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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 19, 2018, 05:15:54 PM »
What an incredibly strange equivalence to draw.

Maybe, if it were an equivalence.

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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 19, 2018, 05:05:36 PM »
Most children diagnosed with these abnormalities live beyond birth. Some for months.  However short that life is they deserve it as much as me and you.
It's not up to us to decide who lives or dies. I challenge anyone who believes otherwise to watch a video of an abortion taking place and listen to testimonies from nurses and doctors who worked in abortion clinics and performed abortions themselves about what really happens....

Why should anyone give a flying f**k what the doctor or nurse thinks? It's not their body.

Would you intervene if you saw a woman self-harming or about to jump from a bridge?

If you have one, what's your point?

Tis a simple question.

It is, but one that bears zero relevance to the topic at hand, so I'll refrain from bothering to answer it, although the answer should be obvious.

The point is that in those cases we would intervene and wouldn't put forward the position that it's a woman's body and she can do whatever she likes to it. 

So I'm just saying that the argument that a woman's (or man's) right to do whatever she likes to her body (or variations thereof) is not absolute.  There are societal restrictions.

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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 19, 2018, 03:28:04 PM »
Abortion is nesscary. Whether you disagree what the limits of it should be, it simply is.

Thereís too many edge cases to say it shouldnít happen at all. The suggestion above that a woman should be forced to bring a baby stemming from rape to term is genuinely disgusting. Itís entirely a matter of personal choice - if the person wants to, there should be supports but no one should judge a woman who chooses a different path. Anecdotal cases as evidence is such a logical fallacy itís hard to see how it could be used to contribute to a wider legislation debate. That is position zero for discussion on abortion as far as Iím concerned.

I have huge respect for Michael Martin coming out and stating his personal position even if it is somewhat politically controversial.

After Repeal of the 8th, a woman presents at clinic saying she's pregnant and would like an abortion because she was raped.  Is that enough for an abortion to be carried out?

As it stands why would she say she was raped? The recommendations as they stand mean you can get an abortion for any reason up to 12 weeks.

You invented a strawman just to knock over there.

Point taken, I'm obviously not an expert on proposed legislation.  Genuine question...will there be scope for termination after 12 weeks or is it anything up to 12 weeks and nothing thereafter?

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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 19, 2018, 03:07:09 PM »
Abortion is nesscary. Whether you disagree what the limits of it should be, it simply is.

Thereís too many edge cases to say it shouldnít happen at all. The suggestion above that a woman should be forced to bring a baby stemming from rape to term is genuinely disgusting. Itís entirely a matter of personal choice - if the person wants to, there should be supports but no one should judge a woman who chooses a different path. Anecdotal cases as evidence is such a logical fallacy itís hard to see how it could be used to contribute to a wider legislation debate. That is position zero for discussion on abortion as far as Iím concerned.

I have huge respect for Michael Martin coming out and stating his personal position even if it is somewhat politically controversial.

After Repeal of the 8th, a woman presents at clinic saying she's pregnant and would like an abortion because she was raped.  Is that enough for an abortion to be carried out?


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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 19, 2018, 02:23:09 PM »
Most children diagnosed with these abnormalities live beyond birth. Some for months.  However short that life is they deserve it as much as me and you.
It's not up to us to decide who lives or dies. I challenge anyone who believes otherwise to watch a video of an abortion taking place and listen to testimonies from nurses and doctors who worked in abortion clinics and performed abortions themselves about what really happens....

Why should anyone give a flying f**k what the doctor or nurse thinks? It's not their body.

Would you intervene if you saw a woman self-harming or about to jump from a bridge?

If you have one, what's your point?

Tis a simple question.

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General discussion / Re: woman dies for want of a abortion
« on: January 19, 2018, 02:00:00 PM »
Most children diagnosed with these abnormalities live beyond birth. Some for months.  However short that life is they deserve it as much as me and you.
It's not up to us to decide who lives or dies. I challenge anyone who believes otherwise to watch a video of an abortion taking place and listen to testimonies from nurses and doctors who worked in abortion clinics and performed abortions themselves about what really happens....

Why should anyone give a flying f**k what the doctor or nurse thinks? It's not their body.

Would you intervene if you saw a woman self-harming or about to jump from a bridge?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 19, 2018, 10:15:38 AM »
"Irish"Independent all excited as they discover Dessie Ellis keeps all his TD salary in a "secret deal".

I thought the Shinners had done away with the industrial wage nonsense???

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General discussion / Re: Derry Girls - Channel 4
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:40:11 AM »
The missus and daughter watch this.  So I watched it again last night.  Still shite.  More of the only decent actor in the piece, Ian McElhinney, might help.  A reviewer in The Guardian has called this the funniest thing on TV.  I kid you not.  The Brits think it's hilarious.  This is what it comes to near the end of the world...Kevin McAleer re-hashes an old routine from 25 years ago, and people find it funny again. Nostradamus said this would happen...while he was spinning a few one liners that Derry Girls is reviving.

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General discussion / Re: Learning the guitar
« on: January 18, 2018, 03:09:20 PM »
Bought an acoustic last Saturday and am starting out on something which has been an ambition of mine for a long time. Have practiced 20-30 minutes every evening, just looking at chords from chord charts and/or videos on youtube. My soft fingertips are going through the ringer. I'm determined and I know it will take ages to get any level of competency so I'm willing to put the practice in. I still find it very hard to understand how I'll get there......it seems like a huge mountain to climb. Advice on here looks really good so I'm reviving the thread.

Seanie there's some really good free stuff on You Tube for beginners, an English guy called Andy (Cowley I think) and an American guy called Marty Schwartz.  Here's a tip, learn your scales early and you'll benefit once you move from beginner to intermediate.  I never bothered with scales, I wanted to get straight into blasting out rock n roll, but they are really useful for practice when you're a beginner and for bringing your playing on when you get past the beginner stage.  Otherwise practice on half a dozen chords or so, e.g. A, Am, C, G E, Em, D. You'll be able to play hundreds of songs with these.  As the fella said "Six chords is more than enough, sure U2 made millions with five!"

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: January 18, 2018, 01:32:16 PM »
Actor Peter Wyngarde, aged 90.  Posters of my vintage may remember "Department S" and "Jason King" in the late 60s and early 70s.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 18, 2018, 01:26:00 PM »
Arlene's being all fluffy and warm in Killarney at the weekend, then Sammy Wilson refers to the Leo as "that nutcase Varadkar".  The famous DUP bad cop-bad cop routine!

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 17, 2018, 09:31:15 AM »
Peter Canavan won't be standing for SF in the by-election.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 16, 2018, 09:21:02 PM »
Wasn't DeValera anti treaty?
He was from 1921 to 1926 when he started Fianna FŠil and decided to accept the Treaty's and Free State's existence and work within it.

As was Sean Lemass of the "slightly constitutional" Fianna Fail.  A man who didn't like to talk about what he's done during the War of Independence "because people were killed".  Ah well, sure that's OK there, Sean.



...runs for cover!

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 16, 2018, 09:53:02 AM »
If there's a joint "victim" candidate then SF should just run John Finucane in WT.  Sure isn't he a victim too??  Victim vs. Victim, sure that would be a dignified, sombre campaign?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 16, 2018, 09:11:40 AM »
I was just going to say that the Acute Hospital is situated in FST, a constituency represented by an SF MP. But I fear the point may be lost!

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