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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Kerry All Ireland Final 2019
« on: September 15, 2019, 10:20:44 PM »
Testament to Dublin that they were able to bring on Connolly and still win. Bar one sweet pass, he was piss poor and could have cost them the game.  Must be hard to watch for Dublin players on the sidelines that have been putting in the hard yards all year.

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Why are Mayo and Kerry "the big three"??

They form two of the three teams that have been at the top since 2008 and according to the results have been unbeaten by Tyrone in the championship since 2008.

If I was asked to back either Donegal or Mayo for 2020 I think I would favor Donegal to be honest.
These top 3 debates are a load of nonsense anyway as it's a top 1. Kerry, Donegal, Mayo, Tyrone could beat each other on any given day. They're just fighting for the right to play in the AI final and maybe get a weekend craic out of things before getting bate.

And yet Tyrone have not beaten Kerry or Mayo in over 11 championship games that really mattered, never mind the beatings administered by Dublin. So, on current and historical standing, Tyrone are behind Mayo and Kerry by some margin. The only debate is whether they or Donegal can be considered for the top of the next level down.

Even though Mayo were dumped by Kildare last year,  taught a lesson by Roscommon and hammered by Kerry and Dublin this year.  Doesn't add up.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are non-Tyrone people obsessed about Tyrone?
« on: August 13, 2019, 06:54:35 PM »
Because we f$$kin love it!

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you call this year a failure for tyrone
« on: August 13, 2019, 06:53:33 PM »
Haven't always thought this way(and have issues with some other things outside of the game) but right now Harte has to stay.  The first year of exploring new tactics and still in the top 3 with some exciting prospects coming through. As much kick passing to forward line as you'll see from any team.  Time for Col Cav to hang them up, though I'd say.  For those demanding his dismissal, I'd be careful what you wish for.  Harte's constant challenging for Sam seems to irk a few here and there's very much a 'Croppies lie down' sentiment from certain sections that spurs the man on.  I think there's a lack of appreciation for what it takes to be at the top table year in-year out and Harte has done this.  I would argue that his backroom could be bolstered with the right people to make some tweaks in the psychological game. The Dubs have this mastered. 

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you call this year a failure for tyrone
« on: August 13, 2019, 01:34:58 PM »
Would you call it a success for Mayo/Donegal?
Mayowestros won the League
Donegal retained Ulster.
3 other Counties won silverware

So, you are saying that Mayo, Donegal will be sitting back today saying, "That was was a successful season".  Really?

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1. Dublin
2. Tyrone/Kerry
3. Mayo
4. Cork/Donegal/Roscommon

That's how it is.

Tyrone would be ranked below Donegal, Dublin, Kerry given that they lost comprehensively to all three this season. The only teams you can rank them above in this list is Cork & Roscommon. Mayo would have more than likely beaten them had they met, they have shown repeatedly this decade that they can’t compete in Croke Park against good teams. On the basis of beating Tyrone well and drawing with Kerry you would have to rank Donegal above them.

Bar one performance against a below par Donegal I can see zero evidence for rating Mayo above Tyrone this season

Fair enough. It's tough to make the case for Tyrone beating them as well though, given how their season went.

Donegal got bate by an average Mayo team with injuries and had only one key player out. Not convinced that they would bate Tyrone in Super 8's.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you call this year a failure for tyrone
« on: August 13, 2019, 11:22:45 AM »
Would you call it a success for Mayo/Donegal?

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Donegal Marginally better but wouldn't back them to qualify.

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Was thinking of how they put it up to Kerry, Dublin for a half and Tyrone, plus good underage teams coming through. They'll be looking to better themselves next year. Maybe a little generous.  Roscommon/Kildare last year were woeful in Super Eights. Cork were better than that.

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1. Dublin
2. Tyrone/Kerry
3. Mayo
4. Cork/Donegal/Roscommon

That's how it is.

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At present Mayo and Donegal are better than Tyrone and have put it up better to Dublin. The Either way doesn't matter, but Dublin look 10pts better than any team this year.
Mayo, at present, got annihilated by Dublin.

When did Donegal put it up to Dublin?

Dublin are a million miles ahead of everyone. Fighting over the order of the next best teams is like bald men fighting over a comb.
As a bald Tyrone man, I'm highly offended...

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How can you say that Tyrone never got close in the final? This is a team that regularly hammers teams by 10-20 points and there was 4 in it with 5 minutes to go with Tyrone launching balls into the danger area and missing the target.  This horse shit of Dublin winning pulling up is a fanciful notion that I'd say the Dublin players themselves would strongly agree with.  Tyrone are around 2nd-3rd in the Country on championship form. Some people struggle to swallow this fact. Mayo are gone-Donegal aren't there yet and Tyrone Kerry will battle it out over the next few years with the kick of a ball between them.

Dublin cruised through the 2nd half. When Tyrone scored the penalty after the red card Dublin upped the tempo of their game and outscored them for the rest if the game. After the pen Dublin moved Howard back and he caught the last high ball put in.
Donegal realised defensive tactics won't win the big games anymore. Mickey Harte and Tyrone need to evolve as well
This commentary about defensive tactics is outdated by at least a year.  There was more kick passing in to the forward line yesterday than any game that I've watched this year and very little lateral passing.  The defending was no different to anything that Dublin do when required.  Had Mayo defended en masse after half time against the Dubs for 15 minutes, they mightn't have got so badly tanked.

Regarding the final last year,  after the penalty there were five minutes left and yes Dublin stepped it up after some terrible Tyrone wides.  That's not a team winning with the brakes on.  Tyrone were in the game.

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Tyrone are around 2nd-3rd in the Country on championship form. Some people struggle to swallow this fact.

It's nowhere near a fact, why are you doing this to yourself? The victory over Roscommon was their biggest result this season and they haven't beaten a big team in Croke Park in 10 years now.
How you can seriously not consider a team who has reached  several semi finals and a final in this past few years as one of the top teams in the country? What's the logic-because they haven't beaten a 'top team' (Kerry/Mayo top teams last year or only this year?) in a fictitious game!  The fact is that there was only a kick of a ball between Kerry and Tyrone and even many neutrals agree that Deegan rode us.  How we reacted to this was disappointing but that can be worked on.  Mayo (who were beaten by Roscommon)were bet out the gate in the other semi.  This clearly makes kerry/Tyrone 2nd, 3rd teams in the Country.  Why is this so hard to accept?

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How can you say that Tyrone never got close in the final? This is a team that regularly hammers teams by 10-20 points and there was 4 in it with 5 minutes to go with Tyrone launching balls into the danger area and missing the target.  This horse shit of Dublin winning pulling up is a fanciful notion that I'd say the Dublin players themselves would strongly agree with.  Tyrone are around 2nd-3rd in the Country on championship form. Some people struggle to swallow this fact. Mayo are gone-Donegal aren't there yet and Tyrone Kerry will battle it out over the next few years with the kick of a ball between them.

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If Deegan does act the ballix and we win, it will be good practise for the final.  I still maintain that niaivity cost us the final last year. When 5-6 points up Col Cav was remonstrating with the ref about a (Dublin trademark) 3rd man crossing type obstruction that prevented him from making a tackle in the lead up to a point.  I think the Dubs got another point when he was still out of position.  Shortly after, you had 3 of our lads disputing a Dublin mark when the Dubs were up the field scoring a goal.  This is the part of this team's psyche that will lose them the big games if it isn't addressed.  Need to stay focussed for every second no matter what the other team or the ref do.

Very true, we need to keep that imperturbable focus and discipline, regardless of what else is going on, with the ref and otherwise.
Feck it.  Sludden fell into the trap and then we imploded after the other free Kerry points. I suppose keeping the head is easier said than done when you are faced with the smiling assassin!

The lack of ruthlessness in the first half, I.e. lash in a few goals, cost us.  Think the team underestimated Kerry with one eye on the final.  Good luck Kerry-hope your forwards shine on the big day.  For Tyrone, keep funnelling through the u21's and we'll be up there every year, you can't ask for more than that under the current setup.

Why on earth would Tyrone underestimate Kerry or have one eye on the final?

What have Tyrone done to justify such an attitude, assuming complacency was a factor?

At half time Kerry looked Bate-losing it all over the field-possible reason to get distracted by thoughts of the final.
Eh, reach the final last year and come close to the Dubs near the end-beat and rattle them in the league?  Be ambitious?-is this allowed?

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