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GAA Discussion / Re: PAY-FOR-PLAY
« on: October 05, 2018, 04:13:46 PM »
Bit of a sidenote but they GPA and others should look towards what happened Cricket and Kerry Packer in the 1970's, they need a rich patron to sign up amateurs.
Of course this might never happen to the GAA.

How did he sign so many players?
At the time cricketers were appallingly paid - the Australians were in effect amateurs - and so, in Packer's own words, it was "the easiest sport in the world to take over ... nobody bothered to pay the players what they were worth".

http://www.espncricinfo.com/worldseries/content/story/323763.html



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GAA Discussion / Re: PAY-FOR-PLAY
« on: October 04, 2018, 03:40:46 PM »
Article on balls.ie relating to earnings of players saying.

"One GAA Player Said To Be Earning Circa €140k Per Year From Sponsorship Deals"

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-players-sponsorship-deals-387092

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 21, 2018, 12:38:08 PM »


Philly McMahon believes inter-county players should receive financial backing as the demands on their time continues to soar.

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/290582

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GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
« on: September 20, 2018, 02:14:08 AM »
Martin Breheny : Its time to use two referees

Interesting point made by Paul Earley on the quick kickout potential leading to more fouling and the increased speed of game nowadays. Never been a harder time to be a referee?!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-its-time-to-use-two-referees-35675499.html

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GAA Discussion / Re: Time to Split Dublin
« on: September 17, 2018, 02:26:54 AM »
Could you say that Tipperary were two separate counties playing as one pre 2014?  ???

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3nFDNfq6Y8

I remember watching this game years ago, had to look into the game in question 2003 Leinster semi Dublin vs Laois

If i recall correctly the half time commentators dismissed what Colm said.

That sideline interview really stood out in my memory from the usual, I thought to myself this was different!

Laois went on to win the game!

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€1.5m Million East Leinster Project

John Horan - GAA President

“The programme we’re putting in East Leinster [focusing on Louth, Meath, Kildare and Wicklow] will put that on the table for the counties and their bigger clubs: do they want to part-fund a position and, if they want to, they get a full coach like in Dublin. If they’re not in a position to half-fund it, well then they can get a smaller contribution.

"The funding is expected to at least double and even treble the number of full-time coaching positions in some if not all four counties"

From the Leinster GAA Annual Report 2017

I reflected recently on a previous annual report booklet where a respected GAA official recalled Peig Sawyers and the practice of ‘ag
bothantaíocht’. Michael Delaney was referring to the Urbanisation of East Leinster and the lack of action in trying to address this issue. Well
Michael, we have made considerable progress in this area in the last year.


In an attempt to close the obvious gaps, we made a proposal to management in Croke Park that an increase in funding into a four county
region in the province would be a great help. This was accepted and as a result a fund of 500K per year for 3 years is being put in place. This
was funded by 300K from central funds and 200k from Dublin’s budget. The first of these appointments of a new coach occurred in
Dunboyne, to which the club make a contribution to the cost themselves. This, I feel, will have a huge impact on improving our performance
on the ground in the East Leinster region. Other areas in the province will not suffer as their positions will be under constant scrutiny in
relation to their needs


taken from Leinster GAA Annual Report 2017 available at the link
http://leinstergaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2018/01/LConv_17_WEB-2.pdf

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 13, 2018, 01:25:23 PM »
Regarding Bricks and Mortar,

Dubs in the rough over closure of Spawell golf centre in Templeogue
September 9 2018

More than 900 people have signed a petition calling for Dublin GAA not to close a golf facility, including a pitch-and-putt course and driving range, that forms part of a commercial complex it bought last year for more than €9m.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/50390ea6-b38d-11e8-a565-f2666ba9742c

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 13, 2018, 03:28:23 AM »
found this informative well balanced article (2016) from former Kerry player Mike Quirke about Games Promotion Officers at the time (now Games Development Administrators) and funding relating to Dublin, worth reading in my opinion.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/we-can-all-take-lessons-from-dublin-winning-blueprint-403728.html


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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 12, 2018, 01:45:00 PM »
Jan 2018

"Dublin GAA has taken back the gym equipment that the county had funded and installed at the GAA's National Development Centre in Abbotstown."

"Dublin development and underage squads had primarily been using the facility but it involved usage by the senior squads from time to time. However, this arrangement is now at an end."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-gaa-take-back-gym-gear-from-gaa-national-development-centre-36480868.html

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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 12, 2018, 02:47:18 AM »
priceyreilly - I think people refer to the Commercial income/AIG sponsorship etc more often as its in the news more etc and more quotable. There are more sponsorship partners etc involved and the use of these can have benefits eg subaru & gibson hotel etc for the team and for their sponsors too. I would not be quick to blame Dublin GAA on this, any county in their position would/should do this.

On the Annual reports containing financial details some county boards do make them available for example Mayo's is available
and interests parties such as season ticket holders etc could look through and see where money is spent.
here is a link to Mayo's past ones -http://mayogaa.com/content_page/18068/ good luck with finding some other counties!

The figure 2.7m - Strategic Review Committee is about the plan to save the GAA in Dublin, I think a lot of people can't understand how this plan is in place but the GAA participation rate were/arent as high in comparison to other counties. If you take your county hat off and put your GAA hat on you would not like to see the GAA solely becoming a rural sport and the further possibility of it dying out in the distant future. I think a lot of people do not realise that its Soccer vs Rugby vs GAA vs other sports and no parish link as in rural areas. Take a look at the registered players vs county population figures to back this up, for a city the size of Dublin its inadequate.

Have a look at the Blue Wave Document - http://www.stsylvesters.ie/files/the-blue-wave.pdf you will see Pauric Duffy's comments and the Chairman on Dublin's strategic review committee. You could argue why put money into this and not into other counties instead but what would happen if you did nothing or not enough in the future years.

Incidently the GAA's Strategic Review Committee in 2002 recommeded that Dublin be split into two. heres the link https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/tale-of-two-city-teams-dominates-gaa-review-1.1047385, this has obviously not happened
but money has still gone into the Dublin Strategic Review Commitee. People argue that a monster has being created, however it was a difficult position to be put in a few years deciding where to allocate funds.

Just read that article from Dermot Crowe and he has made some valid points in relation to Dublin GAA. Would be interesting to see how the East Leinster Project pans outs https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/15m-gaa-funding-boost-for-east-leinster-project-34934104.html
GAA President John Horan - "We're not going around with our heads in the sand. We need a marketable product to keep sponsors going and we need a marketable product to get supporters to come, you can't have those big gaps that exist between Dublin and the rest. This is an attempt to address that."

I would be interested in hearing peoples thoughts on this.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Rule Change Needed to Stop Puke Keep-Ball
« on: September 11, 2018, 02:17:29 AM »
6th Sept - The AFL Competition Committee is meeting next week with a view to introducing fixed formations at the restart after a score
in the next season, this season had the lowest scoring points per game in 50 years and congestion has been an increasing issue
for the game.

"With defensive strategies improved, data has shown the effect congestion has on the ability of players to demonstrate their skills and move the ball from end to end"

"Introduction of the six-six-six starting position at centre bounces could see the first phase of play after a centre bounce being more open with forwards and defenders engaging in one-on-one battles."

May have some merit in Gaelic Football but would need another referee to police in my opinion.

heres a link to the full article
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-competition-committee-to-look-at-6-6-6-next-week-20180906-p50224.html

Cunny funt - great video of Mayo v Dublin pulldowns you posted to illustrate a need to change the rules.
Andy Moran favours a 50 metre style penalty to be introduced for it.
http://www.the42.ie/andy-moran-50-yard-penalty-call-3925202-Mar2018/

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