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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: November 06, 2018, 10:21:21 AM »
Saw the Burren/Scotstown highlights on TG4 tonight; that was the most stonewall penalty I've ever seen
No doubt about it.  Clearly tripped by the Scotstown defender before another one came in and finished the job.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: November 06, 2018, 12:02:02 AM »
Best team won alright but an unbelievable decision by Hurson not to award a penalty in the 60th minute. Disappointed that all three of our football representatives have fallen at the first hurdle again. County Board timing for the awards questionable to say the least

Ehh... kilcoo have been in two finals in recent years. Rostrevor were in intermediate final last year and loughinisland and cpn have both won intermediate in recent years. Down clubs have done reasonably well in Ulster.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 29, 2018, 11:26:59 PM »
Pete McGrath the new Rostrevor manager. Announced tonight.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 24, 2018, 09:03:16 PM »
Slaughtneil game was a good comparison. Harps line up with 15 behind the ball for last 2 mins after equalising to try and secure a draw and their place in div 1.  Rostrevor having just conceded 7 in a row would have been happy enough with a draw at that stage and were putting the emphasis on harps to come out and take it off them.
13 seconds of video tells the whole story of a game though doesnít it 😳
Do kingdom have a good chance in playoff with hoops missing so many!!

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 08, 2018, 02:45:08 PM »
So technically it wasn't abandoned after a melee. It was abandoned due to poor light after it took quite a while to get an injured player up and the floodlights weren't working!!  The only suspension from it seems to be a for Downpatrick player who I gather was involved in the Ballyholland player getting hurt.
Also, the rematch wasn't abandoned, it had played through to full time.  Cant see it being declared null and void therefore.  Downpatrick will likely be given the points for this game bringing them to 18 and Ballyholland 19.
There will likely be significant suspensions which would obviously hit both teams going into the last games as well as fines, and there could also be a points deduction for each team which would still leave them within a point of each other going into last game but would avoid the the scenario of Ballyholland benefitting from a null and void.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 08, 2018, 12:12:47 PM »
The county board could confirm that the game is null and void which then leaves Downpatrick in the bottom 3 and a playoff with An Riocht. I think thatís probably the best outcome for all involved here. Castlewellan will probably be hoping for that
Castlwellan will be safe anyway. They will most likely beat Bryansford which will leave them on 20pts and if they get to that figure then they cant be sucked into bottom 3 due to other things like score difference etc.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 08, 2018, 11:38:24 AM »
Bad scenes in Kilcoo.  League positions could well be affected by the outcome of Co Board review I suspect.
At the top of the league, CPN have to beat Castlewellan and Clonduff.  They may well do that but cant see them beating the Town by more than a couple of points, so it will fall to CPN game v Clonduff compared to Burren v Saval.  Both opposition appear to have downed tools so anything could happen but would favour Burren at this stage.
At the bottom, a lot could depend on the outcome of co board review.
As it stands it is pretty much between Downpatrick and Ballyholland to join An Riocht in the play off.  It comes down to Ballyholland v Rostrevor. If harps win, they are safe, if they lose, they will almost certainly be in the play off.
There are other scenarios but it is almost 90% that it will come to Ballyhollands last game (and the co board outcome).

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: June 10, 2018, 10:49:00 PM »
That was shocking today, no question about it. I really felt for the lads, and for Eamon burns, a legend of this county. I have no doubt a lot of hard work was put in by both players and management but it simply isnít working. Eamon will obviously step away after this year unless miracles happen but looking at that pot one in the qualifiers it doesnít look good for us.
Most of our best players were playing today but there will likely be a few retirements after that.
Is there anyone to take it on? There always is and I reckon names such as James, Deegans, Mickey Walsh , Shane Mulholland and Poacher will be in the running.
It is a tough time to be a Down man but we have seen before, from our own and other counties how quickly things can be turned around with the right men in charge.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster JFC/IFC Club 2017
« on: November 28, 2017, 09:26:53 AM »
I actually thought the intermediate final was a proper game. Yes there were errors and skill set not quite as high as senior Ulster club but the intensity and effort from both sides could be felt never mind seen.  The atmosphere was unbelievable.  Fair play to both sides.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: November 15, 2017, 11:06:19 AM »
Ulster and All Ireland Intermediate is a funny one

In 2015 we won our first three match's at a canter and in the final we won on a scoreline of 4-01 to 0-10. We finished 2nd in Division 2 that year and most of the teams we played would have been Division 2 teams aswell. At that stage we had 16 team  divisions but some of the teams we played only had 8 in a division. In terms of league position we were the 18th best team in Down but in other counties, the team we were playing were 9/10th in their respective county

When we got through to the All Ireland Final, the team we played from Mayo had finished 2nd in Division 1 and from a physical point of view where a completely different animal to anything we faced in Ulster where apart from the Ulster final (which was played in horrible conditions in Owenbeg) we tore every team to shreds by at least 10 points.

We lost by 5 from what I recall and the Mayo team then got well beat by the Kerry team a couple of weeks later.

If the Mayo team that beat us was in Down, I would say they would have easily have been a top 4 side

Every county seems to have their own take on Senior v Intermediate.  This is shown by the Rostrevor v Milford game.  Rostrevor finished 2nd in Div 2, effectively ranked 14 in Down, but were intermediate by finishing 4th in Div 2 last year, while Milford finished 8th in Div 1 in Donegal this year after getting promoted last year.  They would have been in senior championship in Down this year.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 27, 2017, 04:28:10 PM »
There wasnt a whole lot wrong with this year was there?
The biggest problem comes at the end of the year when teams, with nothing to play for, go through the motions.  That is the result of not having any playoffs.  Only the bottom 2 or 3 teams in Div 2 have anything to play for.  All else is sown up from Div 1 to Div 4 and mostly has been for some time.
If there are not going to be league playoffs, then it is probably a better option to finish the leagues before championship is played.
Aside from that, most of the year saw competitive games throughout.  The bigger clubs with more county players are victims of their own success when they lose them to the county for that spring/summer period but I dont think anyone would want to go to a place where we dont play games because county players arent available. 

Most weeks there was a game on the Friday night, and the championship back door I think works alright.  You sense the anticipation of the quarter finals coming and whats wrong with having a few games to sort that out!

Reserve leagues finishing up earlier also well, although why some regional reserve games are still happening I have no idea.  I think U20/21 should run earlier in the year as well.

I have no problem with the co board looking at alternatives as we should always strive to get the optimal set up but as others have said, the premier teams competing in Div 4 will prove a logistical nightmare for most clubs involved.  If they can do it then more power to them and is bound to provide a stronger first team in years to come for those who can.  Down Fanatics proposal is not half bad but it introduces the play offs idea again which people wanted rid off just a few years ago. 

Ultimately, you want a game every week, you want as many players as possible to get a game, you want the 18-20 group looked after and kept involved while also not overbearing them, ideally you want each game to matter, and you want the cream coming to the top by the end of September/October.   Whichever system gets as close to that is the one I would choose.

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Down / Re: Down GAA Championship 2017 Prediction Competition.
« on: October 12, 2017, 02:06:51 PM »
Umpire, as always, an extremely well run competition.  Efficient to the last even with potential results out before the final games were even played!!

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« on: October 12, 2017, 02:05:46 PM »
I would love to know what his role will be.  Is his role different to Cathal Murray, is he an actual coach?  He obviously has experience of managing at both club and county but to what degree.  Say it had been Peter Donnelly brought in, well we know what he would have been doing.  What will Gearoid bring to the table?

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Down / Re: Down GAA Championship 2017 Prediction Competition.
« on: September 21, 2017, 11:07:54 AM »
Sunday 1st Oct
MFC
Burren
SFC 
Kilcoo

Sunday 8th Oct
JFC
Bright
IFC
Rostrevor

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Down / Re: Down GAA Championship 2017 Prediction Competition.
« on: September 13, 2017, 12:41:10 PM »
Thursday 14th Sept to Sat 16th Sept

Semi Finals
SFC
Castlewellan
Kilcoo

IFC
Annaclone
Rostrevor

JFC
Dundrum
Bright

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