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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 11:12:44 AM »
We have been here before. SF poll well but on the day it doesn't materialise.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: February 03, 2020, 02:10:34 PM »
I get you, but the point remains we are 6 months in, and the only thing potentially legally greasy is paying his mott.
I suspect more illegality is happening in Galway.
I suspect more illegality is happening in Galway.
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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: February 03, 2020, 11:45:35 AM »The short version is, FF people mostly have their roots in Gaelic Ireland. FG supporters mostly trace their roots to the Norman invasion.
Typical McWilliams, finding an old wisdom that was on the go 40 years ago (it was always said to be the difference between Charlie Haughey and Garret Fitzgerald) and dressing it up as his own.
Tbf, Haughey was also a corrupt politician who created the brown envelope culture that endured in FF for 30 odd years. The history of corruption in FF is the reason I won't be voting for them although MM doesn't seem to have been involved in it himself
MM wasn't involved? Really?
It's amazing how the media have let this story slide away over the years without it properly being addressed.
Amazing.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/we-need-to-talk-about-money-miche%C3%A1l-1.560262
Wasn't aware of that, like you say it doesn't get much media attention. I guess anyone who was in FF during that period was probably in on it to a greater or lesser extent
When is the period where FF weren't bent?
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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: February 02, 2020, 12:39:39 PM »Haughey led FF off the right road. There remains a pre Haughey DNA in FF, which may have other shortcomings but it is not corrupt.Bullshit. Dev was fond of a bung, he trousered Republicsn bonds and raised the Irish Press for personal gain. Taca was shaking down property developers in the 60s.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: February 01, 2020, 10:54:00 AM »Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?
Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend
What government monies have the GAA mismanaged or wasted?
Do you think PuC looks like a €110m stadium?
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General discussion / Re: 3 children found dead in a house in Dublin
« on: January 31, 2020, 08:25:44 PM »You genuinely cannot provide a full judgement on this or any such case without knowing the whole facts. We live in a world today where we are so fast to pass judgement and be seen to pass judgement. This woman could have had severe mental health issues, chronically depressed, maybe some history of being subjected to violence, maybe some history of subjecting others to violence, she may just be evil as someone stated above but to be honest with the images of those 3 darlings I don’t believe that is the case.
To kill a child is horrendous but when someone’s mind goes it is hard to seen reason at all. Wait till the evidence comes out then make judgements.
I think the judgements were a lot nicer than in the Hawe case.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: January 31, 2020, 05:40:28 PM ».the government bailing out the FAI again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences. Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?He is being investigated by the OCDE.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.
Will he do time?
For what?
It would be nice for people like himself and the Anglo lads to be held toaccount, but as it stands, the only law I can see being pushed, if even broken, was his squeeze as a consultant.
the stupid money he was paid and they he ruled with an ironfist us the FAI's fault but not criminal but if he lied to an auditor that would be an offense as it is a company in receipt of Government money and any such lie would have tax implication, but according to my lawyer he didn't do any of that surely
If...
What do you think is going on in Galway? No sports body is whiter than white here. We know what his obscene salary was because they told us. What is the Ard Stiúrthóir on?
Delaney was picked apart by the media, not any agency of state. Look at rugby, their press are muzzled and would never ask the same questions.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: January 31, 2020, 05:36:17 PM »the government bailing out the FAI again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences. Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?He is being investigated by the OCDE.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.
"Apart from the alleged fraud, no allegations of fraud have been levelled against him"
Lets try again. What criminal offence(s) do you think he committed?
In my opinion the only one that might stick is paying the girlfriend a wage. But he won't do time for that, if it even gets as far as the Garda.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: January 31, 2020, 02:05:52 PM »the government bailing out the FAI again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences. Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?He is being investigated by the OCDE.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.
Will he do time?
For what?
It would be nice for people like himself and the Anglo lads to be held toaccount, but as it stands, the only law I can see being pushed, if even broken, was his squeeze as a consultant.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: January 31, 2020, 02:03:46 PM »Ahhh good oul "Soccer good Gah bad" man at it again.Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?
Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend
When the Government step in to pay GAA's unpaid Bills come back and slag them then.
Im bot slagging anything,wind it in.
You argued soccer should not get money as you think home helpers is a better use of taxpayers funds. They get a fraction we do, so...
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: January 31, 2020, 01:10:30 PM »the government bailing out the FAI again. Surely John Delaney should be prosecuted for fraud? He made a tit of himself at the oireachtas. FAI give him payment for €500k and yet he is allowed to run off into the sunset without any consequences. Surely FAI should have held off on his final payment?He is being investigated by the OCDE.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/government-to-provide-20m-in-extra-funding-as-part-of-fai-rescue-package-1.4156296%3fmode
The money to his partner aside, what fraud was committed, or is alleged? Bad management and corporate governance is not confined to the FAI, although it was a nuclear example.
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General discussion / Re: John Delaney
« on: January 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM »Disgraceful using taxpayers money to bail out that whinging shit for brains useless organisation.
How may hours of badly needed home helps would that money pay for?
Its a drop in the ocean compared to what the GAA get. Thats not a line I would recommend
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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: January 30, 2020, 02:41:14 PM »He is tight that FF simply aren't credible and want us to forget history. But the notion that FG made no mistakes is mindnumbingly stupid
Plenty of mistakes although some like water charges were unpopular choices. We do need in my opinion to pay for water, and many do down the country (farmers and those in rural water schemes). But the free stuff brigade are loud. Yes broadband and children’s hospital are astronomical cost but will be essential to our future. There’s no inexpensive way to do rural broadband and those talking about 5G don’t realise how much that will cost and requires transmitters every 500 feet. Good luck with that. They left the economy in far better shape than they found it and it’s ironic that Boris got a landslide for his poor Brexit deal that sliced off North and Leo and Coveney who achieved what is essentially the closest we’ve ever come to an all-island economy will be sent packing to the cheers of the British right and the Irish left (and look underneath and you won’t see much difference between that lot).
This shit spin is why Leo will be P45d in 2 weeks
Not spin - as a parent with a child who needed specialised care, this hospital is worth any money for future Irish parents who will need it. The future of work will see many working from home so broadband will be essential. I can still get 15mbps in rural Roscommon so don’t see why those types of speed can’t be given to rest of rural Ireland. There was lots of things in the past that were seen as a great waste of money that are now seen as good decisions. Knock Airport for example.
I am not arguing against the need for a childrens hospital.
The argument is the fact its the 6th most expensive building ever built and easily three times more expensive than the second most expensive hospital, which was a full campus.
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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: January 30, 2020, 12:02:56 PM »He is tight that FF simply aren't credible and want us to forget history. But the notion that FG made no mistakes is mindnumbingly stupid
Plenty of mistakes although some like water charges were unpopular choices. We do need in my opinion to pay for water, and many do down the country (farmers and those in rural water schemes). But the free stuff brigade are loud. Yes broadband and children’s hospital are astronomical cost but will be essential to our future. There’s no inexpensive way to do rural broadband and those talking about 5G don’t realise how much that will cost and requires transmitters every 500 feet. Good luck with that. They left the economy in far better shape than they found it and it’s ironic that Boris got a landslide for his poor Brexit deal that sliced off North and Leo and Coveney who achieved what is essentially the closest we’ve ever come to an all-island economy will be sent packing to the cheers of the British right and the Irish left (and look underneath and you won’t see much difference between that lot).
This shit spin is why Leo will be P45d in 2 weeks
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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: January 29, 2020, 03:28:14 PM »
He is tight that FF simply aren't credible and want us to forget history. But the notion that FG made no mistakes is mindnumbingly stupid