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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht Club Championships 2019
« on: November 05, 2019, 12:02:41 AM »
Such a tonic to hear that super p.... O Hara so upset after the club semi-final, ranted for 10 minutes on Ocean fm, trowing a wobbly after a 10 point defeat and after your forwards manage just one point of your 6 point total is fairly tipical O Hara.
He even referred to Roscommon as one of the big counties ;D.
Well I have news for you Eamon, Sligo has a bigger population than Ros but only half the guts.

Eamonn was naturally disappointed at losing a game he felt they could have won.  You are a total w**ker, love to rub it in.  Pathetic clown.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 31, 2019, 11:59:43 AM »
Just had a look at what the Tier 2 competition would have looked like if it was in operation this year.

There would have been 15 teams in it (all the Division 3 and Division 4 teams for next year bar Cork, who wouldn't have been eligible because they got to a provincial final)

The 15 teams who would have been in it played 22 games in the qualifiers this year winning 7.

              Played        Won
Offaly        3                 2
Derry        2                1
Leitrim      2                1
Antrim      2               1
Down        2                1
Longford    2                1
Waterford  1                0
Wexford    1                0
Wicklow    1                0
Limerick     1                0
London      1                0
Louth       1                0
Carlow      1                0
Sligo            1                0
Tipperary     1                0

If the Tier 2 competition had been in place this year, the same teams would have played 29 games winning 15.

                      29   15
         
1   Finalist           4   4
2   Finalist           4   3
3   Semi-Finalist   3   2
4   Semi-Finalist   3   2
5   Quarter-Finalist   2   1
6   Quarter-Finalist   2   1
7   Quarter-Finalist   2   1
8   Quarter-Finalist   2   1
9   First Round   1   0
10   First Round   1   0
11   First Round   1   0
12   First Round   1   0
13   First Round   1   0
14   First Round   1   0
15   First Round   1   0

Most people critising seem to pointing out how it isn't perfect and I think you'd have to travel a fair bit to find someone who thinks it is.
However I really can't see how it's not an improvement on what it's replacing.

Nice work two hands, only comment I would make is that the win to loss ratio is 1 to 1 for every winner there is a loser so there would be 14 winners to 14 losers (unless you consider a bye to the second round a win).  Your point however is very valid, the win percentage is 50% rather than ~20% in the current format.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 23, 2019, 03:28:57 AM »
Good effort Seanie, but your points are fairly easily challenged I feel. It gives Iíd say less than half the teams a chance of a national championship. Half of those affected voted against it.

Thinking that it will evolve into extra games is hardly relevant. It certainly wonít evolve in the next three years so half of those teams will still get only two games.

There were any amount of alternatives that had more merit than what weíve ended up with. And thatís before we get into the rush to get it through, the two player unions being against it and the fixture review committee being in the middle of their work.

You are correct that half the teams will only get two games but hopefully the loss margin in the second game will be much lower than if the team played a Div 1 or Div 2 team.  We all know Sligo had a few upsets in the backdoor over the years but it was always a question of time before we were knocked out. In this competition, we may have a chance to get to a final or semi-final or perhaps win and thats not happening under the current format.  It becomes a question of if we will lose not when we will lose and that can a very good thing for smaller counties.

As I said before, time will tell but I for one am hopeful that this gets legs and get the support it deserves from HQ and the media....

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: October 21, 2019, 11:04:45 PM »
Time will tell. I for one agree with it, it provides more incentive in the league for div 2 and 3 teams, it gives teams a realistic shot at silverware and it leads to more competitive games.  If you don't like it them get to a provincial final or get out of the lower divisions - hopefully it will get good promotion from tv Etc....

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2019 Football League
« on: October 04, 2019, 12:42:52 PM »
What's this about leaking schedules?  Does the gaa not officially publish this on a certain date? If so anyone know when that date is?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: September 30, 2019, 01:04:16 PM »
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0929/1078982-gpa-gpa-inferior-tier-2-format-being-rushed-through/

Interesting read, looks like this is definitely going to happen next year.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: September 18, 2019, 01:12:28 PM »
If there is two tiers what is to motivate the lesser counties in the top tier?

Take Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone and possibly Donegal out of it and the Dubs will hockey every other team by double figures who are also in the top tier (they will beat those 4 mentioned teams by 5-9 points usually on any given day)

Kildare, Cavan, Roscommon, Galway etc are around 7th-10th ranked last few years. Each have been stuffed by Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone etc last few years.

Whats to motivate those players to participate in the HIGHEST tier? Never mind the lower tiers. The tankings will still take place in Tier 1.

What it there to motivate them now? We have 1 tier and tankings occur regularly even in the so caller Super 8's.

Think about this,
 every county will still have at least one chance to win an all-ireland final (at the highest level).

Every county will still have a chance to win a provisional championship

The only difference is instead of being knocked out in one (or maybe two) rounds of the qualifiers the weaker counties now have a realistic shot at winning an All Ireland (tier 2).

It makes sense to me, as I've said before however I think the winners should be allowed back into the tier 1 competition but that might not be possible due to scheduling issues. 

Looking at the poll results it seems the majority are in favour of the proposal.  Change comes slow in the GAA but give Horan credit, he sees the big picture.



I think this is a good proposal, it's gives team more realistic chance of silverware

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 21, 2019, 01:22:52 AM »
This game is over.  Move on lads  accept defeat like we do every year  ??? ???

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There's fcuk all between the chasing pack.

Kerry and Donegal both comfortably beat Tyrone in knockout Championship games this year. Only for the draw and Super 8s group I donít think they would have reached the semifinal. I would have both Kerry and Donegal ahead of Tyrone in any ďchasing packĒ, hard to know what to make of Mayo.
Maybe if Tyrone tried to play football instead of robotic 15 men behind the ball stuff they might win.  I'm sure they don't enjoy playing it and 99% of people don't enjoy watching it.  Hopefully Mickey Harte will retire and this talented bunch of Tyrone players finds someone who allows Tyrone to express themselves and and show the class they have.  As a fan of football I'm glad they lost but I do genuinely feel bad for the Tyrone players who are forced to play like robots.  Mcshane  is some talent.

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GAA Discussion / Re: This weekends predictions
« on: August 08, 2019, 12:55:04 PM »
Draw
Kerry by 5

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I get your point but the pros far outweigh the cons in my opinion.  Having a ref in each half will cut down on off the ball stuff and will ensure a ref doesn't have to make a call from 80 yards away.  Think of all the bad calls that have been made over the years because the ref couldn't see what was going on because he was blocked or was too far away.  I think the consistency thing could be overcome easily by appointing refs with similar styles for games.  I think county players work way to hard to have a season taken away by bad or missed calls.  Look at the limerick sideline on Saturday, shocking that the ref, linesman and umpires all missed it yet every Limerick player did.  It's just not good enough.

The linesman and his umpires didnít see it! But another ref on the other side of the pitch would have? Ffs stupid point, one ref is plenty, heís wired up to the umpires and linesmen plus fourth official at at Croke the Hawkeye team, but hey one more will sort it! Give the linesmen more power, Iím all for that, in circumstances Iíve refd at Iíll blindly take the call of a linesman and blow straight away

Refs, like players wonít always have the best game, anyone looking to have game played at rugby pace and monitored accordingly can go f**k themselves. The game is fine as it is, two cracking semifinals should produce a brilliant final
An umpire is not a ref, and as an aside, wtf does there have to be two of them?  Two umpires each end,  4 in total but only one ref??

Two or more refs are used in many sports, even indoor court team handball where the game shifts end to end in a few seconds.  It's not about one ref's interpretation of the rules of the game, it's about the rules of the game being applied and two refs, one in each half, can work together to police the game.

I've highlighted what should be done, though you never seen that bit, the umpires are needed, if you've ever done umpire before at a club game on your own, its difficult enough to get the flight of the ball on your own side without having to go chasing over to the other side to catch sight of it, I'll agree that bog ball would be easier.

Counties struggle to get fixtures covered by referee's on a weekly bases, no shortage of keyboard ref's and kids tournament ref's or behind the fence ref's (who never knoow the rules) but now we are looking 2 referees at these games? Good one, good luck with that

Milltown, the title of the thread clearly states that this proposal is for county games only.  You are correct that it's hard to find refs now and in my opinion it's because of all the abuse they get.  My point is that having two refs will alleviate the pressure on one man AND cut out a lot of the nasty stuff that apparently linesmen and umps don't see or act on.
Unfortunately the default mode in most seasoned Gaa folk  is "change is bad" or "it's grand as it is".  I hope the GAA try the 2 refs out very soon, there too much effort being put in by players to have it all lost due bad calls made by refs who have an impossible task with the speed and tactics employed in today's game.

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I get your point but the pros far outweigh the cons in my opinion.  Having a ref in each half will cut down on off the ball stuff and will ensure a ref doesn't have to make a call from 80 yards away.  Think of all the bad calls that have been made over the years because the ref couldn't see what was going on because he was blocked or was too far away.  I think the consistency thing could be overcome easily by appointing refs with similar styles for games.  I think county players work way to hard to have a season taken away by bad or missed calls.  Look at the limerick sideline on Saturday, shocking that the ref, linesman and umpires all missed it yet every Limerick player did.  It's just not good enough.

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With all the bad press the hurling refs have gotten the last few days, I think this subject will be brought up soon for debate.  To me it's common sense to have 2 refs, how can one man handle all the on the ball stuff never mind the nasty stuff going on off the ball.  I don't understand how this hasn't been implemented years ago to be honest.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaa world games next week UCD and Croke park
« on: July 25, 2019, 02:32:30 PM »
I expect this will another great success.  It's great to see all these teams coming to our shores to play our native games.  Hopefully no sweepers included :D :D :D :D

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Another say day for those of us who used to love football.

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