everyones expectations? No. It seems writing an ending is more difficult then the meat and bones of a series. That said, I really enjoyed the last episode.

I can see two to four spinoffs from the series which I believe have been talked about already. This is a cash cow for HBO and the actors, why stop now.

The deaths, punishements and decisions this last episode all seemed just and tied in some earlier story lines.

I liked it!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on May 20, 2019, 06:44:17 AM
Well that’s, that then
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: bennydorano on May 20, 2019, 04:19:22 PM
An ordinary ending for an extraordinary series, but I enjoyed it all.

Hope there's spin offs, someone was convincingly telling me last week there's a prequel about the Mad King era in production already? Haven't investigated tbh. Ayra going East could be very interesting and is a blank canvas.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on May 20, 2019, 04:24:24 PM
An ordinary ending for an extraordinary series, but I enjoyed it all.

Hope there's spin offs, someone was convincingly telling me last week there's a prequel about the Mad King era in production already? Haven't investigated tbh. Ayra going East could be very interesting and is a blank canvas.

Yes!!! I get it now . . . didn't make sense to me at half 3 this morning!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Chicago Hurling on May 20, 2019, 05:25:00 PM
An ordinary ending for an extraordinary series, but I enjoyed it all.

Hope there's spin offs, someone was convincingly telling me last week there's a prequel about the Mad King era in production already? Haven't investigated tbh. Ayra going East could be very interesting and is a blank canvas.

Pretty sure two of them are Roberts rebellion, and the long night. Could see Arya going west be the third if she wants her own show but thought she was getting involved with marvel's X-men stuff like Sophie
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on May 21, 2019, 08:46:58 AM
Yeah well that's that. Hard to know how to finish it. Definitely disappointed with Tyrion not proposing Jon to be King. Overall one of the best TV series' ever.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on May 21, 2019, 09:57:51 AM
This woman has done her own version of season 8 - https://www.aliceshipwise.com/gameofthrones/archive

Havent read it but have read users on reddit saying it is better than what HBO produced.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on May 21, 2019, 10:43:19 AM
All done and dusted then. 5 survivors from episode 1 to the last Episode, the Starks and Tyrion.

All in all  I thought it was a reasonable wrap up. There were parts of it that were a bit "meh" (Jamie's golden hand in the rubble.. ::) ::)) but it did bring most storylines together. John killing Dany had been widely predicted (prophesised?) but I thought there might have been one major twist somewhere which just didnt happen. As an overall comment I thought the fewer but longer episodes format  did not work in the last two series. An awful lot seemed to happen off screen the last two seasons and some really good character stories  suffered as a result. Bronn and Varys spring to mind immediately.

Arya looks like she will get her spinoff at some point and the prequels should be good watching.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on May 21, 2019, 01:03:33 PM
All done and dusted then. 5 survivors from episode 1 to the last Episode, the Starks and Tyrion.

All in all  I thought it was a reasonable wrap up. There were parts of it that were a bit "meh" (Jamie's golden hand in the rubble.. ::) ::)) but it did bring most storylines together. John killing Dany had been widely predicted (prophesised?) but I thought there might have been one major twist somewhere which just didnt happen. As an overall comment I thought the fewer but longer episodes format  did not work in the last two series. An awful lot seemed to happen off screen the last two seasons and some really good character stories  suffered as a result. Bronn and Varys spring to mind immediately.

Arya looks like she will get her spinoff at some point and the prequels should be good watching.
Thought it was fine. John and Dany ruling together would have been typical holywood crap, this ending is a bit more realistic. Still think a number of things and characters were skipped over as mentioned including Bran and all his powers. Was fully expecting at the end dead bodies in the snow as evidence the walkers are still about but no
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: thebigfella on May 21, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
They should have killed grey worm in the end. He just become annoying.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on May 21, 2019, 02:32:35 PM
They should have killed grey worm in the end. He just become annoying.

+1
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: dec on May 21, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
Have any of you read the books?

I read the first book and the tv series followed it pretty closely. I have seen comments that later on the books and series diverge for some characters.

One avid book fan I know was not too impressed with the changes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on May 21, 2019, 04:49:28 PM
Yeah I've read the books.  There are a right few changes. Big characters still alive in the books who had been killed off at that point in the TV series.  I always passed that type of thing off as, "sure GRRM was probably just planning to kill them off at a later date".

I thought the ending was grand. Greyworm did become very annoying and it would have been nice to see him and John have a wee fight at the end.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: oakleaflad on May 21, 2019, 04:55:53 PM
Saw an interview one time with GRRM and he said that Littlefinger was the character who was most different from the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on May 21, 2019, 05:43:01 PM
An ordinary ending for an extraordinary series, but I enjoyed it all.

Hope there's spin offs, someone was convincingly telling me last week there's a prequel about the Mad King era in production already? Haven't investigated tbh. Ayra going East could be very interesting and is a blank canvas.

Yes!!! I get it now . . . didn't make sense to me at half 3 this morning!!

Except she's going west.

That was an absolute travesty of an episode to round off a travesty of a season. None of it made sense. Absolute pish.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on May 21, 2019, 06:59:23 PM
What was the point of the build up and reveal that Jon was a Targaryen with that ending?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on May 21, 2019, 08:34:57 PM
What was the point of the build up and reveal that Jon was a Targaryen with that ending?

What was the point in all the episodes wasted on Brann, he was useless.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: SLIGONIAN on May 21, 2019, 08:35:51 PM
The white horse was Shadowfax and clearly Ayra is going east into a Middle Earth/Westoros spin off.  8)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: NotedObserver on May 21, 2019, 09:47:13 PM
The white horse was Shadowfax and clearly Ayra is going east into a Middle Earth/Westoros spin off.  8)

Awful lot of similarities with LOTR
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 21, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
The white horse was Shadowfax and clearly Ayra is going east into a Middle Earth/Westoros spin off.  8)

Awful lot of similarities with LOTR

John snow clearly modelled on Aragorn even down to the style of his armour which was very like the armour in Return of the King I thought. Also the cinematography was very Star Wars -esque(I know they are involved in SW but still...). It was a good closing though and opens up the door for spin offs etc.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trileacman on May 21, 2019, 11:03:53 PM
They should have killed grey worm in the end. He just become annoying.

Seen a quote on twitter from someone who said they were delighted to see greyworm survive because he was black.  ::)

Isn't it wonderful that the survival of a fictional black character in fantasy magic dragon show can ameliorate the centuries of injustice. FFS this world is cowped.