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GAA Discussion / Re: Premium sports fiasco
« on: September 16, 2013, 11:54:27 AM »
they own the rights for the League in 2014 - the new rights package always kicks in after the League is done.

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GAA Discussion / Re: GPA's latest scam
« on: September 14, 2013, 12:39:23 PM »
I hope I didn't come across as outraged but why should we settle for daft, when with a bit of forethought and consultation, we could immeasurably improve what is a brilliant promotional opportunity. I don't care if the North American board is put out, what annoys me is this presentation of a fait accompli, when most hurling people here and in American would question the usefulness of these new rules.

I'd also ask where is Pat Daly in all of this? Is anyone just allowed come up with a hare-brained hybrid and then bowl away with the GAA's approval? We should promote as a means to protecting the future and the heritage we already have in hurling. Nothing against the free style hurling though - think that is a very good initiative.

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GAA Discussion / Re: GPA's latest scam
« on: September 13, 2013, 01:17:09 PM »
I don't have much of an opinion on the politics of the thing - in general i think Donal Og has as much a right as any to promote hurling in any part of the world, and that his star wattage can only be a good thing - but...and it is a big but....if you're going to promote hurling, promote hurling.

Read these rules and was baffled by the motivation of coming up with rules for what is essentially a new game, to promote another game. As said above, what happens if it actually works, and new American converts go looking for a game that doesn't exist? Idiotic and potentially damaging to any other promotion efforts.

And as for these adjustments - surely any change made should be to simplify the game for the onlooker, whereas these rules make things far more complicated.

Finally, point taking is an intrinsic and beautiful part of the game - for a man who was on the pitch when the Rock scored his epic from 100 yards out against Limerick in 2001 to forget this or take it for granted is a comment on the fuzzy logic behind this initiative.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football team of the 80s?
« on: September 12, 2013, 09:07:30 PM »
As always I'm sticking up for my county men - I'd say a team that won an All Ireland in 83 and contested the next two finals deserves more than O'Leary and Drumm - toss up for me between Mullins and McEntee (even a Mullins after the accident) Tommy Drumm for 83 alone is worth a shout against the Horse and we might have found some space for Duff, consistently through the 80s one of the best forwards around (no matter what happened against Galway).

Let the stoning commence....

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Probably no use to you, but i stayed in a very good small hotel, L'Hotel Brittanique, just beside the Pont Neuf, walking distance to the Louvre, Notre Dame, Rue St. Germain etc, nice little cafe round the corner for the petit dejeuner. Might be an option if the apartment idea doesn't work out - cosy and friendly place (though it was five years ago).

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General discussion / Re: Off the Ball v Second Captains - So Who Won?
« on: August 26, 2013, 05:13:32 PM »
Much prefer Off the Ball now - the lads had begun to disappear up their own....well you know. They devoted a couple of shows to Richie Sadlier's dog, which was funny for about 5 secs - real lack of perspective both in their final shows and their behaviour in walking out. I do hope though the new RTE show goes well - on top form, they are still a real alternative to "Official Ireland" sports coverage. Maybe a bit of humility will suit them

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I don't think Harte's injury should be downplayed as a rhetorical device to embarass Mickey Harte. It was a bone-shuddering (and fair) challenge, he was helped off the field, and went into the subs area on crutches.

If Mickey Harte thought it was a free, he is entitled to say so, as entitled as anyone here is to type away. Maybe he is sour, maybe he believes it to be true. I'm not his greatest fan, as previous posts would attest, but I think people can be bad winners as well as bad losers.

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GAA Discussion / Re: This weekend - 10 years ago
« on: August 25, 2013, 08:45:17 PM »
Speaking as a Dub, with no particular skin in the fight, everyone forgets the first half performance against Kerry in 2003, when they completely blew them out of the water football wise for the first 25 minutes - the pity was they didn't keep their foot on the pedal for the rest of the game. The 2005 quarter final games against us were pure class, and mostly pure football, while the 2005 final was perhaps the best All Ireland final of the last 10 years (I'd even go 15 maybe - it was a proper heavyweight bout).

And as for their performance against us in 2008 in the rain, it was like being dissected by a bunch of players who weren't only on a different level, but were playing a different game. Perhaps the biggest step in Dublin's current evolution/ revolution came with beating Tyrone in 2010, and then following that up with the more comprehensive performance in 2011. Along with Kerry they were the benchmark - and look at the players they produced - Canavan, McGuigan, O'Neill, Dooher, Cavanagh, Gormley, McMenamin (teeth gritting!), Mulligan, McAnallen - any team would have killed to have winners like them.

The present team is not near that standard, and the fact they got that far on limited resources is a tribute to Harte, in his talent for making players believe they can compete at the top level when logic would dictate that they can't. I don't like the way they played this year, but I can't tell you how many times over the past three decades that I've wished Dublin possesed the same cold-eyed rationality and ability to make the most of what they have. The cycnicism displayed by them this year doesn't tarnish Harte's legacy as far as I'm concerned and it has been more than matched by other teams (O'Shea looked a right eejit today but he's not the first and won't be the last).

Not angels, certainly not devils, but at times capable of reaching heights others could only dream of. I'd take that as a legacy any day of the week.

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General discussion / Re: Happy Birthday!
« on: August 19, 2013, 09:12:06 PM »
River Monsters with T Fearon......I've been away over four years and he's still throwing out the lines.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Hawkeye
« on: August 19, 2013, 03:35:30 PM »
Article on RTE.ie - clear as mud as to what was exactly wrong.




[i]Hawk-Eye was dropped for the All-Ireland Hurling Championship semi-final between Limerick and Clare after an error in the minor game earlier in the day.

Limerick's Barry Nash shot towards goal in the first minute of the game with Galway and referee Fergal Horgan referred to the new technology.

The graphic showed that the sliotar had gone inside the post but 'Miss' came up on the screen.

The referee had little choice but to give a wide.

The game finished level after normal time meaning the decision was vital to the outcome, with Galway winning in extra-time.

The GAA said in a statement issued this evening: "Following an inconsistency in the generation of a graphic by Hawkeye during today’s minor hurling semi-final, the decision was taken to suspend use of the score detection system for the senior game.

A full review of the technology, in conjunction with Hawkeye, commenced this evening and its finding will be examined by the GAA tomorrow.

It is expected that Hawkeye will be in full working order for next Sunday’s minor and senior football semi-finals.
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GAA Discussion / Re: Hawkeye
« on: August 19, 2013, 03:00:43 PM »
From what I heard on Morning Ireland, Alan Milton was saying that the tracking equipment was functioning properly and Hawkeye represented it a point correctly. The malfunction came when translating that result into the end graphic which announces the result. That's how I understood the interview.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Hawkeye
« on: August 19, 2013, 02:49:24 PM »
Obviously Plan B hadn't kicked in at that stage and they were trying to spare the ref's blushes. When the technology is in any way in question, the ref gets hung out to dry unfortunately - as I mentioned before about the Ashes, the unreliability of the DRS has completely undermined the umpires confidence in their own decisions, ironically leading to far more disputed decisions.
However I do think the GAa have to stick with/improve Hawkeye. Is there any more magnificent sight in sport then one umpire flagging a point while the other crosses his arms?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Hawkeye
« on: August 19, 2013, 02:28:54 PM »
My understanding was that the ball was over - ref went for confirmation, technology showed it over, graphic called it wrong. That's certainly the line that Alan Milton was pushing this morning.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Hawkeye
« on: August 19, 2013, 02:20:56 PM »
I wasn't saying that they would use human intervention to judge the result - clearly the technology did that successfully but the interface between that system and the TV/screens graphic failed. For instance, when a rugby ref goes to the video ref, he examines all the images and indicates whether it is a try to the match director and the graphics op in the tv truck firstly, and secondly to the actual ref on the pitch. This gives the graphics operator time to cue the try awarded/no try graphics and then these are rolled in at the same time the match ref is told.

I think the nature of the Hawkeye technology would mean that is is far more automated than this, but I would be hugely surprised if there was not Hawkeye staff there monitoring - in this case if there was a radio link between the ref and those staff he could say "There's clearly a contradiction here - instruct me on whether the point stands or not" and they could say whether it was a Hawkeye malfunction or a merely  a graphics malfunction. Not ideal, but the optimum outcome should be the point awarded, no matter how long it took or how awkward it looked.

If the graphic function for Hawkeye is actually operated from the TV truck there is a good possibility it was simply human error - don't know whether that was the case or not.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Hawkeye
« on: August 18, 2013, 05:06:46 PM »
I've seen it happen at tennis tournaments were Hawkeye can be suspended. Though I think that this could merely be a graphic error, in that the technology itself was giving the correct result (i.e. showing the ball go through the posts), but it was in the relaying of it that the error occurred. It might just be someone with an itchy finger pressing the wrong button. They need to get protocols in place for this (if there is an operator in place with this kit there should a radio comms link with the ref).

Anyone who has been watching the Ashes this season can see the problems that over reliance on technology can cause ( and I'm speaking as someone who would have been gung ho for it to be used) I see there is controversy in the senior game over a point allowed to Limerick. Anyone have a tin opener for this can of worms?

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