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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 07:37:46 PM »
I think that the Intercounty scene is a bit of a mess. There are benefits, many of them, associated with playing for the bigger counties. Some of these are occupational, which is a roundabout way of offering financial incentives. The biggest incentive though is the opportunity to potentially win something. It's what made those Mayo lads come back every year. We have very little to offer, relatively speaking. Eddie doesn't speak the same language as those who are absent. He played for a team that were competitive every year, and in the current context, he gets rewarded for his work. Good luck to him, but this is Laois, not Kilkenny

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 05:37:14 PM »
The world is turning Giovanni. We cannot expect players to slavishly commit to county panels while managers are getting rewarded. Or at least if they choose not to commit, that they don't subject themselves to criticism. They have jobs and family lives to uphold. No criticism intended of Brennan at all. He has a job to do and his frame of reference is Kilkenny.

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 04:32:46 PM »
In theory I'm 100% on your side clonadmad. But don't let the irony be lost on you. Eddie wouldn't drive down the road to train Laois for free. If he did, then his jumping up and down would be all the more meaningful.

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 04:17:13 PM »
I don't like seeing any of our teams under strength, but I could understand lads not wanting to go in. There's very little incentive to keep going back year after year. To those that do it, we are of course grateful, but I can think of many reasons why it wouldn't make much appeal. I would say that everything needs to be as close to perfect in your life to facilitate a long career in the GAA. We forget far too easily that the soccer players we look at every week get paid thousands and millions, and yet the lads we question on here get zilch. That doesn't sit easily with me, and I don't think amateur players deserve criticism for looking after the things in their life that are more meaningful to them

You suggesting pay for play?

Good luck with that because the minute you do that players are subject to employment law and can go to the highest bidder.

Thereís as much chance of the Laois lads winning an all ireland  this year as Patrick Horgan,it doesnít diminish his level of commitment.

The lads that are on current panel are bursting themselves to stay competitive,those that didnít commit have left them in the lurch,thatís the bottom line.

The mentality amongst many in this county is weak and soft.

Pay for play or incentives to play already exist on a scale well beyond our means or comprehension.

Nobody has been left in the lurch. To say that is to suggest that lads are duty bound to be in there. They are not.

It is not weak or soft to look after the things in life that mean the most to you. That can be family, job or health, or many other things for that matter. Unless there's a panel member on here, which I doubt, I don't think we are the right people to question commitment from behind a keyboard.

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 03:59:47 PM »
Maybe they felt that last year was as good as it gets? Realistically speaking, what is the most that could be achieved? I always think there's this misconception in GAA circles that if you train hard enough, then the sky's the limit. I don't buy that for a minute. There are so many variables that go into making a successful GAA team, and we negate many f them by being a dual county. We're a small county too, so defections are a bigger problem than in counties that could swallow that up. It's probably something that we're going to have to live with, and one day, the variables will be in our favour.

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 03:02:13 PM »
I don't like seeing any of our teams under strength, but I could understand lads not wanting to go in. There's very little incentive to keep going back year after year. To those that do it, we are of course grateful, but I can think of many reasons why it wouldn't make much appeal. I would say that everything needs to be as close to perfect in your life to facilitate a long career in the GAA. We forget far too easily that the soccer players we look at every week get paid thousands and millions, and yet the lads we question on here get zilch. That doesn't sit easily with me, and I don't think amateur players deserve criticism for looking after the things in their life that are more meaningful to them

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 - 2020
« on: February 02, 2020, 11:37:11 PM »
Armagh looked over worked to me. McGeeney does that occasionally and McNulty did it a few times when he was over us. We took to the pitch one day against Louth and we couldn't move. Armagh looked over conditioned and slow. It was noticeable how much shirt pulling they engaged in, and the break was a real problem for them. They had obvious advantages in midfield, and used it sparingly. I was delighted and surprised to get the win, but seriously underwhelmed by Armagh. They're better than that I'd imagine

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Laois / Re: NFL Div 2 2020
« on: February 02, 2020, 11:05:42 PM »
The supporters in Laois are an odd bunch. A few years ago, the stand was packed and the roof came off when Stradbally beat Portlaoise. There was a good spread of clubs represented last night and the place was empty. I don't get it. I never have done. It's like most people are happy to see players develop, but abandon them if they wear the county jersey. Yes it's too expensive and yes we're a bit of a mess in terms of lads drifting away prematurely. But they're still lads who play for our clubs, and because of that, we should support them. Otherwise what's the point in the first place?

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Laois / Re: NFL Div 2 2020
« on: February 01, 2020, 08:57:50 PM »
Bloody Hell, What a performance tonight,   just super,

Yeah I couldn't agree more. Those lads got through some amount of work. I wasn't expecting anything like that and even if they had lost, which they never looked like doing, they would have impressed with their honesty, A great team and panel effort, and as someone who was broken hearted to see Sugrue leave, I have to say tonight would give you hope. Armagh looked over worked , tired and slow, but then again we dictated the pace for all bar about 10 minutes of the game. Evan O'Carroll looks reborn.

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: January 26, 2020, 10:44:59 AM »
I think a commute to Dublin 5 days a week would be tough enough going. It's something we need to look at, whatever the reasoning is. There seems to be this revolving door policy with regards to commitment, and we cannot build anything with that sort of mentality. Some of the lads walking away are not replaceable.

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Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: January 26, 2020, 10:02:10 AM »
We seem to be hit with defections on a scale far greater than most counties. That applies across both codes. My personal feeling is that Laois lads probably have bigger problems getting work in Laois, and have to commute a lot further than most. That's just a hunch, and I have no data or evidence to back that up. Whatever is going on, the CB need to investigate why we are being stung so badly, because all the high profile managers in the world won't disguise or make up for the fact that we are struggling to keep lads interested.

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Laois / Re: OByrne Cup 2020
« on: January 06, 2020, 04:20:00 PM »
Don't be so naive blueandwhite, Nothing we say makes that much difference. They only have to look around them to see that something is badly wrong. The challenge for them I suppose is to make discussions about players who have opted out redundant. Somehow I get the feeling it's all we're going to be talking about. I hope I am wrong.

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Laois / Re: OByrne Cup 2020
« on: January 06, 2020, 09:57:41 AM »
Let's not start mounting our high horses here people. Is it really that big a surprise to see lads not wanting to commit? The Intercounty scene is a messed up place right now, and there is little if any enticement for lads in Laois and many other counties to devote their precious time to football or hurling. Eddie Brennan made me laugh the other day when he spoke about those not wanting to commit. He wouldn't be seen within an asses roar of the place if he wasn't get compensated for his efforts. There's a conversation that needs to take place, and it shouldn't be about why individual players choose not to commit.

When your captain, best forward and a recent player of the year walk away, off the back of a successful season, oh and the coach too, there's something badly wrong. Could it be that Intercounty participation in places like Laois is just not that important to some lads? And can we forgive them for that. I know I can, as disappointing as it is for all of us.

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Laois / Re: OByrne Cup 2020
« on: January 05, 2020, 11:19:37 AM »
I hope he goes on to be a massive success. I hope all those players I think are not good enough prove me wrong. Of course I do. But I hate that we seem to have to reset every couple of years and go over old ground to bring us to the point we were at two years ago. It's either the very definition of madness or flogging a dead horse.

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Laois / Re: OByrne Cup 2020
« on: January 05, 2020, 11:01:52 AM »
I don't know what it is about us in Laois, but we find it hard to accept that you can't just replace good players or managers with ease. John Sugrue was good for us, and Quirke is a big gamble. Donie Kingston was good for us, and Sugrue decided Gary Walsh wasn't good enough to play in Division 3. He somehow is going to make up the shortfall now we're in Division 2. There are others and I could go on, and we also have this habit of assuming that anyone half decent will automatically make it at Intercounty level. Some of the forwards we have playing at the moment are only average club players, and in all honesty, it's ridiculous to be even opening the door for them.

It's going to be a tough year, unless Quirke is a f**king magician as well.


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