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GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
« on: September 13, 2018, 12:16:23 PM »
He's been very diplomatic. I think you listen to that it's clear what happened.

He is, held his station! He knows there are good players with Carnacon that could come back and add to the team and he does not want to burn that bridge.

Looks like Cora has been telling a few fibs. Looks like two players were told their roles in the team had changed and these players were not happy - and decided to take things into their own hands - use their power drag a few players down with them and it backfired.

This is the first time they have encountered a manager strong enough to make big decisions and wade it out.

It looked like this would go away, only for the County Board to also grow a pair and firmly put Carnacon in its place.

Cora ''opened her mouth to wide'' last week and she could live to regret some of the strong accusations she made.

Did Leahy say that?

Well he said he had  no intention of doing an interview on it until Cora said the players were not in a safe environment so I think it's reasonable to surmise she opened her moith too wide.
No that wasn't a quote from him, He did say what she said on OTB was libelous.
The most disappointing thing for me, in a list of disappointing things coming out of this was the allegation that for up to 2 or 3 days before the Cavan game players were getting texts encouraging them to jump ship and saying "sure they wont be able to field if ye pull out". Disgusting if true.
Based on Peter Leahys side of the story, which appears to be collaborated by the county board actions in sanctioning Carnacon and the players statement this was a pure childish reaction from some quarters to changes in the structure and way things were done that they didn't like and it has just escalated and escalated. unless there is a climb down from one side of embarrassing proportions I wouldn't be surprised if this ended up in court.
Listened to this last night, was interesting, seemed to be suggesting that there were two players that were behind it all.
Wouldn’t take a whole lot of detective work to reveal the two, had it worked out before I was told for definite. A sorry end to both of their football careers with Mayo if it’s stays the way it is now....

I think people are jumping to conclusions about what happened ,
the rumors go.....
It is possible that some players felt it was an unhealthy environment and there personal choices beyond football were being Questioned in an unfair manner and convinced they club mates to support them . I am hearing it is very personal to the players involved and they don't want it to be known publicly and there probably are some mayo team mates not aware of the full story and I doubt if the whole story will ever officially be know .
but if what im hearing is true if they don't want further exposure they should have kept stum after initial statement rather than throwing aspersions accidentally or otherwise . but no illegal activity is being alleged AFAIK

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GAA Discussion / Re: Kevin Mc Stays resigns as Roscommon manager?
« on: September 05, 2018, 06:29:58 PM »
His full resignation statement taken from the Roscommon website.

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Earlier this afternoon I spoke with the Chairman of Roscommon GAA and informed him of my decision not to continue in my role as manager of Roscommon senior footballers.

Our annual review of the 2018 season was completed recently. Having considered the many factors involved in managing a county football squad, and unable to resolve enough of those factors to my satisfaction, I have decided that a change in management should take place immediately. I feel I have brought the team as far as I can at this stage and a new voice and direction is now required. The handover to the next management group will be orderly and without fuss.

As is the natural way of things, some players will retire, others will opt out due to work and college commitments while yet more will want to travel. As I have remarked previously, life often gets in the way of football and we must recognise this.

I want to salute two players who have retired this year; both Seanie McDermott and Ian Kilbride gave their county outstanding service.

Over the past 12 months this group of Roscommon players has won, or qualified, for all the competitions they can be reasonably expected to:

Connacht Championship Winners (July 2017)
All Ireland Quarter Finalists (July 2017)
Connacht League (March 2018)
Division 2 Champions & Promotion to 2019 NFL Div 1 (April 2018)
All Ireland Quarter Finalists (July 2018)

Winning the 2017 Connacht Final will always remain the happiest day of my sporting life. The joy, satisfaction and fun it provided to us all - players, parents, management, officials and supporters, is something I will cherish forever. The mayhem and madness of those few days will always be a warm memory.

I want to sincerely thank all of the players I’ve dealt with these last three years. I wish them well; they have given so much in their efforts to represent Roscommon, both on and off the field.

I want to note the massive contribution of Liam McHale (Team Coach), over the past 2 years especially. Without his knowledge, enthusiasm, energy, charisma and great sense of fun we would never have won the championships and leagues we did. A life-long friend, on and off the pitch, I want to sincerely thank him for his dedication and loyalty.

Ger Dowd (Selector and sometimes Manager!) worked tirelessly for this group. A hugely experienced coach, Ger always found time in a very busy life to get things done and I deeply respected his work, opinions, advice and friendship.

I want to particularly thank my loyal comrade and friend Sean Finnegan who ensured everything on the ‘Admin & Logs’ side went perfectly and yet still somehow found time to provide the fun, the laughs and sort out our downtime. The players and management never ceased to be amazed at the royal treatment he laid on for us wherever we went over the three seasons.

David Joyce, our S&C Coach, was a key component of all our successes. In his first major appointment at this level, alongside his professional competence, he was a valued member of management and an extremely positive influence on the group. Damien Martin (S&C) was his able and loyal lieutenant. Tom Coleman & Jeeny Maltese (Nutrition) arrived this year and made a huge contribution.

Thanks to the Goalkeeping Coaches I worked with - Leo Tierney and his predecessor, Declan O’Keeffe. Both men worked extremely hard for the cause.

The Medical Team under Dr. Martin Daly (Aisling Creighton, Sarah Newton, Ciaran Hunt, Seamus Hunt, Pat Regan and Squad Sports Psychologist Jim Lowther) provided a first class service at all times; the Kit Team (Anthony & Daire McCormack) and our Stats Man (Mick Byrne) always excelled and our Camera Man, Ollie Lennon, always got the tapes to us on time.

A special thanks to our loyal and fun Taxi Man, Shay Wade, who never let us down; and Liam McNeill who looked after catering, often at short notice and with considerable distance involved but he always obliged. Thanks also to Vinny Egan for the Ice Baths. There are many others who made contributions: all at St. Brigid’s GAA club, the staff in Dr. Hyde Park, the staff in County Board offices, Adrian Greally & Staff at The Abbey Hotel, and so on. It takes a lot of positive people to run an inter-county team – no doubt I’ve accidently left some people out.

I want to acknowledge the generous sponsorship of Ballymore (Sean Mulryan) and Ranger Pipelines (Tom Hunt) – without their help we could never have achieved what we did.

I want to put on record the inputs of Fergal O’Donnell, in particular, during year one; without his efforts the squads of 2017 and 2018 would not have enjoyed the benefits of the many excellent people and structures he put in place. The 2016 selectors, David Casey and Stephen Bohan never tired trying to do their best for Roscommon GAA. And a sincere thanks also to the 2016 back room team personnel who worked so diligently.

My family, Verona and our three girls, have never once wavered in their support of me, or the Roscommon team, and of course prepared the ground at home to allow me a clear run at managing this fine squad.

I want to thank the former Roscommon players and managers who encouraged, advised gently and supported strongly whatever I was trying to do for the squad.

Throughout my time in charge I have, thankfully, enjoyed the support and friendship of the officers charged with running the affairs of both Roscommon GAA and Connacht GAA: Seamus Sweeney (Chairman, Roscommon GAA), Brian Carroll (Secretary, Roscommon GAA), David O’Connor (Treasurer, Roscommon GAA), his predecessor Seamus Maher and Hugh Lynn (PRO, Roscommon).

Valerie Murray (Fixtures Secretary, Roscommon GAA) was always friendly and courteous. John Prenty (Sec, Connacht GAA) has always been professional and friendly in his personal dealings with me and I thank him for his support over the years. And a massive thanks to all at Club Rossie for their efforts.

I want to confirm that our Chairman, on the day the season ended, gave me his and his executive’s full backing and asked that I stay on to see out the final two years of my term. I deeply appreciated that prompt and positive support.

I want to thank the vast majority of media for their fair and accurate reporting on the efforts of our players and my management team.

So, after much consideration I have decided not to take up the Chairman’s invitation. I’ve done three years, every one of them challenging and sometimes exhausting. In reviewing my time in charge I have to acknowledge the inordinate amount of time I spent dealing with financial and facility issues, personnel issues, media issues and the various contentious and controversial events that kept arising over those seasons.

Success is what we all crave but we must understand our reality too. While Roscommon is a proud football county, it is a small county with a limited playing pool and deficits in resources and facilities. The budget required to finance success at the highest level demands year-round attention. Facilities, Catering, Kit & Equipment, Professional expertise and, especially, Travel costs are major financial drainers and they are placing a massive burden on voluntary officers that is often overwhelming.

These are the significant challenges the smaller GAA counties face. If the GAA is committed to ensuring all counties are, at a minimum, competitive, then they must be supported financially in a way that reflects the demands and the need for fairness, equity and solidarity.

I am privileged to say the Roscommon GAA family entrusted their team to me for three years. We had our share of special days, mostly grand days and of course, some very tough days. But overall, on reflection, these have been three of the greatest years of my life. Leaving the safety of the pundits chair for the passion and glory of the dressing room and football field is a decision I’ll never regret. However, today marks my retirement from senior inter county football management.

I look forward to a less stressful period now, concentrating more on work and family life and to supporting Roscommon and Mayo teams in 2019 and beyond.

http://www.gaaroscommon.ie/news-detail/10043386/

First game in the league is Mayo v Roscommon.

no doubt he is a class act
hope hes in form for one last Job before he retires and he can bring Liam. though I wonder is it time for liam to stand on his own 2 feet and take over?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: August 31, 2018, 10:50:30 AM »
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .

My thoughts exactly😮.....Why force Rochford out if no one lined up??? I was told mcguinness but that dosent seem to be happening...Our county board are beyond a joke this is an absolute farce


I don't think they thight they were getting Rid of Rochford more asserting the own kingdom,
I think when the chairmans  brother was forced out, he said no one would walk over him again . so there could be a bot of payback going on.
as for the brothers I think the main man considers the county board  Persona non grata and would need to see big changes before he'd consider it (famous last words)
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: August 28, 2018, 05:56:40 PM »
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom

It’s unintentionally telling that proved to be a highlight of Rochford’s reign.

Don't flatter yourself lad, it was funny that's all , players got a laugh out of it ,Mayo  supporters got a laugh out of it. A small section of ros supporters went bizzerk one of whom tried to get into mayo dressing room to tell Andy something .bizzare

Dry yer eyes.
from tears of laughter  and tears of Joy

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: August 28, 2018, 03:59:14 PM »
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
« on: August 28, 2018, 03:58:02 PM »
we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017
What made it the best ever year for supporters? Mayo reaching and losing All Ireland final was nothing new.  Was a summer that Mayo lost to Galway and that lost meant a lot of unnecessary games around the country that would have cost supporters a lot of money I can imagine. Fell over the line against a poor Derry team at home, required extra time to beat a poor Cork team, needed a replay to beat Roscommon and it took a replay to get past Kerry. Was it the latter? as that was Mayo first championship win against Kerry since the 90s I believe.


It was a rollercoaster of a summer.
Near disaster - Galway, Derry, Cork, Roscommon.
Big days on the road when there was a massive sense of 'in it together' - Ennis, Limerick, Croker x 5.
Big high points - Loftus goal v Derry, the craic in Ennis, hammering Ros in replay, beating Kerry after Rochford took dog's abuse, the display v Dublin (apart from 1st min and last couple of mins).
There was massive craic, massive pride and massive memories - believe it or not, it really isn't all about the winning.
well said Tubberman weve had better braic the last few year than many an All Ireland winning team .
the only danger now is infighting start and knocks the the whole thing on the head
I don't think the County board wanted rid od Stephen but they wanted control at the same time.
the important thing now is get a manager in (anyone but JmcG) and build it up again

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whisper it but isn't it fairly obvious at this stage Antrim GAA don't really need casement park . if you cn survive 5 years without it would the money net be better spent properly modernizing clones?.
I assume were talking about Ulster GAA money here rather than Antrim's

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns??
« on: August 27, 2018, 02:58:32 PM »
 "Following an executive meeting of Mayo GAA, the officers of the board were authorised to meet Stephen Rochford and his management team on their structures and plans for 2019."
not exactly pinning their colours to the mast  nor a ringing endorsement.
who put forward the names of Ford and Conway was it the board or SR?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns??
« on: August 27, 2018, 11:35:54 AM »
Mayo Gaa on social media = Machiavellianism at its finest.

There needs to be a study done on it , a part of me would love to type names , all selfish careerists . Some of them should hang their head s in shame . A shambles
which is a shambles?
mayo GAA official or the rumour mongers

go one names name we little else to be doing until the FBD starts again

are you thinking about Area 51

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo manager resigns??
« on: August 27, 2018, 11:29:33 AM »
Mayo Gaa on social media = Machiavellianism at its finest.

There needs to be a study done on it , a part of me would love to type names , all selfish careerists . Some of them should hang their head s in shame . A shambles
which is a shambles?
mayo GAA official or the rumour mongers

go one names name we little else to be doing until the FBD starts again

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GAA Discussion / Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
« on: August 21, 2018, 12:07:12 PM »
There are a fair few pages on this, but I don't think another issue has been raised on this...

Your daughter has been murdered and RTE are broadcasting in front of your house and I am also told (feel free to confirm or not) that they approached him repeatedly for interviews using personal contacts when he was looking to be left alone.

The sketch was the icing on the cake if that is true.
Rotten if True.
But its hard to see what he is achieving at this point 7 years  on . is he using it as part of a siege mentality ? as a crutch to hang on to Michelas memory and sees this as part of righting that wrong?
but I really think  for himself  he needs to forgive. it cant be doing him or the rest of the Family any good to hold a Grudge for so long?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Willie Barret - Referees Development Chairman
« on: August 16, 2018, 01:57:06 PM »
It must be hard to count steps and advantage seconds at the same time.

Multi tasking! Women are good at that

MR, Ticklemaster, any other referees on here,
   Do you reset the step count when playing an advantage after someone is fouled?

Not a trick question, just wondering.

I don't but I can see why it happens, if someone is fouled and I raise my arm for advantage I call it back to the original spot or if the player is again fouled before the 5 seconds are up I restart the advantage rule but by the same token the player can't foul the ball... At this point though you will bring on a heap of shit on you that you don't need, play advantage, if there is none just bring it back. Can you imagine if you raise the arm for advantage and then give a foul against player?

I agree with you, but that is the rule isnt it?
At the same time a player cant get away with unlimited steps just because there is an advantage being played.Its still a wee bit of a grey are and open to interpretation by the referee

It's not a grey area or open to interpretation. If a player takes too many steps its a technical foul and he should be penalised unless he's due an advantage from being fouled in the build-up. Nowhere in the rulebook does it state "you can take ten steps if you're sorta half being fouled or pulled about".

It started about ten years ago when Sean Cavanagh rounded Rory O'Carrol to score a goal v Dublin. Now it's taken hold in Gaelic football and no-one calls it a foul when it should be (refs and commentators alike). It's one of my big bugbears.
What i mean is,rightly or wrongly,  it often is open to a referees own interpretation of this rule.
It regularly happens , and you rarely see a player being pulled back for a technical foul when the advantage is being played
I think peple are confusing 'open to refs interpretation' with 'the ref making a mistake'

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GAA Discussion / Re: PuC and the Liam Miller Fundraiser
« on: August 09, 2018, 04:20:08 PM »
5.1 Uses of Property
(a) All property including grounds, Club Houses, Halls,
Dressing Rooms and Handball Alleys owned or
controlled by units of the Association shall be used
only for the purpose of or in connection with the
playing of the Games controlled by the Association,
and for such other purposes not in conflict with
the Aims and Objects of the Association, that may
be sanctioned from time to time by the Central
Council.


Is a charity soccer game "in conflict with the Aims and Objects of the Association"?
One of the aims of the GAA is
The Association shall actively support the Irish
language, traditional Irish dancing, music, song,
and other aspects of Irish culture. It shall foster
an awareness and love of the national ideals in
the people of Ireland, and assist in promoting a
community spirit through its clubs 

I feel this charity event meets the last line, of promoting a community spirit. I also feel the actions to date from HQ on this do nothing for the promotion of our games and pass times.

 this is an appreciation game  not a charity match . for the for the family of a well paid ex-profesional who died young leaving an estate Valued 14 Million
even in a no sporting context  that put him a the hifher end of the wealth spectrum not a charity case

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GAA Discussion / Re: Managerial Abuse
« on: August 09, 2018, 11:21:12 AM »
There should be a clear distinction made between managers who get paid vast sums of money and those who do it for the pride of their club/county.

When it comes to telling someone to jump off a cliff then there is no distinction to be made on whether they are paid. It and similar abuse is always wrong.

When it comes to criticising managerial decisions then there is no distinction. If the criticism is accurate or at least arguable then it’s fair.

But you are right about one thing. Once the individual crosses the line and accepts payment for a role that the rules and traditions of the game state are exclusively amateur then it’s difficult for them to appeal to the rules and traditions of the game for protection. The level of scrutiny and accountability increases once you take payment
Is Jump Off a cliff mot just an expression though , Its not exactly 'ill shoot you and all your family' or ' look under your car tomorrow '  level of threat . in fact its an invitation not a threat .
I'd love if these guys would actually just show the letter and then we'd see exactly the extent and nature of the Problem

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GAA Discussion / Re: U20 All Ireland series
« on: August 08, 2018, 05:29:05 PM »
Look Jordon will get his ban, a deserving one but this gawd bless us and save us brigade that surrounds GAA need to go away. Several Mayo people said he should never play again for Mayo , my response was to get a grip , if he his any addition to Mayo he should be added.
Ive no doubt he will be back , when he serves what ever ban he gets . he has a good heads for advice around him.
the only danger is he'll go Egg chasing where such activity is lauded become the stuff of after dinner story legend
I reckon 6 months will see him right as it was a push rather than a strike , (and maybe a few classes in anger management )

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