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Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: Today at 08:52:15 PM »
You can tell from the dinner dance video that Mullinalaghta
are a serious football team

I hope the dinner dance this year will be online
I presume Laureleye has taken the evening off for beer and peanuts

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: Today at 08:26:49 PM »
Brexit is fucked. Here is why

Thatcher broke the miners in 1985. Instead of rehabilitating the communities they were left to rot.

UK manufacturing employment fell from 8.9 million
to just 2.9 million since the 1960s, and 500,000 coal jobs
ESA and the additional benefits received –
eg Housing Benefit and DLA  –
cost  £30bn
Or 3% of GDP

Sheffield Hallam studied the coalfields 30 years  later

Thatcher’s miner legacy :

Extent of ill health :

DLA claimant rate
Job density
Business stock
Business formation rate
Employment rate
Occupational structure
Workforce qualifications
Incapacity benefit claimant rate
Overall working-age claimant rate

The mining communities are sicker and poorer than other communities.  30 of the 43 most deprived communities in the UK are ex-mining communities.

These people were abandoned.

Osborne began his cuts after the 2011 election. They hit the former mining areas hard
 "In Bolsover, government funding has gone.

 Mansfield used to have 12 community development workers across all agencies. Now this is reduced to "just one or two".

In Wansbeck staffing reduced from 41 to 15."

“The financial cuts since 2010 have driven many voluntary and community
organisations in the coalfields into crisis, and often led to substantial

The people were courted by vote Leave and they thought they would be looked after. The coalfields voted Leave.
The combined effect of shabby treatment going back to the 80s, neglect and cuts drove the Leave vote.

Leave was the Tory death sentence and it was delivered in part by the people of Orgreave.

. The Tories promised them FOM and promised SE England growth. It can deliver neither. This a structural crisis.

Basically instead of rehabilitating the mining areas the Tories left them to hang. Given the disability costs of £30 bn pa this was far more expensive over the long term than doing the decent thing. The cherry on top was the Leave vote.

May gave a Lancaster House speech full of uncosted red lines. Nick Timothy believed that red lines were necessary to connect the Conservatives more deeply to the 52 % of the electorate who voted to
leave, in towns across the north of England, the Midlands and Wales who felt barely connected to the political process. These suffering people had been promised the world by gobshites.

"But senior civil servants, none of whom were consulted over Mrs May’s speech, were horrified
when they watched it on television.“"
May ran an unnecessary election on a strong Brexit  theme that was rejected by large swathes of the population. The UK is heavily polarised.

May had to cede on all of her red lines in negotiations with the EU. The UK cannot  drop freedom of movement and stay in the Single Market. It cannot go it alone without blowing up the UK economy.

There is no way forward that can deliver what the Tories promised the North of England.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 04:55:02 PM »
An American story

Donald J. Trump


Joshua McKerrow

1. Today I did the annual story on holiday decorations at the Governor's residence. I've done it every year, for years. A very light but very fun story. Every year my reporting partner was Wendi Winters. This year, it was Selene. Wendi was murdered in June.

2. Selene did a great job, of course. And I really thought I could hold it together. I moved through the rooms with my tripod, focusing on the trees and ornaments. All I could think about was Wendi. I felt like she was with me, that she was actually present.

3. Not in a "ghost" sense, I hope she has moved on to a better world then Capital feature stories : ) But she was there in my mind. I could almost hear her voice echoing through the empty rooms. "How many cookies are you making this year?", her favorite question..

4. I was ok til the very end. Interviewed the butler, like I have every year, and when we were done she took me aside and whispered, "I really miss Wendi. Next year I'm going to name a cookie for her."

5. And that was it. The tears started, and I'm standing in the Maryland Governors home weeping to myself about my dead friend. She died in The Capital newsroom on June 28th, shot by a man who wanted to kill every journalist he could.

6. We don't know what set him off yet. After years of silence. What finally pushed him far enough that he loaded his shotgun, drove the 40 minutes from Laurel, parked his car, walked through the busy lobby, barricaded our back exit, blasted the simple fragile glass door.

Joshua McKerrow

Dec 7

7. Five people died, Rebecca, Wendi, Gerald, Rob, John. I always type their names in the order I think they were killed. I think, Rebecca first, at the door. Wendi charged him. Gerald and Rob were trapped in their cubicle. John, trying to get out the blocked exit.

8. Wendi was no ones enemy

Joshua McKerrow

Dec 7

Replying to
9. Every year Wendi made us all Oreo holiday cookies. except for the one year she made us jarred pesto. The question came up yesterday in the newsroom, who is going to make the cookies this year? Selene spoke up, I will.

10. I don't have a wrap-up to this story. I cried on and off all day. I miss her very much. I'm comforted that in a way she's still with me, when I do the work that she loved to do. Journalism. Patriotic, truth telling, American. We'll keep on doing the work.

Joshua McKerrow

Dec 7

Replying to
11. And if we die for it, someone else will pick up the threads, and report on the holiday decorations at the Governor's house. Its what we do. -

Shannon Watts


In the moments before she was shot dead at the Capital Gazette on June 28, reporter Wendi Winters - a 65 year old mother of four - stood up from her desk and charged at the rampaging gunman, brandishing a trash can and a recycling bin.

She shouldn't have had to be a hero...

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: Today at 04:04:48 PM »
Crokes beaten by some shite team from Longford.
Imagine what this means for the kids. Imagine the buzz in school tomorrow.
Imagine what Lomans are thinking.

2.5 million people in Leinster. One club.
This would have to be on a par with 1968.

Fair play to Laureleye who never gave in to irrational exuberance.

Longford / Re: Longford Football (& Hurling) Thread
« on: Today at 12:05:12 PM »
Go néirí libh Laureleye. Lá de bhúr saol. I can only imagine
the excitement levels. Whatever happens they are legends.

GAA Discussion / Re: Pretty good ad
« on: Today at 11:29:57 AM »
They probably sell presentation boxes for all Ireland medals in Kerry as well

This video is good too

Good stuff

I think Irish music and hurling is a great combo

Bits I wouldn’t mind seeing :

Jer the rigger by Hayes and Cahill Live in Seattle
Go west along the road by Hayes and Cahill live in Seattle
Si bheag si mhor  by Planxty

Really good hurling quotes could work as well

14:10 Dan Shanahan
It’s an honour to be playing against them lads.
And bating them

15:18 He said to me keep going, keep doing what you are doing, keep moving around . Don’t stand in the one spot.
Justin McCarthy

I think you must have belief that you can do something. You must believe that you can do it.
Mick Mackey

I knew I was strong from hitting against fellas, older fellas and that . You felt that « well, I could take that fella » type of thing.

As the years went on you would say to yourself I’m sorry I didn’t do this or that. If you were to go back a second time you would play different really. You would do different things . But you don’t get a second chance.

They all went to Thurles to see Mackey giving an exhibition. He carried the whole Limerick support on his shoulders.

Say you could juxtapose Mackey with limerick winning last year

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 08, 2018, 06:47:38 AM »
She is out of her depth

General discussion / Re: Consecrated Virgins
« on: December 07, 2018, 03:24:54 PM »

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:46:59 PM »
United Ireland latest
the DUP want this :

Major ports could suffer disruption for up to six months under a no-deal scenario, the Government has told industry leaders.
Revised Brexit assessments published on Friday warned that access through Dover and Folkestone could be reduced for significantly longer than first feared.
Matt Hancock, the Health Secretary, has written to health and care providers setting out contingency plans for medicine plans, in which he warns that there would be "significantly reduced access across the short straits, for up to six months."
Separately, he also confirmed that his department was exploring plans to give pharmacists the authority to overrule GPs and ration drugs to mitigate shortages.
Under an urgent consultation initiated this week, ministers are seeking to introduce a  "serious shortage protocol" for pharmacies, allowing them to dispense a "reduced quantity" of the medicine, an "alternative dosage form" or a "therapeutic equivalent".

Mr Hancock told the BBC he wanted to “make sure [that] if there’s a shortage of individual drugs pharmacists can make clinical and professional judgements”, adding “it’s about having the appropriate clinical flexibility”.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:30:48 PM »
Philip Stephens' mother was from Kiltimagh

   Theresa May has lost control of Brexit
               This is what happens when parliamentary democracies shuffle off responsibility
         Philip Stephens

So this is what they meant by taking back control. Theresa May’s government has drawn up plans to allocate space on European ferries arriving at the British port of Dover. Trucks carrying medicines will get permits to make the crossing from Calais; so too, perhaps, those with components for vital business supply chains. Britain’s consumers have been warned. There will not be enough room for luxuries such as fresh fruit and vegetables.

Crashing out of the EU in March without a deal would see the restoration overnight of Britain’s national sovereignty. This surely would be Brexit at its purest — manna for those in Mrs May’s party seeking a complete rupture with the continent. Decisions on the opening and closing of ports and borders would be a matter for the Westminster government alone. Britain, in the lurid language of the Brexiters, would have cast off the shackles. So runs the theory. Now the reality is beginning to impose itself. Calais-Dover by a large measure is Britain’s most important trade route. It operates with the consent and co-operation of France. Whitehall officials estimate the inevitable post-Brexit imposition at Calais of EU checks and controls would cut traffic — imports to, as well as exports from, Britain — by more than four-fifths. The effect would be to choke off supplies to much of British business and leave stranded in France much of the produce destined for British supermarket shelves. So much for sovereignty.For the prime minister such horror stories — and this is one of many — are the only argument she has for the dismal deal she has negotiated with the EU27. It is not enough. The closer Brexit looms, the more obvious the prospective damage to the nation’s prosperity and security. Mrs May’s agreement would delay some of the consequences and throw a veil over others. Taken in the round, it is a charade — a hapless attempt to wish away the yawning gulf between abstract concepts of sovereignty and real national power.Those tuning in to the parliamentary debate on the agreement could be forgiven for thinking the only big problem is a so-called backstop arrangement to guarantee an open border between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic.

Yet the then-Brexit minister Dominic Raab stated he didn't realise fully the importance of Dover port. Unbelievable Jeff.
Strangely, I get the feeling the DUP would be secretly pleased if there was another referendum and Brexit scrapped; it would get them out of the current boghole.

One of the DUP arseholes said recently that a no deal would really hurt the RoI, as if that would justify throwing 66 million people in the whole of  the  UK into absolute chaos which may include being unable to bury family members . The DUP are insane. 

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:00:37 PM »
Philip Stephens

This is what happens when parliamentary democracies seek to shrug off responsibility. Referendums undermine political pluralism. As Margaret Thatcher used to say, they are a favourite device of demagogues and dictators. The so-called will of the people reduces liberal democracy to majoritarianism.

F88k off Philip Stephens.

if "parliamentary democracies" are not supposed to follow the will of the people, then scrap the idea of representative democracy and replace it with a meritocracy.

I'm personally sick of having useless incompetents that are not qualified for the roles they are in try to run things and have the wool pulled over their eyes by equally inept and incompetent civil servants.

How many of the current cabinet have professional qualifications appropriate to the roles they find themselves in?

Just a random selection
Minister for Energy & Clean growth - "read" geography at oxford
Minister for Universities, Sciences, Research & Innovation - Modern History at oxford
DEFRA - English at oxford
Transport minister - history in cambridge
Health minister - philosophy, politics and economics at oxford

Not one of them are suitably qualified to critically examine the work of the civil servants under them with any authority.

The conservatives were stupid to ask such an important question to an angry electorate in a referendum. FFS

GAA Discussion / Re: Jimmy McGuinness
« on: December 07, 2018, 01:55:18 PM »
It's one hell of a story of Jim's life. I know him and his wife and kids and I remember how bleak things looked for him before he got the Donegal job. He had all these qualifications after spending ages in college and loads of self belief but no solid experience. He was sitting beside me at a wedding and he told me all his plans of what he was gonna do with Donegal and how he admired Mickey Harte and what he achieved with Tyrone.

i'd say that's why he is going to the US as his first soccer fits team coach job to get experience of being a head coach for the first time away from all the hype of Europe. Small fish in a big pond where he will learn his trade whilst earning huge money for his family.

I was amazed when he left Donegal first to go to Celtic as I knew how much living at home meant for him and his family but then even more shocked when he went to China but the man is ambitious and like Harte very single minded as Kevin Cassidy found out.
I will not be surprised if he becomes a top coach in the premier league some day. As he says himself above, its just people and life and managing them to get what ye need out of them.

However, unlike Getoverthebar, I think he went too far though with how he changed our GAA game and how we have went through a period of paralysis by analysis. Some can argue Kerry had wing forwards tracking back in the 70s and short kick outs and then many would say Armagh and Tyrone brought in a lot more tactics during the early 00's but I think Jim with his total defensive blanket changed our game forever. It has become much more soccer or basketball like I feel with it no longer a man on man scenario. Possession is king and so the joy of watching a player take on crazy passes or shots or try to beat his man is gone as there will be too many players back sweeping to catch him should he beat his man. Yes sensible and good defending but as a spectacle our game has gone backwards big time and I definitely lay a lot of that blame at Jim's door.
Even in his article in the Irish Times a few weeks before this years final about how he thinks Tyrone's best chance is to go ultra defensive, almost like that terrible low scoring game in 2011 was it? It almost sounded as if he wanted to still justify he was right to play that way.
Anyway fair play to him in the States and I hope he make a fist of it.

Great post Fuzzman. McGuinness is very driven but the state of football isn’t down to him alone.
Jim Gavin is no angel either but. there is more to it.  There is a thing in politics called a historical block where an idea becomes popular at an elite level and then dominant. I think that is what happened.

It would be great if he could make a success of it. I still don’t understand how they only won the one Sam.

General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: December 07, 2018, 01:12:23 PM »
Shontayne Hape

As far as I know GAA doesn't have any cases like this

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:35:46 AM »

By Mrs May’s side was Julian Smith,
the Chief Whip, and arranged around the room were Remainers Philip Hammond,
Amber Rudd, David Lidington, David Gauke and Karen Bradley, and Brexiteers
Andrea Leadsom, Michael Gove and Liam Fox. “I think people had turned up expecting her to
say ‘this is the preferred course’,” said one Cabinet source. “But instead it
was obvious she doesn’t really know what to do next.” Julian Smith set the tone by
admitting for the first time that the Government would lose the vote next
Tuesday if it goes ahead.

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