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1,500 attendance allowed at Final.
Don't know how many went on public sale at 4pm but all gone by 4.06.
I'm far from a let it rip merchant but 24k in an enclosed place like Croker and only 1, 500 in an open situation like the Hyde with acres of space around it....
Around 4,500 would be a similar % as the Croker 24k  and far more fresh air, open space etc.
Anyway got a ticket.

Croke Park = 24k/83k = 29%
Hyde Park = 1.5k/19k = 8%

Who is making up these rules and what criteria are they using. Makes no logical sense to me.

Was it not being based on seating capacity rather than overall capacity? It's nonsense in any event.

Div 4 and div 3 teams should not be playing to win Sam... embarrassing

Pat Spillane was a joke at half time and fair play to Sean Cavanagh for calling him on it. Pat's simple plan is give more money to Leitrim and they'll improve. As Sean pointed out you could give counties like Carlow, Leitrm and Wicklow millions and they still won't win Sam

Yeah you're right, better keep giving Dublin all that money instead, they need it so badly like.

During the 2002 World Cup there was barely a sinner at the Derry v Donegal Ulster Championship game in Clones (at a time when attendances were good) as they were all watching the soccer against Spain. when it came to the crunch soccer won.

In fairness they are two counties where soccer has a bigger reach than most, so there was a natural interest in it to begin with.

I have to laugh at the idea Dublin should be split and everything in the football championship will be great again. It devalues the Dublin jersey, will be of no interest to Dublin fans and more importantly who is going to pay for the new stadiums for both sides?

It's almost like Parnell Park doesn't exist.

Although given how often Dublin play there I guess it might as well not.

Sid as an aside. Tg4 Monday is the best Gaa show to watch. You will see more joe McDonagh games, more underage games. The Sunday game is full of analysis by people who generally aren't very good at analysing.

Also on division one benefiting teams Westmeath and down had big falls from division one. Derry too. Cavan are an example I reluctantly use too as they went from one to three in two years

Wexford had the best team of my life in that period. Marty Forde, lyng and now they have ben Brianna who is too good for division four but not a team. Limerick used to be better but John galvin's only come along every so often, likewise Marty force's. Sligo should not be division four and Laois should be nowhere near it. Neither would be if their house was in order.

The hurling for me undoubtedly proves the improvement in standard from these more competitive games.

The Monday TG4 highlights is a good programme but it's very niche, the floating public don't watch it, and it being in Irish doesn't help

So if you want publicity for lower tier competitions, you're going to get much there

Limerick is another example of a team who benefitted from the 2000s league structure - they gained promotion in 2003 and went on to top Division 1B in 2004, only losing to Kerry in by two points in the semi-final

Monaghan's modern rise started with a Division 2 title in 2005

I don't understand how people can say the Super 8s is elitist and reinforces the advantages of Dublin, Mayo, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal etc. - it clearly does - but then not see that an eight team NFL Division 1 does the same

In the last decade, six teams have managed to get into Division 1 and stay there for all or most of the time - Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal, Monaghan -  amazingly enough these teams, with the benefit of constant elite Division 1 football, have been the teams constantly reaching the business end of the championship

Teams can reach an eight team Division 1 for a year or two - Down, Roscommon, Cavan, Kildare, Meath have all done so in recent years, but they're generally straight back down, losing most of their matches by big margins - and that knocks them back

The point is, how many Laoises and Limericks and Westmeaths and Wexfords and Sligo and Fermanaghs of the 2000s didn't happen in the 2010s because the league structures helped to cut them off at the root

From 2000-2009, 17 teams reached an All-Ireland semi-final or won a provincial championship

From 2010-2019, that fell to 11

That's not a Dublin problem - that's an across the board competitiveness problem

GAA historian Paul Rouse makes the exact same point I do about this

Have to agree with pretty much all of what sid has said here and in the last few pages.

Very true, if only the Leitrim footballers got off their fat asses and got down to the gym in Carrick , football could be saved.
Oh, and gobbled up their Protein shakes and got their  volunteers out of their beds.

You'd miss the old days when any other team were beating Dublin in the championship and winning All-Irelands

Fixed that for you.

Good appointment for us. Has a fair bit of work to do after the last few years of sharp decline but has the pedigree to point us in the right direction. Getting everyone on board is important but getting the S&C right will be vital, it always struck me that our teams looked smaller and lighter than most opponents and it has certainly been a factor in our fall, it was an area we certainly didn't lack in when we matched Tony and co. on both days in 2002.

I'd imagine O'Hara isn't too impressed in being passed over.

Pots for the World Cup qualifying draw.

Denmark, Wales, Georgia, Cyprus and Gibraltar, haven't really played them enough of late.

[Tony McEntee recently provided a character reference for Aaron Brady.]

I was very clear that he will be remembered as one of the greatest managers and tours the country helping clubs out.
But we aren't allowed discuss the mistakes?

You've repeated completely baseless allegations after your previous ones were deleted.

It's despicable what you're at and tells us all the type of person you are.

I quoted the man directly. How is that 'baseless'?

You quoted him and made allegations completely at odds with the quotes. You accused Harte of issuing a character reference because he wanted to have Hackett available for Tyrone. This is why the post was removed. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever to back up that allegations and says a lot about you to try and defame someone about something you clearly know little about.

Hackett never played for Harte. He was supported by his family throughout, he had mental health issues and Harte was approached by his family to do so.

Tony McEntee recently provided a character reference for Aaron Brady.

On a slight tangent, I seen on twitter yesterday this tweet about the Louth chair Peter Fitzpatrick on local radio re McEntee and the Louth manager vacancy https://twitter.com/LMFMRADIO/status/1327997632921395202

Thought it was an unusually blunt rejection in these circumstances, I wonder is that the reason why?

Micky had stopped speaking to RTE before the 'pretty little girl from omagh skit' he stopped speaking to them when Brian Carty didn't get the big job, the skit came a few months after as far as I remember, the skit whether it was intentional or not added fuel to the fire but that is not the reason he stopped speaking to RTE

It wasn't months anyway, think the news about Carthy being overlooked came out in mid/late Summer and he wasn't the only one to criticise it from memory,  but shortly after that came the Murray farce and that was that.

Sligo now have a vacancy as well.

With Armagh moving away from O'Neills is this the start of teams starting to look beyond O'Neills who have the monopoly for ever. Just takes a few big guns to move and
O'Neills would crap themselves. On O'Neills defence they gear is top notch

We've had Azzurri and Masita and a few before. Think Fermanagh had a Gaelic Gear kit a few years back. These companies usually don't stay in the game long sadly.

Donegal actually won an All Ireland when Azzurri manufactures the kits. Unless a new kit manufacturer has serious financial backing it's hard to see them making much inroads.

I'd like to have a few different kit makers about as it's a bit boring with O'Neill's rolling out the same lazy templates for every county.

Are Azzurri still in operation and apart from Armagh is there another county with a company other than O'Neill's manufacturing a kit.

Waterford still have Azzurri

Had Sligo Azzurri also for a year or two a few years back?

Sligo had a kukri kit.  Think Clare hurlers had Connolly in mid 90s when they won 1 of their 2 all irelands. Kerry had adidas for a while.

We had Azzurri for nearly 10 years and Kukri for 2-3. Never thought much of their stuff but Azzurri's could be good or middling. This site shows the changes in kits over the years http://www.prideinthejersey.com/Sligo.html

Connolly did most of the Connacht counties during the 90's but think they went out of business after that.

Think O'Neill's do good quality stuff and yes it can be pricey, but then you look at what soccer and rugby jerseys are being sold for and it could be worse. From previous experience it seemed that buying stuff in their own stores were much better value than buying them online or in other retailers.

Saturday week in Salthill could be seriously embarrassing for us. Much more likely to emulate 1990 than 2012.

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Lot of the narrative is around county won't break the rules and things will be a lot tighter. Can't agree with that when Sligo manager Carew in paper today talks about having 60 players in on trial when gaa states it was strictly 32 players per panel. He also had over 45 players for a trial game against Wexford .

He's managing Carlow now.