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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 02:27:00 PM »
You're living in fantasy land as you ran away when you were made a fool of on this the last time but nice to see you align yourself with the likes of Lenny here.

We do need to mind going Canavan. Ronan O'Neill is a classic example of what can happen an underage star forward who is moved up to senior level goo quick and not properly handled on a physical level.

I think it was at the mention of O'Neill that you took for the gills last time around.

I think it would be wiser for not to project your own contradictions onto me.
You were the fool. I left you howling at the moon after you randomly mistaken me for another poster and I jumped all over it and caught you out. It was comedy gold. Therefore I said good luck and spared you the chance of further embarrassment as Iíd already explained my points thoroughly, as you get on like a broken record and regurgitate the same thing post after post. I see that still irks at you.

But anyway back to the point. This was about your contradictory remark regarding size, that you used to beat another county with. You have now changed the subject to refer to a previous debate (because you have been caught as being a hypocrite), in which I thoroughly explained why canavan doesnít need to be minded. But you have been caught out and are back to projecting about a previous topic that has no relevance here.
You also claim to speak from some sort of pedestal of inventive attacking football, your county doesnít do that, and that it has been trained out of them as I said. You ignored this but funnily enough. So that is another moot point on your part.

Not sure what youíre on about o neill, and for the record Iím not from derry, Iím just pointing out your hypocrisy yet again and your arguments that donít add up.

Thoroughly explained?

Some revisionism there, what happened was you got caught talking out of your arse and ran away when I gave you countless examples of young lads who came through in Tyrone in recent years, were flogged, picked up a few bad injuries and didn't make an impact at senior county level. I have repeatedly stated that we need to be careful with Canavan, we need to patient with him and mind him. We have McCurry, Bradley, Brennan and McAliskey in the panel there this year, all much further down the road of their physical development. When you ran away the last time you did so on the provision that you don't think we need to be careful with our expectations and how we use a young player. I pointed out how on his Championship debut he had to be withdrawn after shipping a heavy knock.

You seem to be of the opinion we should not show any due care to a young talent like Canavan, we should attempt to curb expectations after one Championship experience and how we should not have to earn his sport against the likes of McCurry, McAliskey, Bradley and Brennan when those 5 players are effectively fighting it out for 2 positions.

It was at that point you ran off.

What I said on Derry is that they produce big lads with little attacking ability.

If you look at the elite level forwards about now - O'Callaghan, Kilkenny, Clifford, McManus, Murphy, McShane etc - they all have a real physical presence and real attacking ability. Derry don't produce players with attacking talent, they just produce big physical players.

Lenny wouldn't really know much about attacking football so I'm a bit puzzled that he is talking about that.
Yes, throughly explained. I explained why canavan didnít need to be minded and made a fool out of you and left you to howl at the wind after you accused me of saying something I didnít. You have no ability to debate which is why you regurgitate the same thing every post, and because you are bringing up a debate I already held you to account over. This is why your attempting to deflect from the fact that you have been found out again in this debate with more hypocrisy about your supposed jibe about size of derry and attempting to speak from a position of knowledge about attacking football, whereas in actual fact youíre from Tyrone, so youíre not.
And now because you know you have been found out, youíre doing it all again, going round in circles and bringing up past irrelevant points to mask the fact that youíre out of your depth. And I find myself here again, like trying to talk to a child. So Iíll probably have to bit you adieu again, because the only way idiots survive in an debate is to bring you down to their level.

More revisionism. You explained nothing. You ran away when you were found to be talking out of your arse.

Plenty of insults there but I have relayed to you why what you are stating is absurd and just like when you ran away the last time. You can't respond.

Ronan O'Neill suffered an ACL at the age of 19 and never delivered on his potential. We should be very careful in how we handle a talent like Canavan. You have some brass neck to say I'm out of my depth when you ran for the hills last time around and still refuse to respond to the points I have outlined.

Your whole post there has absolutely nothing of subtstance, it's full of fantasy events that happened in your head. You ran away the last time after you couldn't tackle the points. Once again you have failed to tackle the points. We should be careful with Canavan, we should be very patient with him. His club have been extremely patient and careful with him so far and they should be credited with that because sometimes promising young players are flogged in the younger days. He's a 20 year old lad and we need to be mindful of that.

But I will repeat that we should be grateful that we don't have dinosaurs like you anywhere near Darragh Canavan at present.
This isnít the debate but Iíll go over one more time, hopefully youíll get it into your head this time.
I explained numerous times and you went round in circles like youíre doing so again. No insults there either, I donít need to resort to that. I couldnít give a flying fk about Ronan o Neill or whoever else, I took you apart in that debate about why canavan doesnít need to be minded and left you to howl at the wind, I had no call to repeat myself anymore. I wonít get into that again, but because youíre out of your depth you feel to need to deflect and bring up a past irrelevant debate.

On this one, I pointed out your hypocrisy of you thinking youíre I n a position to talk about attacking inventive football and a derry poster isnít (youíre not, youíre from tyrone, where the slightest idea of off-the-cuff football is frowned upon, and methodical defensive snoozefests are encouraged) and your jibe about them only producing players with size, when in actual fact you were yapping because canavan didnít have the ďsizeĒ. Hypocrisy. Thatís all I have to say on both debates, hope thatís clear enough for you. If I posted in the vaccine and coronavirus threads Iíd have a field day pointing out your nonsensical hypocrisy, but the other lads save me the hassle as they do a good job of making you look like an eejit there too.

Glad to see you don't give a flying f**k about how ridiculous your argument is. Ronan O'Neill was a star minor forward who did his cruciate at a very early age in the Tyrone set up. He is a perfect example of why we need to be careful with Canavan but in your own words "you couldn't give a flying f**k". You don't give a flying f**k of the consequences of flogging a massive talent that could be a key player for us down the years. That was around the time you ran for the hills the last time and I'm glad to have taken this opportunity to expose your risible revisionism.

I'm just making the point that Lenny wouldn't know anything about attacking football as he is from Derry, they don't produce much in an attacking sense so it take some brass neck for a Derry man to criticise two neighbouring counties who have a tradition of producing top class GAA forwards for ruining attacking football in the GAA.

Lenny's identity is to spew bile about Tyrone football at every turn that he's forgotten Derry GAA has become the laughing stock of Ulster football.
No, I donít give a flying f**k for the random stories or history lesson you want to tell me post after post because youíre like a broken record, they are irrelevant to the topic at hand. I quit while I was ahead and saved you from further embarrassment, because youíre doing now what you did then, you should be thanking me. It is funny that when your nonsensical hypocrisy is spelt out for you, you resort to deflection, funnily enough about a debate where your hypocrisy was outed as well.
He has a point for what itís worth, as Iíve spelt out for you again, a tyrone man is in no position to talk on that matter, as the tyrone players wouldnít know inventive attacking football if it hit them up the bake.

They're not irrelevant, they are past examples of when we didn't handle young talents properly. You can label them irrelevant because they undermine your argument, precedent is a great teacher. Thankfully as we seem to have learned our lessons and both Tyrone and Errigal have been very careful when bringing Canavan into the team. We have not flogged him, we let him finish his time out with the u20s before bringing him into the team. It's important we continue to be careful with him and Canavan will be doing very well if he can hold down a regular place this year. He still has another solid year or two of S&C work to do for me.

Ah yes, you seem to have found a nice bedfellow with Lenny. Don't tell me you're actually not a Tyrone man?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

You're actually another utterly obsessed Derryman who turns up on the Tyrone forums like an unwanted voyeur. Deary me, have you lads any shame?
They donít undermine my argument. A player can get a serious injury at any time and at any age. Just because one player got an injury at a young age and didnít fulfill his potential is neither here nor there. One example doesnít mean thatís the norm, so it is irrelevant. But that doesnít suit your skewed agenda does it. He doesnít need to be minded, Iím not getting into that again.

Make your mind up, am I a tyrone man or a derry man. Serious clutching at straws being done. Whether Iím a tyrone man or not, your hypocrisy still needed to be outed.
If you actually paid attention you will find that I have already said that for the record Iím not from derry, but he still had a point nonetheless.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:57:35 PM »
You're living in fantasy land as you ran away when you were made a fool of on this the last time but nice to see you align yourself with the likes of Lenny here.

We do need to mind going Canavan. Ronan O'Neill is a classic example of what can happen an underage star forward who is moved up to senior level goo quick and not properly handled on a physical level.

I think it was at the mention of O'Neill that you took for the gills last time around.

I think it would be wiser for not to project your own contradictions onto me.
You were the fool. I left you howling at the moon after you randomly mistaken me for another poster and I jumped all over it and caught you out. It was comedy gold. Therefore I said good luck and spared you the chance of further embarrassment as Iíd already explained my points thoroughly, as you get on like a broken record and regurgitate the same thing post after post. I see that still irks at you.

But anyway back to the point. This was about your contradictory remark regarding size, that you used to beat another county with. You have now changed the subject to refer to a previous debate (because you have been caught as being a hypocrite), in which I thoroughly explained why canavan doesnít need to be minded. But you have been caught out and are back to projecting about a previous topic that has no relevance here.
You also claim to speak from some sort of pedestal of inventive attacking football, your county doesnít do that, and that it has been trained out of them as I said. You ignored this but funnily enough. So that is another moot point on your part.

Not sure what youíre on about o neill, and for the record Iím not from derry, Iím just pointing out your hypocrisy yet again and your arguments that donít add up.

Thoroughly explained?

Some revisionism there, what happened was you got caught talking out of your arse and ran away when I gave you countless examples of young lads who came through in Tyrone in recent years, were flogged, picked up a few bad injuries and didn't make an impact at senior county level. I have repeatedly stated that we need to be careful with Canavan, we need to patient with him and mind him. We have McCurry, Bradley, Brennan and McAliskey in the panel there this year, all much further down the road of their physical development. When you ran away the last time you did so on the provision that you don't think we need to be careful with our expectations and how we use a young player. I pointed out how on his Championship debut he had to be withdrawn after shipping a heavy knock.

You seem to be of the opinion we should not show any due care to a young talent like Canavan, we should attempt to curb expectations after one Championship experience and how we should not have to earn his sport against the likes of McCurry, McAliskey, Bradley and Brennan when those 5 players are effectively fighting it out for 2 positions.

It was at that point you ran off.

What I said on Derry is that they produce big lads with little attacking ability.

If you look at the elite level forwards about now - O'Callaghan, Kilkenny, Clifford, McManus, Murphy, McShane etc - they all have a real physical presence and real attacking ability. Derry don't produce players with attacking talent, they just produce big physical players.

Lenny wouldn't really know much about attacking football so I'm a bit puzzled that he is talking about that.
Yes, throughly explained. I explained why canavan didnít need to be minded and made a fool out of you and left you to howl at the wind after you accused me of saying something I didnít. You have no ability to debate which is why you regurgitate the same thing every post, and because you are bringing up a debate I already held you to account over. This is why your attempting to deflect from the fact that you have been found out again in this debate with more hypocrisy about your supposed jibe about size of derry and attempting to speak from a position of knowledge about attacking football, whereas in actual fact youíre from Tyrone, so youíre not.
And now because you know you have been found out, youíre doing it all again, going round in circles and bringing up past irrelevant points to mask the fact that youíre out of your depth. And I find myself here again, like trying to talk to a child. So Iíll probably have to bit you adieu again, because the only way idiots survive in an debate is to bring you down to their level.

More revisionism. You explained nothing. You ran away when you were found to be talking out of your arse.

Plenty of insults there but I have relayed to you why what you are stating is absurd and just like when you ran away the last time. You can't respond.

Ronan O'Neill suffered an ACL at the age of 19 and never delivered on his potential. We should be very careful in how we handle a talent like Canavan. You have some brass neck to say I'm out of my depth when you ran for the hills last time around and still refuse to respond to the points I have outlined.

Your whole post there has absolutely nothing of subtstance, it's full of fantasy events that happened in your head. You ran away the last time after you couldn't tackle the points. Once again you have failed to tackle the points. We should be careful with Canavan, we should be very patient with him. His club have been extremely patient and careful with him so far and they should be credited with that because sometimes promising young players are flogged in the younger days. He's a 20 year old lad and we need to be mindful of that.

But I will repeat that we should be grateful that we don't have dinosaurs like you anywhere near Darragh Canavan at present.
This isnít the debate but Iíll go over one more time, hopefully youíll get it into your head this time.
I explained numerous times and you went round in circles like youíre doing so again. No insults there either, I donít need to resort to that. I couldnít give a flying fk about Ronan o Neill or whoever else, I took you apart in that debate about why canavan doesnít need to be minded and left you to howl at the wind, I had no call to repeat myself anymore. I wonít get into that again, but because youíre out of your depth you feel to need to deflect and bring up a past irrelevant debate.

On this one, I pointed out your hypocrisy of you thinking youíre I n a position to talk about attacking inventive football and a derry poster isnít (youíre not, youíre from tyrone, where the slightest idea of off-the-cuff football is frowned upon, and methodical defensive snoozefests are encouraged) and your jibe about them only producing players with size, when in actual fact you were yapping because canavan didnít have the ďsizeĒ. Hypocrisy. Thatís all I have to say on both debates, hope thatís clear enough for you. If I posted in the vaccine and coronavirus threads Iíd have a field day pointing out your nonsensical hypocrisy, but the other lads save me the hassle as they do a good job of making you look like an eejit there too.

Glad to see you don't give a flying f**k about how ridiculous your argument is. Ronan O'Neill was a star minor forward who did his cruciate at a very early age in the Tyrone set up. He is a perfect example of why we need to be careful with Canavan but in your own words "you couldn't give a flying f**k". You don't give a flying f**k of the consequences of flogging a massive talent that could be a key player for us down the years. That was around the time you ran for the hills the last time and I'm glad to have taken this opportunity to expose your risible revisionism.

I'm just making the point that Lenny wouldn't know anything about attacking football as he is from Derry, they don't produce much in an attacking sense so it take some brass neck for a Derry man to criticise two neighbouring counties who have a tradition of producing top class GAA forwards for ruining attacking football in the GAA.

Lenny's identity is to spew bile about Tyrone football at every turn that he's forgotten Derry GAA has become the laughing stock of Ulster football.
No, I donít give a flying f**k for the random stories or history lesson you want to tell me post after post because youíre like a broken record, they are irrelevant to the topic at hand. I quit while I was ahead and saved you from further embarrassment, because youíre doing now what you did then, you should be thanking me. It is funny that when your nonsensical hypocrisy is spelt out for you, you resort to deflection, funnily enough about a debate where your hypocrisy was outed as well.
He has a point for what itís worth, as Iíve spelt out for you again, a tyrone man is in no position to talk on that matter, as the tyrone players wouldnít know inventive attacking football if it hit them up the bake.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:22:20 PM »
You're living in fantasy land as you ran away when you were made a fool of on this the last time but nice to see you align yourself with the likes of Lenny here.

We do need to mind going Canavan. Ronan O'Neill is a classic example of what can happen an underage star forward who is moved up to senior level goo quick and not properly handled on a physical level.

I think it was at the mention of O'Neill that you took for the gills last time around.

I think it would be wiser for not to project your own contradictions onto me.
You were the fool. I left you howling at the moon after you randomly mistaken me for another poster and I jumped all over it and caught you out. It was comedy gold. Therefore I said good luck and spared you the chance of further embarrassment as Iíd already explained my points thoroughly, as you get on like a broken record and regurgitate the same thing post after post. I see that still irks at you.

But anyway back to the point. This was about your contradictory remark regarding size, that you used to beat another county with. You have now changed the subject to refer to a previous debate (because you have been caught as being a hypocrite), in which I thoroughly explained why canavan doesnít need to be minded. But you have been caught out and are back to projecting about a previous topic that has no relevance here.
You also claim to speak from some sort of pedestal of inventive attacking football, your county doesnít do that, and that it has been trained out of them as I said. You ignored this but funnily enough. So that is another moot point on your part.

Not sure what youíre on about o neill, and for the record Iím not from derry, Iím just pointing out your hypocrisy yet again and your arguments that donít add up.

Thoroughly explained?

Some revisionism there, what happened was you got caught talking out of your arse and ran away when I gave you countless examples of young lads who came through in Tyrone in recent years, were flogged, picked up a few bad injuries and didn't make an impact at senior county level. I have repeatedly stated that we need to be careful with Canavan, we need to patient with him and mind him. We have McCurry, Bradley, Brennan and McAliskey in the panel there this year, all much further down the road of their physical development. When you ran away the last time you did so on the provision that you don't think we need to be careful with our expectations and how we use a young player. I pointed out how on his Championship debut he had to be withdrawn after shipping a heavy knock.

You seem to be of the opinion we should not show any due care to a young talent like Canavan, we should attempt to curb expectations after one Championship experience and how we should not have to earn his sport against the likes of McCurry, McAliskey, Bradley and Brennan when those 5 players are effectively fighting it out for 2 positions.

It was at that point you ran off.

What I said on Derry is that they produce big lads with little attacking ability.

If you look at the elite level forwards about now - O'Callaghan, Kilkenny, Clifford, McManus, Murphy, McShane etc - they all have a real physical presence and real attacking ability. Derry don't produce players with attacking talent, they just produce big physical players.

Lenny wouldn't really know much about attacking football so I'm a bit puzzled that he is talking about that.
Yes, throughly explained. I explained why canavan didnít need to be minded and made a fool out of you and left you to howl at the wind after you accused me of saying something I didnít. You have no ability to debate which is why you regurgitate the same thing every post, and because you are bringing up a debate I already held you to account over. This is why your attempting to deflect from the fact that you have been found out again in this debate with more hypocrisy about your supposed jibe about size of derry and attempting to speak from a position of knowledge about attacking football, whereas in actual fact youíre from Tyrone, so youíre not.
And now because you know you have been found out, youíre doing it all again, going round in circles and bringing up past irrelevant points to mask the fact that youíre out of your depth. And I find myself here again, like trying to talk to a child. So Iíll probably have to bit you adieu again, because the only way idiots survive in an debate is to bring you down to their level.

More revisionism. You explained nothing. You ran away when you were found to be talking out of your arse.

Plenty of insults there but I have relayed to you why what you are stating is absurd and just like when you ran away the last time. You can't respond.

Ronan O'Neill suffered an ACL at the age of 19 and never delivered on his potential. We should be very careful in how we handle a talent like Canavan. You have some brass neck to say I'm out of my depth when you ran for the hills last time around and still refuse to respond to the points I have outlined.

Your whole post there has absolutely nothing of subtstance, it's full of fantasy events that happened in your head. You ran away the last time after you couldn't tackle the points. Once again you have failed to tackle the points. We should be careful with Canavan, we should be very patient with him. His club have been extremely patient and careful with him so far and they should be credited with that because sometimes promising young players are flogged in the younger days. He's a 20 year old lad and we need to be mindful of that.

But I will repeat that we should be grateful that we don't have dinosaurs like you anywhere near Darragh Canavan at present.
This isnít the debate but Iíll go over one more time, hopefully youíll get it into your head this time.
I explained numerous times and you went round in circles like youíre doing so again. No insults there either, I donít need to resort to that. I couldnít give a flying fk about Ronan o Neill or whoever else, I took you apart in that debate about why canavan doesnít need to be minded and left you to howl at the wind, I had no call to repeat myself anymore. I wonít get into that again, but because youíre out of your depth you feel to need to deflect and bring up a past irrelevant debate.

On this one, I pointed out your hypocrisy of you thinking youíre I n a position to talk about attacking inventive football and a derry poster isnít (youíre not, youíre from tyrone, where the slightest idea of off-the-cuff football is frowned upon, and methodical defensive snoozefests are encouraged) and your jibe about them only producing players with size, when in actual fact you were yapping because canavan didnít have the ďsizeĒ. Hypocrisy. Thatís all I have to say on both debates, hope thatís clear enough for you. If I posted in the vaccine and coronavirus threads Iíd have a field day pointing out your nonsensical hypocrisy, but the other lads save me the hassle as they do a good job of making you look like an eejit there too.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 01:04:18 PM »
You're living in fantasy land as you ran away when you were made a fool of on this the last time but nice to see you align yourself with the likes of Lenny here.

We do need to mind going Canavan. Ronan O'Neill is a classic example of what can happen an underage star forward who is moved up to senior level goo quick and not properly handled on a physical level.

I think it was at the mention of O'Neill that you took for the gills last time around.

I think it would be wiser for not to project your own contradictions onto me.
You were the fool. I left you howling at the moon after you randomly mistaken me for another poster and I jumped all over it and caught you out. It was comedy gold. Therefore I said good luck and spared you the chance of further embarrassment as Iíd already explained my points thoroughly, as you get on like a broken record and regurgitate the same thing post after post. I see that still irks at you.

But anyway back to the point. This was about your contradictory remark regarding size, that you used to beat another county with. You have now changed the subject to refer to a previous debate (because you have been caught as being a hypocrite), in which I thoroughly explained why canavan doesnít need to be minded. But you have been caught out and are back to projecting about a previous topic that has no relevance here.
You also claim to speak from some sort of pedestal of inventive attacking football, your county doesnít do that, and that it has been trained out of them as I said. You ignored this but funnily enough. So that is another moot point on your part.

Not sure what youíre on about o neill, and for the record Iím not from derry, Iím just pointing out your hypocrisy yet again and your arguments that donít add up.

Thoroughly explained?

Some revisionism there, what happened was you got caught talking out of your arse and ran away when I gave you countless examples of young lads who came through in Tyrone in recent years, were flogged, picked up a few bad injuries and didn't make an impact at senior county level. I have repeatedly stated that we need to be careful with Canavan, we need to patient with him and mind him. We have McCurry, Bradley, Brennan and McAliskey in the panel there this year, all much further down the road of their physical development. When you ran away the last time you did so on the provision that you don't think we need to be careful with our expectations and how we use a young player. I pointed out how on his Championship debut he had to be withdrawn after shipping a heavy knock.

You seem to be of the opinion we should not show any due care to a young talent like Canavan, we should attempt to curb expectations after one Championship experience and how we should not have to earn his sport against the likes of McCurry, McAliskey, Bradley and Brennan when those 5 players are effectively fighting it out for 2 positions.

It was at that point you ran off.

What I said on Derry is that they produce big lads with little attacking ability.

If you look at the elite level forwards about now - O'Callaghan, Kilkenny, Clifford, McManus, Murphy, McShane etc - they all have a real physical presence and real attacking ability. Derry don't produce players with attacking talent, they just produce big physical players.

Lenny wouldn't really know much about attacking football so I'm a bit puzzled that he is talking about that.
Yes, throughly explained. I explained why canavan didnít need to be minded and made a fool out of you and left you to howl at the wind after you accused me of saying something I didnít. You have no ability to debate which is why you regurgitate the same thing every post, and because you are bringing up a debate I already held you to account over. This is why youíre attempting to deflect from the fact that you have been found out again in this debate with more hypocrisy about your supposed jibe about size of derry and attempting to speak from a position of knowledge about attacking football, whereas in actual fact youíre from Tyrone, so youíre not able to talk on that.
And now because you know you have been found out, youíre doing it all again, going round in circles and bringing up past irrelevant points to mask the fact that youíre out of your depth. And I find myself here again, like trying to talk to a child. So Iíll probably have to bit you adieu again, because the only way idiots survive in a debate is to bring you down to their level.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:38:46 AM »
You're living in fantasy land as you ran away when you were made a fool of on this the last time but nice to see you align yourself with the likes of Lenny here.

We do need to mind going Canavan. Ronan O'Neill is a classic example of what can happen an underage star forward who is moved up to senior level goo quick and not properly handled on a physical level.

I think it was at the mention of O'Neill that you took for the gills last time around.

I think it would be wiser for not to project your own contradictions onto me.
You were the fool. I left you howling at the moon after you randomly mistaken me for another poster and I jumped all over it and caught you out. It was comedy gold. Therefore I said good luck and spared you the chance of further embarrassment as Iíd already explained my points thoroughly, as you get on like a broken record and regurgitate the same thing post after post. I see that still irks at you.

But anyway back to the point. This was about your contradictory remark regarding size, that you used to beat another county with. You have now changed the subject to refer to a previous debate (because you have been caught as being a hypocrite), in which I thoroughly explained why canavan doesnít need to be minded. But you have been caught out and are back to projecting about a previous topic that has no relevance here.
You also claim to speak from some sort of pedestal of inventive attacking football, your county doesnít do that, and that it has been trained out of them as I said. You ignored this but funnily enough. So that is another moot point on your part.

Not sure what youíre on about o neill, and for the record Iím not from derry, Iím just pointing out your hypocrisy yet again and your arguments that donít add up.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:28:48 AM »
And Iíve already explained why this claim is unsubstantiated, hypothetical and hypocritical.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:20:41 AM »
Shambles of a season i dont think Calum Mc Gregor is captain or leader material,the midfield today soro,turnbull,mc gregor,johnston,frimpong,should have had enough about them to trouble livingston they were dominated physically all day,rogic is  finished but isnt a striker,i think change is the only way forward.

Change is needed with Lennon for sure but goes deeper than that - a lot deeper.

Board needs cleaned out - not fit for purpose.

This years, or all years, has been a total disgrace.  The club has been run dow this past 4 or 5 years.

Now in a way, I understand why Brendan Rogers left.  He understood what was going on behind the seems with the board.

If Lennon had walked in October, Celtic fans would have held him high esteem.  Now they despise him.

Rodgers was absolutely justified to leave the job. I don't blame him one iota for it but the way he left, mid season with a treble treble to wrap up will always leave a sour taste in the mouth. He should have bit his tongue, finished out the season and walked with his head held high. Had that happened he would have had a large swell of goodwill in what he achieved and understanding that Lawwell was the barrier to Celtic looking to kick on another level. Instead he left with in a cloud, with fans upset and angry at the way he left and took the heat off Lawwell.

Lennon has dined out on the Celtic man thing for far too long. He was blessed to play for a Celtic, an ordinary enough player, we never had to fight off interest from bigger teams for him, he played well past his sell by date for him. I can remember the embarrassing images of him being destroyed by Kaka in the CL. He'd never have done anything in management only for the Celtic job, he's a yes man, happy to do whatever the boss tells him to as he knows there's never going to be another job of this magnitude for him. Overall he's not a Celtic fan, he's a mercenary - if he was good enough he would have walked out on Celtic but he was blessed to play for and manage the club.

3 goals in 214 games for Celtic. A poor man's Peter Grant.

Anyway you are 100% on the situation not improving until Lawwell is rooted out of the job. Lennon didn't appoint himself afterall. It's an old boys club, when we need to go for a coach we get a guy in from f**king Peterborough because he's Gordon Strachan's son. John Kennedy is clearly a lifer there who is Lawwell's snitch. The whole management and coaching team have to go and then the board have to follow.

It's important all the fans follow in line with The Celtic Trust and do not renew their season ticket until Lawwell goes.
This is just wrong, and contradictory.
How can you be a mercenary if you gave most of your playing and managerial career to a club, the one he supports. Contradictory statement, and shows he is anything but a mercenary.
Saying he would have walked out if he was good enough (for what), as well is also nonsense. You don't know that. You're actually knocking him because he didn't go to a bigger club. Not sure what your point is there as you have been looking him out.

No contradictions there at all. Lennon didn't give his whole career to Celtic. Nobody ever came in for him when he was a Celtic player or manager, when he left Celtic his next port of call were Nottingham Forest and Wycombe and then Bolton/Hibs.

He is and was a mercenary, if he was any good he'd have been off at the first chance for more money but the bottom line was he was a very average player and an absolutely clueless manager.

What bigger clubs came in for him. I'm speaking about reality here. Celtic was the absolute peak of Lennon's career, for player of his ability he was absolutely blessed to play so many games for Celtic.

A poor man's Peter Grant.
I said most of his career.
You claimed he would be a mercenary if he left to go to a bigger club, he didnít leave to go to a bigger club. So calling him a mercenary is unsubstantiated and quite frankly wrong, and his Celtic career, has proven that he is anything but a mercenary. Your hypothetical and hypocritical claims donít hold water.

So what bigger clubs came in for him? Come on then, spit it out.

No bigger clubs came in for him because he had maxed out at Celtic. For me he was blessed to play for Celtic as he was a fairly average and limited player. He had no pace, no flair, no engine, he played short backward passes to defenders who were not good on the ball. I'm trying to think of another midfielder who made over 200 appearance for Celtic and scored only 3 goals for Celtic. I'm struggling to think of anyone with as paltry a return as that

He's a mercenary as if he was a Celtic man he'd have walked away, instead he is digging in for a payout after destroying the club. Utterly, utterly shameless.
Iíll correct you again.
I didnít say a bigger club came in for him. I said he didnít leave to join a bigger club. Therefore calling him a mercenary is an unsubstantiated and hypothetical remark that is literally the opposite of being a mercenary. Saying heís a mercenary because he DIDNT leave doesnít make sense, and quite bizarre that you would be knocking a player for not actually leaving to go to a bigger club. Lennon canít win with boys like you. Damned if he stays, damned if he goes.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:14:25 AM »
Jim and Harte will be remembered in 10/15 years time as the men who nearly destroyed football with their defensive crap. Itís taken a great, skilful, resilient Dublin side to restore our faith in the beautiful game. Hopefully Kerry will return to their more attacking flair game and will provide with another great rivalry. I do think Tyrone will be a lot more attacking without Harte and they have some very good forwards also.

Yes, the game is so much more exciting now. Never been in a more healthy state.

Lenny is from Derry, they produce big agricultural footballers there so I'm not sure on why Lenny thinks he should be a spokesperson for what good attacking football should be. Derry have produced two good forwards in the past 30+ years and one of them was a Tyrone man.
Is that 35 years or less than that?

I'm just using 30+ years as a general term. Their AI winning team did not have any top class forwards. Some outstanding defenders and the best midfielder in the game at the time but a really ordinary forward line. Paddy Bradley and Muldoon were the only top level forwards Derry have produced in that time so I don't think Lenny is a person who knows what he is talking about when he mentions attacking football.

Derry have always been a team with a focus on size and defence unlike their neighbours Tyrone who have always produced players with attacking flair and inventive play.
Yet you were saying last week that young Canavan is too "slight" and doesn't have the size that you are bemoaning Derry for having now. More contradictions. And the past 10 years under harte, tyrone have done anything but be inventive and show attacking flair, and when they do dare to show it, its is trained out of them to conform to a methodical defensive snoozefest, so i don't think you are a person who knows what they're talking about when one mentions attacking football.

You seem to have a major issue with the truth.

I said nothing of the like, I said that we need to be careful with Canavan who is a young lad, with a slight frame just out of u20s and has lots of bulking up to do for senior football yet.

Canavan is young, small and has plenty of time on his side to develop physically. He has lots of competition this year and has already picked up a number of injuries in his young career. He has been managed very carefully so far at club and underage level so I hope we continue to do so rather than flog him like you are stating.

Thankfully we haven't had dinosaurs like you managing him yet.
Calling it the truth doesnít make it so.
You seem to have an issue with me pointing out your hypocritical remarks.
I see you ignored the second part of my post, not surprised.
On the first part, as I said you yapped about a player not having this size you are slating derry for having. By your logic, it is a stick to beat another county with, but anything goes for Tyrone, a notorious defensive team over the last 10 years, and not an inventive team with attacking flair. Your jibes donít make sense, nor do they add up as being consistent when picked apart.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: January 17, 2021, 10:07:39 AM »
Shambles of a season i dont think Calum Mc Gregor is captain or leader material,the midfield today soro,turnbull,mc gregor,johnston,frimpong,should have had enough about them to trouble livingston they were dominated physically all day,rogic is  finished but isnt a striker,i think change is the only way forward.

Change is needed with Lennon for sure but goes deeper than that - a lot deeper.

Board needs cleaned out - not fit for purpose.

This years, or all years, has been a total disgrace.  The club has been run dow this past 4 or 5 years.

Now in a way, I understand why Brendan Rogers left.  He understood what was going on behind the seems with the board.

If Lennon had walked in October, Celtic fans would have held him high esteem.  Now they despise him.

Rodgers was absolutely justified to leave the job. I don't blame him one iota for it but the way he left, mid season with a treble treble to wrap up will always leave a sour taste in the mouth. He should have bit his tongue, finished out the season and walked with his head held high. Had that happened he would have had a large swell of goodwill in what he achieved and understanding that Lawwell was the barrier to Celtic looking to kick on another level. Instead he left with in a cloud, with fans upset and angry at the way he left and took the heat off Lawwell.

Lennon has dined out on the Celtic man thing for far too long. He was blessed to play for a Celtic, an ordinary enough player, we never had to fight off interest from bigger teams for him, he played well past his sell by date for him. I can remember the embarrassing images of him being destroyed by Kaka in the CL. He'd never have done anything in management only for the Celtic job, he's a yes man, happy to do whatever the boss tells him to as he knows there's never going to be another job of this magnitude for him. Overall he's not a Celtic fan, he's a mercenary - if he was good enough he would have walked out on Celtic but he was blessed to play for and manage the club.

3 goals in 214 games for Celtic. A poor man's Peter Grant.

Anyway you are 100% on the situation not improving until Lawwell is rooted out of the job. Lennon didn't appoint himself afterall. It's an old boys club, when we need to go for a coach we get a guy in from f**king Peterborough because he's Gordon Strachan's son. John Kennedy is clearly a lifer there who is Lawwell's snitch. The whole management and coaching team have to go and then the board have to follow.

It's important all the fans follow in line with The Celtic Trust and do not renew their season ticket until Lawwell goes.
This is just wrong, and contradictory.
How can you be a mercenary if you gave most of your playing and managerial career to a club, the one he supports. Contradictory statement, and shows he is anything but a mercenary.
Saying he would have walked out if he was good enough (for what), as well is also nonsense. You don't know that. You're actually knocking him because he didn't go to a bigger club. Not sure what your point is there as you have been looking him out.

No contradictions there at all. Lennon didn't give his whole career to Celtic. Nobody ever came in for him when he was a Celtic player or manager, when he left Celtic his next port of call were Nottingham Forest and Wycombe and then Bolton/Hibs.

He is and was a mercenary, if he was any good he'd have been off at the first chance for more money but the bottom line was he was a very average player and an absolutely clueless manager.

What bigger clubs came in for him. I'm speaking about reality here. Celtic was the absolute peak of Lennon's career, for player of his ability he was absolutely blessed to play so many games for Celtic.

A poor man's Peter Grant.
I said most of his career.
You claimed he would be a mercenary if he left to go to a bigger club, he didnít leave to go to a bigger club. So calling him a mercenary is unsubstantiated and quite frankly wrong, and his Celtic career, has proven that he is anything but a mercenary. Your hypothetical and hypocritical claims donít hold water.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 17, 2021, 04:40:10 AM »
Jim and Harte will be remembered in 10/15 years time as the men who nearly destroyed football with their defensive crap. Itís taken a great, skilful, resilient Dublin side to restore our faith in the beautiful game. Hopefully Kerry will return to their more attacking flair game and will provide with another great rivalry. I do think Tyrone will be a lot more attacking without Harte and they have some very good forwards also.

Yes, the game is so much more exciting now. Never been in a more healthy state.

Lenny is from Derry, they produce big agricultural footballers there so I'm not sure on why Lenny thinks he should be a spokesperson for what good attacking football should be. Derry have produced two good forwards in the past 30+ years and one of them was a Tyrone man.
Is that 35 years or less than that?

I'm just using 30+ years as a general term. Their AI winning team did not have any top class forwards. Some outstanding defenders and the best midfielder in the game at the time but a really ordinary forward line. Paddy Bradley and Muldoon were the only top level forwards Derry have produced in that time so I don't think Lenny is a person who knows what he is talking about when he mentions attacking football.

Derry have always been a team with a focus on size and defence unlike their neighbours Tyrone who have always produced players with attacking flair and inventive play.
Yet you were saying last week that young Canavan is too "slight" and doesn't have the size that you are bemoaning Derry for having now. More contradictions. And the past 10 years under harte, tyrone have done anything but be inventive and show attacking flair, and when they do dare to show it, its is trained out of them to conform to a methodical defensive snoozefest, so i don't think you are a person who knows what they're talking about when one mentions attacking football.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: January 17, 2021, 04:07:31 AM »
Shambles of a season i dont think Calum Mc Gregor is captain or leader material,the midfield today soro,turnbull,mc gregor,johnston,frimpong,should have had enough about them to trouble livingston they were dominated physically all day,rogic is  finished but isnt a striker,i think change is the only way forward.

Change is needed with Lennon for sure but goes deeper than that - a lot deeper.

Board needs cleaned out - not fit for purpose.

This years, or all years, has been a total disgrace.  The club has been run dow this past 4 or 5 years.

Now in a way, I understand why Brendan Rogers left.  He understood what was going on behind the seems with the board.

If Lennon had walked in October, Celtic fans would have held him high esteem.  Now they despise him.

Rodgers was absolutely justified to leave the job. I don't blame him one iota for it but the way he left, mid season with a treble treble to wrap up will always leave a sour taste in the mouth. He should have bit his tongue, finished out the season and walked with his head held high. Had that happened he would have had a large swell of goodwill in what he achieved and understanding that Lawwell was the barrier to Celtic looking to kick on another level. Instead he left with in a cloud, with fans upset and angry at the way he left and took the heat off Lawwell.

Lennon has dined out on the Celtic man thing for far too long. He was blessed to play for a Celtic, an ordinary enough player, we never had to fight off interest from bigger teams for him, he played well past his sell by date for him. I can remember the embarrassing images of him being destroyed by Kaka in the CL. He'd never have done anything in management only for the Celtic job, he's a yes man, happy to do whatever the boss tells him to as he knows there's never going to be another job of this magnitude for him. Overall he's not a Celtic fan, he's a mercenary - if he was good enough he would have walked out on Celtic but he was blessed to play for and manage the club.

3 goals in 214 games for Celtic. A poor man's Peter Grant.

Anyway you are 100% on the situation not improving until Lawwell is rooted out of the job. Lennon didn't appoint himself afterall. It's an old boys club, when we need to go for a coach we get a guy in from f**king Peterborough because he's Gordon Strachan's son. John Kennedy is clearly a lifer there who is Lawwell's snitch. The whole management and coaching team have to go and then the board have to follow.

It's important all the fans follow in line with The Celtic Trust and do not renew their season ticket until Lawwell goes.
This is just wrong, and contradictory.
How can you be a mercenary if you gave most of your playing and managerial career to a club, the one he supports. Contradictory statement, and shows he is anything but a mercenary.
Saying he would have walked out if he was good enough (for what), as well is also nonsense. You don't know that. You're actually knocking him because he didn't go to a bigger club. Not sure what your point is there as you have been looking him out.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 15, 2021, 01:16:10 AM »
The DUP are the gift that keeps on giving
https://twitter.com/ChrisHazzardSF/status/1349784522813005828

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:26:16 PM »
Democrats who attempted a coup are shocked that Trump supporters are attempting a coup
People like you in your fantasy world of racist, fascist cosplay encouraged this and are complicit in this

Deplorable, shameless, criminal

Who was it again who said.....Ēthe resistance begins todayĒ after Trump got elected?
You're a brainless moron
More abuse from Sid.
Yet when anyone speaks out to him there's a whole crying match from him.
Hypocrite
On the contrary, I welcome it

Especially from morons like you

Unlike bed wetting racist shits like you and whitey, I can give it and I can take it
Except you can't.
You give it but you can't take it.
That's why there's a whole crying match from you claiming you're the recipient of abuse every time someone on here picks you and your arguments apart.
Pure hypocrisy and irony.
You're a racist buffoon who spent a week spouting naked racism on a football thread a month ago

Little wonder you're in here kissing the ass of this forum's biggest racist, whitey

That's all that needs to be said about you
I was calling out the fake outrage from the double standard snowflake brigade in relation to racism, which still stands, not that it has any relevance here but happy to correct you yet again.

I'm in here pointing out (again) your double standards and fake outrage snowflakery because you're abusing another poster, but you get the violins out when it's done to you and it's a whole crying match, just like when you were picked apart on the Nationalism Vs thread and resorted to the "boo hoo more personal abuse" that you spouted.
Dry your eyes you hypocrite. Learn to take it if you're going to give it.
Looks like we have another Angelo/Seaney on our hands

One for the ignore button
Id say most of the board have you on ignore ;D
No wonder why you got banned from the other one

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 06, 2021, 09:17:46 PM »
Democrats who attempted a coup are shocked that Trump supporters are attempting a coup
People like you in your fantasy world of racist, fascist cosplay encouraged this and are complicit in this

Deplorable, shameless, criminal

Who was it again who said.....Ēthe resistance begins todayĒ after Trump got elected?
You're a brainless moron
More abuse from Sid.
Yet when anyone speaks out to him there's a whole crying match from him.
Hypocrite
On the contrary, I welcome it

Especially from morons like you

Unlike bed wetting racist shits like you and whitey, I can give it and I can take it
Except you can't.
You give it but you can't take it.
That's why there's a whole crying match from you claiming you're the recipient of abuse every time someone on here picks you and your arguments apart.
Pure hypocrisy and irony.
You're a racist buffoon who spent a week spouting naked racism on a football thread a month ago

Little wonder you're in here kissing the ass of this forum's biggest racist, whitey

That's all that needs to be said about you
I was calling out the fake outrage from the double standard snowflake brigade in relation to racism, which still stands, not that it has any relevance here but happy to correct you yet again.

I'm in here pointing out (again) your double standards and fake outrage snowflakery because you're abusing another poster, but you get the violins out when it's done to you and it's a whole crying match, just like when you were picked apart on the Nationalism Vs thread and resorted to the "boo hoo more personal abuse" that you spouted.
Dry your eyes you hypocrite. Learn to take it if you're going to give it.


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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 06, 2021, 08:57:19 PM »
Democrats who attempted a coup are shocked that Trump supporters are attempting a coup
People like you in your fantasy world of racist, fascist cosplay encouraged this and are complicit in this

Deplorable, shameless, criminal

Who was it again who said.....Ēthe resistance begins todayĒ after Trump got elected?
You're a brainless moron
More abuse from Sid.
Yet when anyone speaks out to him there's a whole crying match from him.
Hypocrite
On the contrary, I welcome it

Especially from morons like you

Unlike bed wetting racist shits like you and whitey, I can give it and I can take it
Except you can't.
You give it but you can't take it.
That's why there's a whole crying match from you claiming you're the recipient of abuse every time someone on here picks you and your arguments apart.
Pure hypocrisy and irony.

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