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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly

« on: May 11, 2020, 12:36:16 AM »

As Joe says, you can forget about Cavanagh as far as he's a man. Made a real fool of himself

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 08, 2020, 09:37:01 PM »

Trailer talking nonsense again. Says the virus isn't going away but we should somehow be all going back to work.
As ITG rightly says, workers are not obliged to go back to work, and should work from home if they're not an essential worker as per the government instructions. Cashflow problems of the business are not the fault of the employee, and if they get sacked from work because their selfish boss wants to disobey government instructions and bring them back to work, the employees would be well within their rights to take them to court.

This is unfortunately not accurate. With the extensive list of what is an essential worker, many businesses can make a case for qualifying if they want/need to get back to work. If it is possible to work from home the government says that you should however if this is not possible and on site location is safe an employee can not simply refuse to go to work because they don’t want to. If there is work (or suitable alternative on another reasonable location for example a cleaner in a school being asked to clean a bank or supermarket instead) the employee can only stay away from work with a shielding letter without breach of contract.

Not quite. I didn't say refuse to work because they don't want to. Business turning round now and saying their employees are essential workers all of a sudden isn't going to cut it. Employees who have concerns over the safety of their workplace are well within their rights not to attend.

More brains in a false face

Says the one smarter than all the scientists. Have you finished that 24 hours of reading yet?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 08, 2020, 04:58:57 PM »

Trailer talking nonsense again. Says the virus isn't going away but we should somehow be all going back to work.
As ITG rightly says, workers are not obliged to go back to work, and should work from home if they're not an essential worker as per the government instructions. Cashflow problems of the business are not the fault of the employee, and if they get sacked from work because their selfish boss wants to disobey government instructions and bring them back to work, the employees would be well within their rights to take them to court.

This is unfortunately not accurate. With the extensive list of what is an essential worker, many businesses can make a case for qualifying if they want/need to get back to work. If it is possible to work from home the government says that you should however if this is not possible and on site location is safe an employee can not simply refuse to go to work because they don’t want to. If there is work (or suitable alternative on another reasonable location for example a cleaner in a school being asked to clean a bank or supermarket instead) the employee can only stay away from work with a shielding letter without breach of contract.

Not quite. I didn't say refuse to work because they don't want to. Business turning round now and saying their employees are essential workers all of a sudden isn't going to cut it. Employees who have concerns over the safety of their workplace are well within their rights not to attend.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 08, 2020, 03:25:34 PM »

Trailer talking nonsense again. Says the virus isn't going away but we should somehow be all going back to work.
As ITG rightly says, workers are not obliged to go back to work, and should work from home if they're not an essential worker as per the government instructions. Cashflow problems of the business are not the fault of the employee, and if they get sacked from work because their selfish boss wants to disobey government instructions and bring them back to work, the employees would be well within their rights to take them to court.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly

« on: May 06, 2020, 04:14:28 PM »

Let me suggest "I didn't agree to any so called truce, cos yes went from being big hitters to basement dwellers".

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 06, 2020, 04:07:35 PM »

Children obviously can get it and spread it. Claiming otherwise is just moronic.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 05, 2020, 08:59:15 PM »

You laugh at me because you see scientists and experts and you blindly follow. They know more than you. Deaths were unavoidable. This was out our control. But it’s not. The deaths were and should’ve been avoided. The scientists got it wrong. The experts don't know. Remember the experts who predicted that there’d be a soft landing to housing bubble in 2007. The same banking experts. The smartest minds.
They don’t know. They’re making it up as they go along. I could study “the science” for 24 hours and I’d be better placed to make decisions on what to do rather than these clowns. They’re overpaid failures. People who couldn’t cut it in the real business world were failure is punished.

So the experts know more than us, but you know more than the experts after 24 hours of reading? Got it. 
You'd know more about a big loaf.

You think they know more.

Look follow them. Listen to them. Go for it. What’ve you got to lose except you’re life. You think they’re right. That they know what’s going on. That they know what they’re doing. That’s fine.
But forgive me when I don’t listen to them. That I think they’ve got it wrong. That I think they’re a bunch of clowns who’re making it up as they go along.

So by adhering to the lockdown restrictions and social distancing measures which massively reduces exposure to the virus, i am therefore putting my life at risk, but you who doesn't or refuses to adhere to this are actually going to be safer off? 
By not leaving the house, i am more at risk? Right got it. 
You tear away. Go you visit your elderly relatives, go back to work and meet up with others and all the rest etc etc. Don't come crying when you're breathing through a machine because the science is wrong  Clampit

That’s not what I’m saying. I’ve been clear and cannot be clearer.

WHO - Got it wrong
UK Government advisors have got it wrong.

FFS why are people defending them? Even the loyal Tory press are calling them out.
The science got it wrong hence this draconian lockdown. If they’d took the right steps initially lives would have been saved. But no you think these frauds are right. They know what they’re doing. I hope you’re right.

You haven't been clear.
You have yet to explain why you think they have got it wrong, or given your opinion as to what you think should have happened instead.
All you have contributed are aimless whines and bs soundbites like "the game is up" or "the experts are wrong" with no logic behind them.
The brits have shown their incompetence with the likes of testing and shortage of PPE, just compare them with Germany.
 However, "the science" that you yap on about, which is to reduce everyone's exposure to the virus is necessary and obvious, you don't have to be a scientist to know that it's the right thing to do.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 05, 2020, 08:34:32 PM »

You laugh at me because you see scientists and experts and you blindly follow. They know more than you. Deaths were unavoidable. This was out our control. But it’s not. The deaths were and should’ve been avoided. The scientists got it wrong. The experts don't know. Remember the experts who predicted that there’d be a soft landing to housing bubble in 2007. The same banking experts. The smartest minds.
They don’t know. They’re making it up as they go along. I could study “the science” for 24 hours and I’d be better placed to make decisions on what to do rather than these clowns. They’re overpaid failures. People who couldn’t cut it in the real business world were failure is punished.

So the experts know more than us, but you know more than the experts after 24 hours of reading? Got it. 
You'd know more about a big loaf.

You think they know more.

Look follow them. Listen to them. Go for it. What’ve you got to lose except you’re life. You think they’re right. That they know what’s going on. That they know what they’re doing. That’s fine.
But forgive me when I don’t listen to them. That I think they’ve got it wrong. That I think they’re a bunch of clowns who’re making it up as they go along.

So by adhering to the lockdown restrictions and social distancing measures which massively reduces exposure to the virus, i am therefore putting my life at risk, but you who doesn't or refuses to adhere to this are actually going to be safer off? 
By not leaving the house, i am more at risk? Right got it. 
You tear away. Go you visit your elderly relatives, go back to work and meet up with others and all the rest etc etc. Don't come crying when you're breathing through a machine because the science is wrong  Clampit

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 05, 2020, 08:17:24 PM »

You laugh at me because you see scientists and experts and you blindly follow. They know more than you. Deaths were unavoidable. This was out our control. But it’s not. The deaths were and should’ve been avoided. The scientists got it wrong. The experts don't know. Remember the experts who predicted that there’d be a soft landing to housing bubble in 2007. The same banking experts. The smartest minds.
They don’t know. They’re making it up as they go along. I could study “the science” for 24 hours and I’d be better placed to make decisions on what to do rather than these clowns. They’re overpaid failures. People who couldn’t cut it in the real business world were failure is punished.

So the experts know more than us, but you know more than the experts after 24 hours of reading? Got it. 
You'd know more about a big loaf.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly

« on: May 05, 2020, 08:11:03 PM »

Angelo you've said the same thing about 10 times, you're like a broken record

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: May 05, 2020, 08:08:20 PM »

Anyone defending the science or those delivering it are part of the problem. They’ve got it wrong. They’re making it up as they go along. They don’t know what they’re doing. The game is up. People see these frauds for what they are, bluffers and chancers.

So who and what are you relying on trailer?

Certainly not information from an amateur organisation that took China’s word for it or indeed the U.K. governments who are in charge of the 2nd worst death toll in the world!
Time everyone woke up.

He didn’t ask what you’re not relying on. It’s best if you answered the question.

The science is extremely flawed. I trust none of it. The so called experts have been proven wrong. These are the facts and they’re are undisputed.

Not facts at all. Can you explain how a lockdown to minimise the spread of the infection is scientifically wrong, or what you would suggest in its place?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread

« on: May 04, 2020, 07:04:08 PM »

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2020/05/04/dejan-lovren-thinks-coronavirus-is-a-hoax-and-is-anti-vaccination/

Lovren would appear to be not the sharpest tool in the box, if the linked info is true.

Sure you just have to watch him trying to play football to know that

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.

« on: May 01, 2020, 04:25:31 PM »

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/11981791/coronavirus-government-stepping-up-plans-for-return-of-sport-says-culture-secretary
https://www.premierleague.com/news/1663603

Sparing a thought again today for the Null and Void brigade
LFC Champions again olé olé

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.

« on: April 30, 2020, 01:35:26 PM »

Whatever about resuming the league in England, it'll be an awful spectacle. Liverpool if they win 2 games they're champions, are they gonna keep playing their best side? Keep trying? Same for mid table clubs with nothing to play for. It'll be terrible. Crown Liverpool champs and just scrap the rest of the games.

Liverpool are the Champions, I don't think anyone is going to argue that. It's everything else that follows is the problem. Liverpool fans go bananas and take to streets in and around Anfield once confirmed - which you would imagine they will, it'll be hard after whatever amount of years for them to restrain obviously it'll be social media led and nothing official.

Then you've the European spots to decide....So is the top 4, the top 4? Realistically....could anyone argue if that was kept? United were in a bit of form before the virus cancelled everything but I don't think they had been in top 4 at any point in season and they'd probably accept that knowing they are next in line should City actually get banned next year (I think it'll be frozen personally).

There is a European Spot at stake in the FA Cup which won't be finished, so that will appease the next in line, is that Wolves or Sheff Utd, not entirely sure.

Those in the middle....probably could be bought off, I understand each place in the EPL is worth X million...but surely that wouldn't be a problem for the majority of 8 to 14th.

The major problem is 20 to 15. That's a mess. I don't know how you could relegate any of them to be honest - Might be the better option for sake of bloodspill and long, long legal battles to bring up 3 and relegate 6 the next year then regulate as appropriate down?

Which 3 go up?  Minefield that too. Leeds were 2nd this time last year and didn't go up.  30 odd points to play for in the championship I believe.  Impossible to predict that. As harsh as it is, I don't think you can promote any of them and I don't think any of the 3 can be relegated from the PL.

Hahaha, do you support a team in the bottom 3 by any chance?

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.

« on: April 30, 2020, 12:17:53 PM »

PSG being crowned champions in France after their season was cancelled whilst other major European leagues about to be given the go-ahead to resume. Looking like Liverpool will be crowned Champions either way. Sparing a thought for the Null and Void brigade today, they must be hurting