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 1. N. Morgan

 2. C. Quinn

 3. P. Hampsey

 4. N. Devlin

 5. P. Teague

 6. R. Brennan

 7. K. McGeary

 8. B. Kennedy

 9. C. Kilpatrick

10. P. Harte

11. M. Donnelly

12. C. Daly

13. D. McCurry

14. M. Bradley

15. D. Canavan

- O'Donnell
- McElholm
- Meyler

Surprised to see two men added to the panel by Malachy

Ruairi McHugh
Conor Oneill

Was McHugh in the development squad? Has he been going well for the fianna?

Both men will hardly see game time, but perhaps an eye on next year. New rules suit both. Two quality players... Just a bit surprised at the timing

Has this been printed or just you heard it? Not doubting it of course. Conor Oneill underage next year for under 20s isn't he?

Heard that as well. I assume mchugh is to help out with the midfield issue given his height and altheicsim

Very strange call ups. If McHugh wasn't good enough to be part of the squad from the start of the year, hard to see what he can offer at this point with no training or games.
O'Neill undoubtedly will be a Tyrone player in time, good option potentially for the half forward line.

Surely no harm in sending the captain to take the toss? Even more so when not togging out - means everyone else can focus on the warm up?

But he was togged out, John Terry style, long story short - embarrassing

For me this is not embarrassing. Can't actually believe someone would get annoyed about this

I agree, strange that this would annoy people - over all the other things that went wrong on the day.

Surely no harm in sending the captain to take the toss? Even more so when not togging out - means everyone else can focus on the warm up?

Are many clubs in Tyrone being hit with players heading off to Australia or States? Loughmacrory and Carrickmore have a few lads heading away for a number of months.

Eglish and Killyclogher also taking a big hit.

Clear as day to win with new rules a team needs:
1. A kickout strategy that works
2. Big mobile men up the middle
3. Good strong shooters
  with brains.

You might say what is new but look at Tyrone in that context

Tyrone fail on 1 ( winning between 30% and (at best) 50%. 66% min. Required Armagh have hit near 90% in some matches this year.

Are dodgy on 2. Middle
Teague good but inexperienced
Brennan anonymous (not the cordinator he might be)
Kennedy injured
Kilpatrick flaky
Donnelly does his best but age and speed against him now
Canavan brilliant moments but overall weak,small and takes fancy options too often.

And Weak on 3. Apart from MCCurry shot selection weak (and he hasn't been fed the he needs often enough) Few 40m+ shots worked 20m in from side line. Shooting lines bad.

To make best of what's available this team?
Morgan
Teague ( move up 2nd half Quinn)
Hampsey
Devlin
Meyler
McKiernan
Harte (O'Donnell)
Kennedy
Kilpatrick
McGeary (?)  (R Canavan - last chance)
McDonnell (McElhom)
McCurry
Donnelly
D Canavan

I would like to think after Mayo game that we don't bother trying to play Ruairi Canavan at wing forward again, simply didn't work. Moving McGeary who has been back in form and wing back and one of our best players? Crying out for a half forward line and you put Meyler wing back even though he has played all his football at wing forward.

If we can get this out on the field and these replacements coming in, we will be as close as anyone.
Morgan
Hampsey
Teague
Quinn
McKernan
Brennan
McGeary
Kennedy
Kilpatrick
Meyler
Mattie
Harte
McCurry
Bradley
DCanavan

O'Donnell
McElholm
McDonnell
Daly
RCanavan
Devlin
Oguz

Historically: Jack O'Shea, James McCarthy, Lee Keegan, Pat Spillane

Sean Cavanagh surely the best all rounder ever?

[McElholm has been an underage star, but bit early to be calling him a key player at this stage, more of an impact player at the moment?]

Goalkeeper: Niall Morgan
Full Back Line: Paudie Hampsey, Peter Teague, Cormac Quinn, Niall Devlin, Aidan Clarke
Half Back Line: Michael McKernan, Rory Brennan, Kieran McGeary, Shea O'Hare, Frank Burns
Midfield: Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ben McDonnell, Joe Oguz
Half Forward Line: Mattie Donnelly, Peter Harte, Sean O'Donnell, Ciaran Daly, Conor Meyler
Full Forward Line: Darren McCurry, Darragh Canavan, Mark Bradley, Eoin McElholm, Ruairi Canavan

If anyone looks at that and doesn't see genuine All Ireland Contenders you clearly don't want to see Malachy or Tyrone to succeed. We lost one game against a rested Mayo side who had to respond after their first game, missing three key players in Hampsey, Kennedy and McElholm - in context we were vulnerable coming into the game and back to back performances have been hard to come by for all teams in the chase so far. So result not surprising, performance disappointing but no different than what has been seen across the other contenders this summer. Beat Cavan in two weeks, we more than likely top the group and are fresh for the Quarter final for a three game sprint at winning it. Very achievable.

Tyrone had no game from 26th April to 24th May before they played Donegal so don't think calling Mayo a "rested" team is fair.  Mayo's need to win the game was greater. 

McElholm has been an underage star, but bit early to be calling him a key player at this stage, more of an impact player at the moment?

Key players include impact players of the bench. When you consider the impact the bench has against Armagh and Donegal, losing them players contributed to not being able to turn the Mayo deficit around. O'Hare, Gray, Donaghy Ruairi and Harte had no impact of the bench. A full out Tyrone team would of had Harte, Teague/Hampsey, McDonnell and McElholm to bring in - second half becomes a very different story then.

Goalkeeper: Niall Morgan
Full Back Line: Paudie Hampsey, Peter Teague, Cormac Quinn, Niall Devlin, Aidan Clarke
Half Back Line: Michael McKernan, Rory Brennan, Kieran McGeary, Shea O'Hare, Frank Burns
Midfield: Brian Kennedy, Conn Kilpatrick, Ben McDonnell, Joe Oguz
Half Forward Line: Mattie Donnelly, Peter Harte, Sean O'Donnell, Ciaran Daly, Conor Meyler
Full Forward Line: Darren McCurry, Darragh Canavan, Mark Bradley, Eoin McElholm, Ruairi Canavan

If anyone looks at that and doesn't see genuine All Ireland Contenders you clearly don't want to see Malachy or Tyrone to succeed. We lost one game against a rested Mayo side who had to respond after their first game, missing three key players in Hampsey, Kennedy and McElholm - in context we were vulnerable coming into the game and back to back performances have been hard to come by for all teams in the chase so far. So result not surprising, performance disappointing but no different than what has been seen across the other contenders this summer. Beat Cavan in two weeks, we more than likely top the group and are fresh for the Quarter final for a three game sprint at winning it. Very achievable.

Division 2 RESULTS
 
Greencastle 2-10 Killeeshil 0-11
Aghyaran 3-3 Eglish 5-22
Owen Roes 1-14 Drumquin 0-15
Aghaloo 2-15 Coalisland 3-17
Kildress 0-7 Moy 3-14
Naomh Eoghan 1-8 Clonoe 0-15
Rock 1-13 Beragh 0-18

Tyrone ACL Division 1 results so far:

Errigal Ciaran 0-12 Trillick 1-9
Ardboe 2-19 Pomeroy 0-13
Carrickmore 1-15 Galbally 1-15
Gortin 1-14 v Moortown 1-16
Loughmacrory 1-16 Edendork 1-16
Killyclogher 1-18 Dromore 1-13
Donaghmore 5-23 Derrylaughan 3-11

Tyrone fully deserved their win. On the balance of play 5 to 7 point margin would be a better reflection.  14 points separated the sides at the end with how ruthless Tyrone was and Louth far too wasteful. All the Tyrone players talked well after the match all knew they were in tough game regardless of the margin in the end, sounds very competitive at club and schools level and that keep them ticking over for the U20 grade. 

Should be another Ulster winner of this competition next year with the last two U17 All Ireland finals all Ulster finals. 

Tyrone's team over the next two years wouldn't stand out as much as the previous 4. Although Conor Devlin, Conor O'Neill and Ruairi McCullagh are still underage which is a good starting block. Derry should be the front runners for the next two seasons.

Does Malachy call up some of the Under 20s now and get them into the fold early for experience for next year. Ben Hughes, Joey Clarke, Caolan Donnelly, Callum Daly, Conor O'Neill, Matthew Quinn, Ruairi McCullagh all look primed to have a role in the Senior team in time.

Before the Official first round gets underway minus Errigal and Pomeroy who COULDNT WAIT to play their first round who do we all predict is most likely to go down.

With Emigrating being a massive factor especially this year who's going to struggle to find the players necessary to compete.

Can we really look past the Promoted teams going back down again?

Be interesting to see if the slander usually dished out pre/mid championship to Errigal Dungannon and others passes over to Carmen this year or do they get another bye ball. For some reason their lack of ONeill cup success the last 20 years is completely overlooked or has it just become unremarkable?

Carrickmore are down potentially 12/15 players starting this season based on emigration, summer in the states, long term injuries, county commitments and hurling commitments. Hard to know what shape they will be in come September.