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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 20, 2019, 05:44:16 PM »
It's a really risky strategy for these MPs and most will probably pay with their jobs at the next election. It OK being a Tory candidate going up against Lab, Lib Dems etc but it's another being an Independent going up against them all. That's why we see a broad spectrum of people in all parties. How many times have we heard such and such party is a broad church. Mogg and his cohort of Brexiteers should really be in with someone like a UKIP. Corbyn and the leftists with the Workers Party or a Communist party.
Both parties should clearly split. But with the FPTP system, they can only do it if both agree at same time. Otherwise if one splits, the other is pretty much guaranteed a decent majority government, even if they lose some vote %

Of course, they could change the voting system, but I don’t think the Brits could handle that. Even though we’ve had it for donkeys, there’s still a huge amount of voters who stop at 1.

When is that old b**tard hag Hoey going to quit Labour?

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 11, 2019, 05:39:29 PM »
Eilis O’Hanlon writes for the Sunday Independent and Belfast Telegraph

How on earth do two separate papers pay her to write for them?

That is intellectually feeble stuff.


Unless the ROI leave the EU - or voluntarily to remove themselves from the single market, then in the even of the UK leaving without being synchronised to the regulations within the EU single market there must be checks at the only land border between EU and UK.

It is not a challenging concept to understand.

Everything else circulates around this fundamental. Why she is bothering to try and dress it up with emotive crap is beyond me.


How someone who has appointed themselves as an intellectual whose opinion is worth of print cannot understand this is quite frankly a reflection of the poor state of media today. No small wonder that paper circulation is continually dropping, why bother forking out for opinions every bit as uninformed as those you might find on facebook.
the Telegraph is atrocious
It's a thinktank for Brexit as far as I can see

Atrocious. Has turned into a DUP propaganda sheet under Gail Walker. But its circulation has collapsed, so very few people are actually reading this shite by O Hanlon, McCausland and that odious old crone Dudley Edwards

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 07, 2019, 04:28:43 PM »
UI means corporate tax alignment with the south and a lot of international investment. EU would definitely subsidise to the abundant waste of disproportionate civil service expenditure is restructured.
Can we afford not to have a UI

The Brits will have to pay something towards it too. Only fair there are reparations for 800 years of exploitation

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 06, 2019, 07:21:37 PM »
I know Tusk must be seething underneath but jeez does this not play into Brexiteers hands!

Wee Sammy Wilson has his speak.

https://twitter.com/eastantrimmp/status/1093126875524878336

The usual 'no surrender' crap that he comes out with.

At least now he's taking it international and the rest of the world can see what we've had to put up with I suppose.  ::)

Yes but whenever brexit is done with, Europe and Britain will forget all about the DUP and sammy and co will crawl back to the north and continue to spout their bigotry. And we’ll continue to have to put up with them. And nothing will ever change.
The demographics are only going one way

https://www.ft.com/content/7d5244a0-f22d-11e8-ae55-df4bf40f9d0d

There could even be an overall catholic majority by the time of the next census which is only 2 years away in 2021, certainly it will be nearing an equal split. That is no guarantee that a border poll could be won but I think it is a definite possibility within the next 10/15 years given the moving demographics. That last census poll is 8 years old which means that in each 10 year age category up to mid 40's there is now a catholic majority. That is no guarantee of winning a border poll but I feel that a no deal Brexit would be a game changer in that respect for those in the middle.

I don't think it is sensible to be calling for a poll until the outcome of Brexit is settled but pre Brexit it was only a distant pipe dream for most nationalists, at least certainly a generation away. The DUP backed the wrong horse from the outset.

 

While Brexit has certainly played a massive part in the change of attitude, it's not the only factor. The DUP under Foster has literally attempted to rub the noses of nationalists/republicans in the dirt. A friend who knows a leading light in the north's business fraternity told him they had been in conversation with several DUP members who were actually shocked by how bitter Foster really is. The Shinners only grew a set and brought Stormont down because their own voters let it be known in no uncertain terms that enough was enough. Yet still the Shinners were prepared to bend the knee with the wishy-washy agreement they made to re-establish Stormont, only for Foster to stab them in the back again and renege on it after both the UDA and Orange Order let her know it was unacceptable. Foster has done more to advance Irish unity than Ian Paisley ever did, and she's done more to ensure that Stormont will never sit again. Credit where it's due... well done Arlene

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly
« on: January 28, 2019, 02:44:39 PM »
Expressing an opinion on the game is one matter, but Brolly was spouting utter bull about the reason for the new mark, that the rule was introduced to favour the big target man. He was interrupted, taken to task and then he took offence as in 'how dare you interrupt ME'.

Rule nr 1   Only Joe is allowed to interrupt on the Sunday Game.

Narcissists don’t like being told it’s not about them.

The way Brolly puts his hands across other pundits to shut them up means only his opinion matters. And the constant interrupting is belittling the value of others analysis. Despicable behaviour.

This

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 16, 2019, 11:03:07 PM »
Close vote in the commons. Corbyn wants assurances that there won’t be a no deal brexit, I don’t know how she can do that when the eu says the current deal is the only deal and that was beaten easily.

Only deal with current red lines. If May shifts those on free movement customs union etc they could draw up another agreement no problem. Already talk in Europe about extending article 50 if request comes. Hilarious how eu is always a few steps down the road while the Brits are mired bickering about what they don't want

That would split those Tory b**tards even more, which would be great, but she has no wriggle room on that in London

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 16, 2019, 04:31:44 PM »
No Irish party (Nationalist or Unionist) makes one iota at Westminster.

Sure look at the number of SNP members that effectively don't matter.

My gripe with SF is they appear to be doing sweet FA here to get things back on track.

Stormont is dead, hopefully. There's a myth that things will improve if the Assembly and Executive returns. Balls. People have short memories, it was a farce, but it's always been a farce from 1921. Anything that shortens the life of this putrid statelet is fine by my, and the demise of Stormont is one of those things

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 15, 2019, 09:07:21 PM »
Sorry but I’m really struggling to understand how/why you think Varadker might be influenced or blackmailed to change his mind.

“I’m going to tell everyone it’s your fault, and they’ll all believe me, every last one of them”

It just needs an evil laugh at the end.

You’ve been reading too many childrens’ novels.

I hate the Blue Shirts, but I have very few complaints about the way Varadkar and Coveney have behaved over this.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 13, 2019, 08:23:02 PM »
Reparations from the Brits for 800 years of oppression will help pay for it  ;)

Seriously though,Westminster will have to help fund the transition, as will the EU. It'll not cost the people as much as the fifth columnists in the southern media would have you believe

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 13, 2019, 07:13:10 PM »
Sf's 7 mps would have zero influence in the commons. The SNP have 35 and did have over 50 and what exactly has that done for them?

With a few Tory abstentions 7 would be the clincher
None of the Shinner objections make sense. They don’t have to swear loyalty to the Queen. SD’P didn’t.
They could build political relationships with sympathetic Scottish, Welsh and Labour politicians.
They are stuck in a trap they built for themselves.

They do, Seafoid. And the SDLP MPs did. Northern nationalism has made it clear it is not the slightest bit interested in being represented in the British parliament, end of.

Here's the facts Seafoid or you can listen to red hander who spouts the SF line verbatim.

https://mobile.twitter.com/markdurkan/status/1067124640164864001?lang=en

 ;D Jog on, ye clown. I haven't voted Sinn Fein in over 20 years. What I spout is a republican line, not all republicans are Sinn Fein voters

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 13, 2019, 04:43:11 PM »
Sf's 7 mps would have zero influence in the commons. The SNP have 35 and did have over 50 and what exactly has that done for them?

With a few Tory abstentions 7 would be the clincher
None of the Shinner objections make sense. They don’t have to swear loyalty to the Queen. SD’P didn’t.
They could build political relationships with sympathetic Scottish, Welsh and Labour politicians.
They are stuck in a trap they built for themselves.

They do, Seafoid. And the SDLP MPs did. Northern nationalism has made it clear it is not the slightest bit interested in being represented in the British parliament, end of.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: January 13, 2019, 12:28:01 AM »
Lar, this has to be the most deluded post I have ever read on this board in the 16 years I have been on it (and that includes Derry clowns talking about winning a second All Ireland). Naive doesn't even begin to describe it. WTF are they putting in the water down there in Mayo? Anybody who thinks the seven SF MPs would have any influence over that clusterfuck going on in London at the moment is a candidate for a straitjacket. My advice? Stop reading the Sindo, it will utterly rot what's left of your brain.

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General discussion / Re: Big Lottery Winners in Armagh
« on: January 04, 2019, 04:24:52 PM »
Mental money and fair f**ks to them.. heard her speaking and she seems really nice and very deserving... hopefully they’ll be well advised on their money and have a happy life together!

I personally wouldn’t tell a soul if I could help it

+1

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General discussion / Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
« on: January 03, 2019, 05:23:47 PM »
RDE

THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century

And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.

30 years ago


unbelievable.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/margaret-thatcher-s-ag-woke-from-surgery-screaming-we-must-kill-ian-paisley-1.3737029

Gow told the diplomat that he had no “spark of hope” that he could get any of the unionist leaders to “show any courage or leadership”.
“They are all awful,” he said.

Now they are even worse

Which is great, for every time the mediocre provincial solicitor (and apparently only victim of the Troubles) opens her mouth, the Irish people move closer to getting their whole country back.

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