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General discussion / Re: Papal Visit to Ireland
« on: August 27, 2018, 05:05:41 PM »
That is not in line with the findings of PA, so stop talking bullshit. Over 1000 children - children - were found by the grand jury report to have been abused by priests, with the vast majority of abuse beginning before their teens.

But don't let that stop you or your Bishop politicizing that to promote an anti-gay agenda.

Clowns, but thankfully obsolete clowns.

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General discussion / Re: Papal Visit to Ireland
« on: August 27, 2018, 04:37:06 PM »
So they don't actually relate specifically to the Pennsylvania report?

That is either spectacularly careless or spectacularly dishonest.

The Bishop's first "quote" says that victims were in the main male - to obviously advance an anti homosexual agenda - before he contradicts himself by saying that they ranged from prepubescent to young seminarians. In other words, children, teenagers and young men. So the vast majority of victims were under the age of consent and the others looked young.

And his second quote was in relation to a 2011 study.

The church is too busy demonising homosexuals to actually go after paedophiles.

Very, very dishonest Iceman. Very disappointing on your part.

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General discussion / Re: Papal Visit to Ireland
« on: August 27, 2018, 04:10:41 PM »
Can you tell me where the sentences in quotation marks came from? If they are directly from the report, could you cite the pages or a link?


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General discussion / Re: Papal Visit to Ireland
« on: August 27, 2018, 03:18:24 PM »
Iceman, I think you should clear up your language. You may think homosexuality is sinful, and it is certainly against the doctrine of the Church you belong to - but it should not be equated - in any way - with paedophilia.

If that is not your intent, fair enough.

What happened in Pennsylvania was an absolute orgy of depravity, rape and vicious assault - carried out by paedophiles. Some of the things described in the report speak to an unspeakable cruelty in the perpetrators. If you read about the same happening in a wartime concentration camp, you could - just about - rationalise its existence. For this to be still happening, in a modern, secular democracy is mind bending.

The church will not be renewed or purified until the culture of secrecy is removed. That culture will never be gone, no matter what procedures re child protection are put in, until the Church faces up to the reality of human sexuality. Perhaps when we have married priests, mature and comfortable in discussing and accepting human sexuality, including LGBTQ, then the Church will no longer be a breeding ground for these twisted, immature monsters.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
« on: August 23, 2018, 01:56:14 PM »
I thought the punishment was against Carnacon because the charge was that Carnacon the club coerced all its members to leave the panel (for whatever reason). That's why the charge is about bringing the game into disrepute.

Rule 193 is a joke, but I don't think that's what the club is banned for.

The player themselves, as individuals, are not banned, is that correct?

You are right AZ, the journo from Mayo last night, McGreal, made that point - it wasn't individual players leaving a panel, it was done (allegedly) at the instigation of the club, and as such it could be judged as bringing the game into disrepute. The individuals are not banned but the club is - though effectively it is both.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
« on: August 23, 2018, 01:53:26 PM »
I was listening to this on Off the Ball last night, and I thought yer man Joe was ridiculous. He completely prejudged the County Board position. Why would anyone from the board be interested in giving their views when he has already declared that he thinks they are eejits? Not the first time he has done this. Good presenter- but a very, very poor journalist.

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GAA Discussion / Re: End of an Era
« on: August 23, 2018, 12:38:52 PM »
Hedigans by Cross Guns Bridge - always was a great spot.

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GAA Discussion / Re: DUBLIN V REST OF IRELAND
« on: August 17, 2018, 10:24:52 AM »
That is a seriously stupid article. If we're gonna talk about wasted money, we should start with the Indo.

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What about " We Don't Need Nobody Else" by Whipping Boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NqJ8t02Y0

Great tune but incredibly dodgy lyrics (in today's context)

I hit you for the first time today
I didn't mean it
It just happened
You wouldn't let me go to the phone
You wanted to make love and I did not
Now I know the distance between us
Christ we weren't even fighting, I was just annoyed
Silence and you started to cry, that really hurt you said
Yeah and you thought you knew me


At the time they were critical darlings, I remember a big article in the Melody Maker praising their honesty. I don't think you would get away with writing a song from the point of a domestic abuser today. I don't know if that is an advance or not, because it is a great (but difficult) song.



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I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


Are you sure about that?

2015 beat Mayo by after a replay in the semi final and beat Kerry by 3 point in a drab AI final
2016 Beat Kerry by 2 points in the semi final and beat Mayo by one in the AI final after a replay

Kerry and Mayo are now in transition while I don't think we have seen the best of Dublin yet especially in AI final.

The three point win over Kerry in that "drab" game was our most dominant performance in an All Ireland final this decade (and also our most dominant performance over Kerry)

2016 semi final against Kerry was up there with the 2013 semi as one of the games of the decade - after that, I believe Mayo were unlucky not to get the win in the first game in 2016, and I don't think since then we have produced a performance to match Kerry 2015/2016 (I really think that the semi last year v tyrone was as much them not performing as it was us being good).




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I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin V Donegal
« on: July 04, 2018, 02:37:10 PM »
I'm not going to get into the rights or wrongs of Dublin's use of Croke Park or the supposed advantages that it gives - I've done it before, everyone knows each others views on this and there is no need to jump on the carousel.

However, the way this phase of the competition has been formulated is flawed, fatally, I would say. Whatever about the reality of competitive advantages accrued, or the reality that Dublin have the largest support etc etc, the perception of unfairness is as dangerous to the integrity of the competition as actual unfairness.

As was pointed out earlier, Congress makes the rules, and the CCCC implements them but the DCB should make it clear, very quickly, that they are open to any solution that means they play only once in Croke Park during the Super 8 series.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 03, 2018, 12:30:49 PM »
Newbridge a kip in 1993? What are you on about? Which other grounds had you been to? It's rundown now in comparison to other grounds but in 1993, it would have been more than acceptable. You take all this in from the pitch? The dressing rooms were too small. Accepted. Rest of it was fine. Relatively speaking.

I was shoved into the wall there in an u21 game in 93 or 94. Bad cess to that poxy wall.

There was warfare at the end of our game there, we had been given a good hockeying by St. Ciaran's and our 17 year old, full stache sporting captain started a load of hassle at the final whistle. One of our selectors  grabbed him, threw him over the wall and dragged him back to the dressing rooms, kicking the door closed behind the two of them.

He definitely thought the dressing room was too small at that stage.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 11:36:31 PM »
Can I just say, whilst I support Kildare's right to play at home, and I'm glad the match went off without a hitch, it is the job of these committees to anticipate risk. The big fear in Croke Park is not that Sky doesn't get the fixture it wants or that they don't sell enough tickets for the All Ireland series - it is that a person or people will be seriously injured whilst on GAA property.

We already know why they stamped out pitch invasions in Croke Park - because every eejit who turned his ankle hopping a barrier was suing the organisation and getting paid. That is not Peter McKenna's money, or Feargal McGill's - that is your money, my money, every member's money.

Worse than that, what happens if a catastrophe occurs in a small stadium with narrow access in front of the stand (which I believe was the case in St. Conleth's)? Or in the Hyde, where there is only one point of egress from the main stand?

The complacency (smugness??) of GAA fans in this respect is hard to credit. We jump on the nearest high horse at the merest suggestion of fan trouble, but events like the Bradford city fire happened because of a dropped cigarette. Crushes and stampedes can happen from someone tripping up in the wrong place, it doesn't take battalion charges of hooligans or hordes of ticketless zombies outside.

So what prevents these events happening? Most of us would like to pat each other on the back and say, well, GAA fans are different from every other sport. The real reason is committees like the CCCC and those who sit on it, making hard decisions and getting very little thanks for it.

They are allowed to get ones wrong (which I think they did in this case, more through poor communications than anything else). But if I'm on a committee and I'm tasked with making decisions where, if the wrong move is made, it could end up with a fan ending up injured, paralysed or dead, you're damn sure I'll stay on the side of caution. Because I don't see anyone else lining up to make those decisions.

And they certainly don't deserve to be portrayed as some sort of aristocratic elite by Madame Gulliotine herself, Ewan McKenna. The same sort of rabble rousing, know nothing, populist crap that is giving nothing to the world but dementia.

Rant over.

Wrong on that part, there is a huge amount of room in front of the stand in Newbridge. In fact there is very little that can be considered a H&S hazard there. The wall and rails around the pitch will not be missed after redevelopment and the dressing rooms are pathetic but in every other department Newbridge is adequate.
Navan on the other hand has a stand that is a lot more dangerous than it's grass banks, I am shocked someone hasn't fell and broke their necks going down it yet. It will make a nice ground when done up. Hopefully they don't do something stupid like make it an all seater.

I haven't been in conleths since i played a schools leinster quarte final there in 93. And it was a proper kip then.

I heard the above quoted as a problem on Off The Ball, so apologies if it is not the case. I don't think the specifics of what is actually wrong witb the place changes the thrust of my arguments above though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Power struggle within Croke Park?
« on: July 02, 2018, 11:31:45 PM »
Can I just say, whilst I support Kildare's right to play at home, and I'm glad the match went off without a hitch, it is the job of these committees to anticipate risk. The big fear in Croke Park is not that Sky doesn't get the fixture it wants or that they don't sell enough tickets for the All Ireland series - it is that a person or people will be seriously injured whilst on GAA property.

We already know why they stamped out pitch invasions in Croke Park - because every eejit who turned his ankle hopping a barrier was suing the organisation and getting paid. That is not Peter McKenna's money, or Feargal McGill's - that is your money, my money, every member's money.

Worse than that, what happens if a catastrophe occurs in a small stadium with narrow access in front of the stand (which I believe was the case in St. Conleth's)? Or in the Hyde, where there is only one point of egress from the main stand?

The complacency (smugness??) of GAA fans in this respect is hard to credit. We jump on the nearest high horse at the merest suggestion of fan trouble, but events like the Bradford city fire happened because of a dropped cigarette. Crushes and stampedes can happen from someone tripping up in the wrong place, it doesn't take battalion charges of hooligans or hordes of ticketless zombies outside.

So what prevents these events happening? Most of us would like to pat each other on the back and say, well, GAA fans are different from every other sport. The real reason is committees like the CCCC and those who sit on it, making hard decisions and getting very little thanks for it.

They are allowed to get ones wrong (which I think they did in this case, more through poor communications than anything else). But if I'm on a committee and I'm tasked with making decisions where, if the wrong move is made, it could end up with a fan ending up injured, paralysed or dead, you're damn sure I'll stay on the side of caution. Because I don't see anyone else lining up to make those decisions.

And they certainly don't deserve to be portrayed as some sort of aristocratic elite by Madame Gulliotine herself, Ewan McKenna. The same sort of rabble rousing, know nothing, populist crap that is giving nothing to the world but dementia.

Rant over.

Can you provide evidence or links so i can see all these claims in Croke Park over the years?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7769042.stm

That is from 2010 when they started phasing out pitch invasions

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