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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: October 29, 2019, 04:02:10 PM »
Martin Kenny's car set on fire outside his house a few days after some of the neo Nazi filth declared him a  "traitor" who needs to be shot.
That because he didnt join the herd in opposing Refugees being located in Ballinamore.
He just stuck with the SF herd instead.

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 29, 2019, 12:35:37 PM »
Call it the All Ireland Shield and move on.


I’m coming around to the idea that there should be tiers. Except remove the “bottom 16” championship completely. If we have a strong league, then it becomes pointless. Like the LDV Vans cup or whatever it is called in England.

Instead, the top 16 teams each season - 4 Provincial champions (never runners-up), plus the 12 highest league finishers not including those 4 - enter a straight knockout AI competition.

This approach changes the emphasis for “weaker counties” away from teeing themselves up for annual slaughter in the championship, into scheduled targets and improvement over a couple of seasons, so that when they do make the last 16, they’re more suited to it. It’s a tad reminiscent of how the NFL playoffs work. You don’t enter them by default; you earn the right, and once you’re beaten, then you’re done.

Reduces county running costs by half, as most counties would be done by the end of May.

Reduces the strain on club v county in the majority of counties each year.

Gives an increasingly meaningful national league programme an elevated respect almost right up there with the championship, and this would be reflected in attendances and coverage.

Maintains provincial championships and structures.
I like this idea in general, with maybe some tweaks. Could live with it a bit more than being just cast off into a glorified B championship. In terms of the top 12 league teams I'd exclude teams relegated from D1 from inclusion in this category, but if they won their province (as Ros did in 2019) then they're back in contention. You could go something like:
Top 6 D1
Top 4 D2
D3 and D4 winners

And if teams in that 12 won their provinces then you would allocate the additional places to say, 5th in D2, D3 runners up, any from 3rd D3/D4 runners up/6th D2 etc. But relegation shouldn't be rewarded, it'd make staying in D1 all the more important.

Going on 2019 you'd have had Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone, Dublin, Galway, Monaghan, Meath, Donegal, Fermanagh, Kildare, Laois and Derry qualifying through the league, Roscommon through the provinces, leaving three places, going to Armagh, Westmeath and one of Down or Leitrim or Clare.

You could even have a round robin for the 16 teams if it came to it, with the provincial champions seeded, and the top two in each group going to the QF's. Would make more sense then how the group stage is shoehorned in as it stands.

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:38:06 PM »
Sligo voted for it didn't they?
2 ways out of " the wilderness" - get up to Div  2 or reach a Connacht Final.
Surely both should be Sligo's aim and capability??
Almost certainly, we would seem to be the equivalent of a loyal government backbencher for HQ.

I take it you didn't see Sligo playing this year. We're not winning the Tommy Murphy Redux/Paidí Ó Sé/John Horan's legacy Cup anytime soon. In any case we couldn't get to D2 for two years even if we somehow got on a winning run, and have to go to Salthill next May so that's not happening either.

GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:28:45 PM »
Tourlestrane won the Sligo senior final comfortably. Had an air of inevitability when they went 1-5 to 2 up after a quarter-hour. Coolera played alright in patches but bar getting it back to a goal margin in the first half never seriously looked like getting parity, and Tour finished it off strongly. The crowd for a county final was very poor too, sums up the general apathy around the county these days.

Only the second team to do four in a row in the county, they're talking of challenging for Connacht but I'd have my doubts, the standard of club football has gone seriously downhill over the last ten years, just as the fortunes of the county team have done too. We had two Connacht finalists in the noughties, one of them is now stuck in intermediate and the other is treading water in senior regularly too. Many clubs had better teams and were much more competitive back then. And yet remarkably for a team that's so utterly dominant in the county they had only one player on the Sligo team in this year's championship.

Bunninadden are playing Geevagh in the intermediate final next Sunday. Bunnies were relegated to D3 this summer but have taken out two of the favourites, and they have every chance of making it three.

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 21, 2019, 02:38:33 PM »
How do the qualifiers work now ?
I assume they are basically capped to 8 teams because the powers that be are assuming there will be 8 division 1 or 2 teams in the 4 provincial finals.
Does this mean the qualifiers can't begin until after the all the provincial semi finals are completed ?
Could a team be waiting for over 6 weeks for a qualifier if they are in the top 2 divisions and get knocked out in a premilarily round game like the losers of the Donegal v Tyrone game in Ulster next year ?

I am happy it was voted in, however i would of went to 3 tiers, Senior, Inter and Junior, like we have in every single county in the country, however too many would complain and play the victim.

Its still not clear to me in some aspects.

Are the supers 8s gone and back to straight knockout QFs in tier 1?
All div 3 and 4 teams get qualifier chance if they lose their provincial final, if they lose their first qualifier do they go into the Tier 2?
Does Tier 2 competition only start when all provincial finals are finished? E.G long wait for first round losers
Will New York play tier 2, will they travel?
The three dates are listed on the left so yes the so-called "Super 8's" are still there, as you'd expect given that's the only level that Croke Park give a shit about any more.

A terrible decision and it'll not improve the fortunes of those of us who are in the wilderness. But as long as certain people can keep themselves in favour in HQ that's what really matters.

GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: October 13, 2019, 09:39:55 PM »
Michaels won the Sligo junior final and Naomh Eoin the hurling. First time for NE after a few defeats.

As for the junior the neighbours winning only makes it worse, a title that was tossed away.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club JFC/IFC 2019
« on: October 13, 2019, 08:47:15 PM »
Ulster JFC

Preliminary Round - 13/10/19
St Patrick's, Lisburn (Antrim) v Collegeland (Armagh)

Quarter Finals - 19/10/19 and 20/10/19

Buncrana/Letterkenny Gaels (Donegal) v (Antrim)/(Armagh)
Glack (Derry) v Rock (Tyrone)
Blackhill (Monaghan) v Maguiresbridge (Fermanagh)
Killinkere (Cavan) v Bright (Down)

Ulster IFC

Preliminary Round - 19/10/19

Grange (Armagh) v Galbally (Tyrone)

Quarter Finals - 2/11/19 and 3/11/19

Kinawley (Fermanagh) v Glenn/Shamrocks (Down)
Donaghmoyne/Magheracloone (Monaghan) v Foreglen/Claudy (Derry)
Aldergrove (Antrim) v St Naul's/Aodh Ruadh/Cloughaneely (Donegal)
Laragh United (Cavan) v (Armagh)/(Tyrone)
St. Nauls and Buncrana won in Donegal.

Mayo / Re: Mayo Club Football.
« on: October 08, 2019, 03:32:20 PM »
Thus far no county title for Donal Vaughan since his transfer to Castlebar, anyone here disappointed for him?
Sling your hook there and leave that leading crap to your own county.

It is what it is at this stage and no need for public muck raking.
Indeed, everybody could see it for what it was.

In other unrelated news I see Ballinrobe barely staved off junior football at the weekend.

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: October 08, 2019, 10:14:27 AM »

"Since the end of August, for instance, his team have scored just two Premier League goals. To put that in context, that is the same number as Aaron Cresswell, Jeff Hendrick and Ricardo Pereira individually.
Solskjaer’s gamble on removing the deadwood and hoping the youngsters might step up has left him with a squad who redefine the term 'hollow'.

Maybe that is not his fault, maybe it is yet further indictment of the club’s serial incompetence that they have the biggest wage bill in the Premier League, yet do not have sufficient quality in depth to cover a temporary injury crisis. But whatever it is, Solskjaer is in possession of a team less in transition than accident and emergency.
Too big to go down has already started to be heard as an assessment. After all, this is a club with the most substantial cash reserves in world football. Even the Glazers would surely appreciate the need to buy in the cavalry in January. Except, at the moment, United are so inept, so impoverished, so lacking in direction, you could put Lionel Messi in a red shirt and he would pull his hamstring walking out of the tunnel.
The revisionist history of Docherty’s relegation has subsequently recast catastrophe as a necessary purging, one that enabled the rebuild properly to take root. Unless something happens urgently to turn around Solskjaer’s fortunes, we might get another opportunity to examine the accuracy of such analysis. And for those who insist it could never happen, that’s what we all said in 1974."
Ironic when you're usually so keen to copy and paste full articles that you don't do it for one that's behind a paywall.

GAA Discussion / Re: Championship Draw 2019
« on: October 08, 2019, 09:49:06 AM »
Oh great, another trip to Salthill for a hiding  ::)

GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2019
« on: October 08, 2019, 09:48:12 AM »
Senior Hurling

QF: 3 Nov. Sixmilebridge or Cratloe (Clare) v Ballygunner or De La Salle (Waterford) in Clare

SF: 10 Nov.  Kiladangan, Borris-Ileigh, Nenagh Éire Óg, Kilruane MacDonaghs, Clonoulty-Rossmore, Toomevara, Éire Óg Annacarty, Loughmore-Castleiney or Drom & Inch (Tipperary) v Glen Rovers (Cork) in Tipperary
SF: 10 Nov. Patrickswell (Limerick) v (Clare) or (Waterford) in Limerick or Waterford

Final: 24 Nov.
Loughmore are out of Tipp, Clonoulty beat them at the weekend. Eight left in it, and it's wide open as to who'll win.

General discussion / Re: Carrickmacross
« on: October 08, 2019, 09:38:32 AM »
Seems to be a right wing extremist Councillor called Trainor whipping up hatred.
Anyone who doesn't go along with the cosy consensus of the establishment will inevitably get dismissed in such terms.

Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.
It's such utter bollix, a blatant ruse to try and boost Morning Ireland listenership figures in the assumption that we'll all be listening in to hear these draws, as they had already done with the qualifier draws the last few years.

And seemingly it's just the quarter-final draws being done? So basically one team in Connacht, either us, Leitrim or Mayo, won't have any clue as to who they're playing next year or when. Not as if any counties have to arrange their fixture schedule for their clubs or anything, not that Croke Park would care about things like that.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club JFC/IFC 2019
« on: October 07, 2019, 10:28:50 AM »
Donegal intermediate final - St Nauls v Aodh Ruadh or Cloughaneely
Junior - Letterkenny Gaels v Buncrana

GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: October 06, 2019, 10:27:31 PM »
Tourlestrane v Coolera in the Sligo senior final.

Four in a row on the cards for Tour but Seanie's boys have upset the odds twice already, maybe it might happen one more time.

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