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GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: August 29, 2017, 07:26:38 PM »
From today's Irish News



Cahair O'Kane

IF you get a chance, lock the kids outside (only if the weather’s half decent), find a recording of Saturday’s Bledisloe Cup game and take two hours to watch it.

The first test between New Zealand and Australia the previous weekend was a complete whitewash. Seven minutes into the second half, the All Blacks led 54-6 and were unleashing all the tricks and flicks against an insipid opponent.

But the real test of a great team is when the pressure comes on. On Saturday, Australia brought a real challenge, and were 17-0 up in no time.

With ten minutes left, New Zealand were back within a point. They went through 22 phases without a single handling error before touching down to go ahead.

Still it wasn’t done as the Aussies responded instantly with a Kurtley Beale try right under the posts.

With just over two minutes left, any mistake would have been critical. Just outside the Australian 22’, three replacements and a back-row forward combined to create a mesmerising match-winning try.

There was absolutely no margin for error, and they didn’t make one. When the quickest, most delicate of hands were needed, they were able to go that well and pull them out.

We’ve seen them do it so, so often. Who could ever forget the try they worked that afternoon in Dublin four years ago to snatch a comeback win in a game that they’d been 19-0 down in?

They do their gym work but New Zealand rugby’s development structures are based around skills first, bulk second.

That commitment to the basic skills is why they are so far ahead of everyone else. That is why they are able to pull games from the fire, from positions that nobody else would rescue victory from.

In 2015, two times Lions captain Sam Warburton highlighted the difference between the approach to coaching in the northern and southern hemispheres.

“They do the simple things really well, like running straight, carrying well, hitting rucks, placing the ball correctly at rucks and passing accurately.

“At 16 I was taught to jackal, make good tackles and do my lineout work. But New Zealanders are so good at making three on twos count – I was probably about 20 when I realised I had to draw somebody and time my pass.”

And it showed at the last World Cup, where the four semi-finalists were New Zealand, Australia, South Africa and Argentina, all of whom played a much more dashing, adventurous game than their northern counterparts.

The way Gaelic football has gone over the past 18 months is almost a replica. Ulster football is, whether we like it or not, still trying to bludgeon its way through like a Six Nations contender, while Dublin and Mayo will be playing in September because of the adventure and ability they’ve displayed over the last two months.

You can talk about funding and money and semi-professional lifestyles but all that does is take focus away from how brilliant they are at the basic skills of Gaelic football.

Two wides Dublin kicked in 75-odd minutes of an All-Ireland semi-final, one of them a goal chance that whistled past the top corner of Niall Morgan’s goal.

When Mick Bohan was their skills coach, he introduced the 36-shot challenge. Each player took 18 shots off their right foot and 18 shots off their left.

In an interview last year, he revealed that Eoghan O’Gara went from having “no left foot” in 2011 to scoring 33 shots from 36 in that drill two nights before the 2013 All-Ireland final.

Pure hard work and repetition brought him to that point. Nothing else.

Tyrone went out on Sunday searching for turnovers and created just seven of them in the whole game. That stat actually seems higher than the reality, for it seemed like Dublin never gave the ball away.

For all the athleticism and game-smarts they’ve built up, it’s their mastery of the ball itself that allows Dublin to really suck every ounce of your lifeblood out of you.

Midway through the first half with Tyrone desperately needing something, Tiernan McCann thought he was through a pocket into the Dublin 45.

Dips low to gather the solo but as his hands come up, he finds no ball to grab. Paul Mannion, of all people, has chopped it away in mid-air.

When you consider that workrate and that quality of a tackle from Dublin’s second top scorer this summer, then you see what it is to try and beat them.

Look at Jack McCaffrey every time he sets off. We’ve all seen fellas that can run the 100 metres in 12 seconds that when they take off on a football field, they’ll fall over themselves trying to solo a ball. Not him, though.

You can argue that the funding facilitates the lifestyle that facilitates the free time to hone those skills to that degree but that takes away from the hours upon hours spent perfecting that level of skill.

The GAA could give every county in Ireland €20m but it wouldn’t make any difference unless there is a change in emphasis back towards favouring the basic skills of the game.

There are definite signs that there is a changing trend. Derry minors were superb on Sunday. They played the same way as each of the previous two teams that Damian McErlain has sent out.

They pressed and harassed the Dublin kickout to the point of destruction. They work exceptionally hard on their kick-passing. It’s almost like a throwback to letting the ball do the work.

Gaelic football is opening out again. Look at how Mayo have been using the kick-pass this summer. Instead of fearing the impact of sweepers on such a style, the top counties have really honed in on finding a way to bypass them.

That, in turn, has negated their influence and almost forced the return of something resembling man-to-man combat.

All of which suits Dublin, because they work harder at the basics and attacking than anybody else.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: August 28, 2015, 11:59:45 AM »
Anyone know the reasoning behind all the Senior Championship games next week being reshuffled?

Hurling championship matches clash.

Come on the 'town tonight!!!!

But sure they knew when the Hurling was going to be when they fixed the football?


Good Luck to anyone who planned to go to the All Ireland Hurling Final and be back in Owenbeg for the football.

Idiots couldn’t run a bath. Still chopping and changing games a week before they’re supposed to be played.

Also what is the reasoning behind Bellaghy vs Coleraine being played this weekend? I know it’s not really a disadvantage to either team but I don’t see the reasoning behind it?

Only teams that don't have players playing in hurling championships.


What Hurlers playing in the championship do these games have?

Banagher vs Glen
Ballinderry vs Glenullin
Screen vs Foreglen

Michael Warnock for Glen plays for Swatragh I suppose but don’t see the point in playing 1 game a different weekend than the rest

I think two McCormack brothers from Foreglen play for Kevin Lynchs, and the Ballinderry fixture is delayed as their first round game was also delayed.

I don't know what rules are in place to accomodate one or two hurlers from one footballing club, to have a fixture changed / held back as they play for a different hurling club. 

I would say this CCCCCCCCCC outfit would struggle to have a knock-out championship run off in good time.

Have just heard the Vale junior championship game is also put back because Drum apparently have some players who play for Dungiven in the Hurling. Like you I don't understand how a football only club can have a championship game rearranged for an unconnected hurling club.

You have already stated the reason why the game is off in the first line of your post so its hard to comprehend how you don't understand.

Yes I understand what reason has been given for the game to be changed. However as I state in the second line, what i don't understand is why a football club can have a game rearranged for a hurling club with no connection. I understand duel clubs having to accomdate both codes, but Drum is not a duel club. Would you like me to explain it again or is twice enough for you???

Hillbilly, it's good to see you back again, been very quiet this year for some reason.

So dual players whose clubs don't have hurling should be punished and made to choose? I thought the point of the whole thing was to promote our games and encourage players to play them. Putting football and hurling championship games on the one day and making players choose would hardly do that.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: August 16, 2015, 12:37:58 AM »
Might as well finish my rant with a plea to officials for some protocol changes at these championship games:

1 Get the names of players, their numbers and their teams correct. Practise beforehand if needs be.
2 Seek help on local pronunciation if necessary
3 Ensure the scoreboard works throughout the game, regardless of weather conditions. If not, buy a new one.
4. Show anyone using a microphone where the off switch is and remind them that its job is to amplify the voice. Shouting into it does not work.
5. Buy a CD of the RTE Concert Orchestra playing the National Anthem and employ a DJ to cue it, ready for playing.

These people are volunteers. No-one is expecting them to be John Motson. If you know the names are wrong then you know the right ones, so you don't need the announcement, so you're just gurning for the sake of it. The PA man getting a name wrong is hardly a hanging offence.
The scoreboard is different though. It was all over the place in the last quarter and the players wouldn't know the score other than for that, it said Magherafelt were one down when they were two behind at a crucial stage. Think it also had Loup one behind when they were two down before the goal. It's a recurring problem at Owenbeg and definitely does need to be sorted.

If you are going to come on and act like an expert get it right.  Loup were only a point down when they scored the goal.  That was the problem with the scoreboard. it had them only a point up after it when it was two.   The great updates by twitter shows this.

Wasn't "acting the expert", I wasn't sure exactly what was happening with the scoreboard but I know it was wrong at critical times near the end. No need to be so aggressive  :o

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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: August 15, 2015, 12:08:13 PM »
Might as well finish my rant with a plea to officials for some protocol changes at these championship games:

1 Get the names of players, their numbers and their teams correct. Practise beforehand if needs be.
2 Seek help on local pronunciation if necessary
3 Ensure the scoreboard works throughout the game, regardless of weather conditions. If not, buy a new one.
4. Show anyone using a microphone where the off switch is and remind them that its job is to amplify the voice. Shouting into it does not work.
5. Buy a CD of the RTE Concert Orchestra playing the National Anthem and employ a DJ to cue it, ready for playing.

These people are volunteers. No-one is expecting them to be John Motson. If you know the names are wrong then you know the right ones, so you don't need the announcement, so you're just gurning for the sake of it. The PA man getting a name wrong is hardly a hanging offence.
The scoreboard is different though. It was all over the place in the last quarter and the players wouldn't know the score other than for that, it said Magherafelt were one down when they were two behind at a crucial stage. Think it also had Loup one behind when they were two down before the goal. It's a recurring problem at Owenbeg and definitely does need to be sorted.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The craziest substitutions ever made....
« on: May 13, 2015, 05:04:42 PM »
Paul Murphy had a stormer of a first half for Derry against Dublin in the 2007 AI quarter-final, kicked three points from play. Taken off at half-time.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: July 30, 2013, 12:09:39 PM »
Strong words from Gary Coleman about one of his own players, wonder what the Rossas think of that!

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Derry / Re: Derry Prediction League 2013 (week 7)
« on: May 24, 2013, 05:43:06 PM »
Friday 24th May 2013

Banagher    ---   ---   Ballinderry     BALLINDERRY
Faughanvale    ---   ---   Ballymaguigan   FAUGHANVALE

Saturday 25th May
Magherafelt    ---   ---   Lavey         LAVEY

Sunday 26th May
Kilrea    ---   ---   Ballinascreen       KILREA   
Bellaghy    ---   ---   Craigbane       BELLAGHY 
Swatragh    ---   ---   Steelstown   STEELSTOWN   
Dungiven    ---   ---   Coleraine      COLERAINE 
Loup    ---   ---   Glenullin               LOUP

Drumsurn    ---   ---   Desertmartin    DESERTMARTIN   
Glen    ---   ---   Limavady                  GLEN   
Claudy    ---   ---   Ballerin                 CLAUDY     
Lissan    ---   ---   Ogra Colmcille       LISSAN         
Slaughtmanus     ---   ---   Castledawson  SLAUGHTMANUS
Glack    ---   ---   Moneymore GAC      MONEYMORE 

Doire Trasna    ---   ---   Magilligan     MAGILLIGAN
Drum    ---   ---   Sean Dolans             DRUM     
Bellaghy Thirds    ---   ---   Doire Colmcille    BELLAGHY THIRDS
Magherafelt Thirds    ---   ---   Ardmore    ARDMORE

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Derry / Re: Derry prediction league 2013 (week 6)
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:03:02 PM »
That's what I get for predicting shocks. Back to basics this week.

Craigbane   ---   ---   Banagher   BANAGHER
Glenullin    ---   ---   Bellaghy       GLENULLIN
Swatragh   ---   ---   Dungiven    DUNGIVEN
Ballinascreen   ---   ---   Loup      BALLINASCREEN
Steelstown   ---   ---   Lavey.       LAVEY
Coleraine   ---   ---    Newbridge  COLERAINE
Ballinderry   ---   ---   Magherafelt BALLINDERRY
Slaughtneil    ---   ---   Kilrea        SLAUGHTNEIL

Greenlough   ---   ---   Claudy       CLAUDY
Ballymaguigan   ---   ---   Glack     BALLYMAGUIGAN
Moneymore    ---   ---    Slaughtmanus SLAUGHTMANUS
Limavady   ---   ---   Ballerin          BALLERIN
Castledawson   ---   ---   Drumsurn CASTLEDAWSON
Glen   ---   ---   faughanvale          GLEN
Desertmartin   ---   ---   Lissan      DESERTMARTIN
Ogra Colmcille   ---   ---   Foreglen FOREGLEN



Sunday 19th May
Magilligan   ---   ---   Sean Dolans   MAGILLIGAN
Doire Colmcille   ---   ---   Magherafelt Thirds   MAGHERAFELT THIRDS
Bellaghy Thirds   ---   ---   Drum    BELLAGHY THIRDS
Ardmore   ---   ---   Doire Trasna   DOIRE TRASNA

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Derry / Re: Derry Prediction League 2013 (week 5)
« on: May 09, 2013, 10:23:58 AM »
Gone for a few shocks this week...

Loup    ---   ---   Slaughtneil               SLAUGHTNEIL
Bellaghy    ---   ---   Ballinascreen      BALLINASCREEN
Magherafelt    ---   Craigbane            CRAIGBANE
Lavey    ---   ---   Ballinderry              BALLINDERRY
Dungiven    ---   ---   Steelstown       DUNGIVEN
Kilrea    ---   ---   Coleraine                KILREA
Banagher    ---   ---   Glenullin           GLENULLIN
Newbridge    ---   ---   Swatragh       NEWBRIDGE

Foreglen    ---   ---   Desertmartin      FOREGLEN   
Slaughtmanus    ---   Ballymaguigan  SLAUGHTMANUS   
Faughanvale    ---   Limavady            FAUGHANVALE
Ballerin    ---   ---   Greenlough          DRAW   
Claudy    ---   ---   Ogra Colmcille       CLAUDY   
Lissan    ---   ---   Castledawson        LISSAN   
Drumsurn    ---   ---   Moneymore       DRUMSURN
Glack    ---   ---   Glen                         GLEN


Doire Trasna    ---   ---   Doire Colmcille    DOIRE TRASNA
Drum            ---   ---   Magilligan               MAGILLIGAN
Sean Dolans    ---   ---   Ardmore              ARDMORE
Magherafelt Thirds    ---   ---   Bellaghy Thirds    MAGHERAFELT THIRDS

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Derry / Re: Derry Prediction League 2013 (week 4)
« on: April 30, 2013, 04:46:07 PM »
Ballinascreen    ---   Banagher       SCREEN   
Slaughtneil    ---   Bellaghy            SNEIL   
Coleraine    ---   ---   Loup             COLERAINE   
Craigbane    ---   ---   Lavey          LAVEY
Swatragh    ---   ---   Kilrea           KILREA
Dungiven    ---   ---    Newbridge   DUNGIVEN     
Steelstown    ---   Ballinderry         BALLINDERRY
Glenullin    ---   ---   Magherafelt    GLENULLIN     

Desertmartin    ---   ---   Claudy     CLAUDY
Faughanvale    ---   ---   Glack       FAUGHANVALE
Glen    ---   ---   Slaughtmanus      SLAUGHTMANUS
Ogra Colmcille    ---   ---   Ballerin  DRAW
Ballymaguigan    ---   ---   Drumsurn  BALLYMAGUIGAN 
Moneymore GAC    ---   ---   Lissan  LISSAN
Castledawson    ---   ---   Foreglen   CASTLEDAWSON   
Limavady    ---   ---   Greenlough     GREENLOUGH

Doire Colmcille    ---   ---   Sean Dolans    SEAN DOLAN'S
Bellaghy Thirds    ---   ---   Doire Trasna   DOIRE TRASNA   
Magherafelt Thirds    ---   ---   Drum         MAGHERAFELT THIRDS
Ardmore    ---   ---   Magilligan                 MAGILLIGAN

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Derry / Re: Derry Prediction League 2013 (week 3)
« on: April 25, 2013, 02:02:57 PM »
Friday 26th April

Glack    ---   ---   Limavady                   LIMAVADY
Claudy    ---   ---   Castledawson         DRAW

Saturday 27th April

Lissan    ---   ---   Ballymaguigan          BALLYMAGUIGAN   
Ballerin    ---   ---   Desertmartin           BALLERIN   
Foreglen    ---   ---   Moneymore GAC    FOREGLEN     
 Slaughtmanus    ---   Faughanvale      SLAUGHTMANUS

Magilligan    ---   ---   Doire Colmcille      MAGILLIGAN   
Doire Trasna    ---   Magherafelt Thirds  TRASNA     
Drum    ---   ---   Ardmore                       ARDMORE
Sean Dolans    ---   Bellaghy Thirds       SEAN DOLANS

Sunday 28th

Westmeath  --- ---  Derry                      DERRY

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Derry / Re: Derry Prediction League (Week 2)
« on: April 19, 2013, 10:24:52 PM »
Coleraine    ---   ---   Banagher         COLERAINE
Swatragh    ---   ---   Bellaghy          BELLAGHY
Steelstown    ---   ---   Craigbane     STEELSTOWN
Dungiven     ---   ---   Loup              LOUP
Ballinascreen    ---   ---   Lavey        SCREEN
Newbridge    ---   ---   Kilrea            KILREA
Slaughtneil    ---   ---   Magherafelt  SLAUGHTNEIL


Moneymore GAC ---   ---   Claudy          CLAUDY   
Desertmartin    ---   ---   Greenlough     GREENLOUGH   
Glack           ---   ---   Slaughtmanus     SLAUGHTMANUS
Castledawson    ---   ---   Ballerin          C'DAWSON   
Faughanvale    ---   ---   Drumsurn        FVALE   
Limavady     ---   ---   Ogra Colmcille     LIMAVADY
Glen            ---   ---   Lissan                 GLEN   
Ballymaguigan    ---   ---   Foreglen       BALLYMAGUIGAN

Doire Trasna    ---   ---   Drum              TRASNA     
Doire Colmcille    ---   ---   Ardmore      ARDMORE   
Bellaghy Thirds ---   ---   Magilligan      MAGILLIGAN     
Magherafelt Thirds ------   Sean Dolans MFELT THIRDS

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Derry / Re: Derry Prediction League 2013 (week 1)
« on: April 12, 2013, 12:33:48 AM »
banagher --   ---   Swatragh       DRAW
Bellaghy    ---   ---   Dungiven            DUNGIVEN
Lavey    ---   ---   Slaughtneil    S'NEIL
Ballinderry    ---   ---   Ballinascreen    BALLINDERRY
Loup    ---   ---   Newbridge       LOUP
Kilrea    ---   ---   Steelstown    KILREA   
Magherafelt ---   ---   Coleraine       MAGHERAFELT
Craigbane    ---   ---   Glenullin            CRAIGBANE

Ogra Colmcille    ---   Desertmartin    OGRA COLMCILLE 
Claudy    ---   ---   Ballymaguigan    CLAUDY   
Slaughtmanus     ---   Limavady       SLAUGHTMANUS
Drumsurn    ---   ---   Glack       DRUMSURN
Greenlough    ---   Castledawson    CASTLEDAWSON
Ballerin    ---   ---   Moneymore GAC  BALLERIN   
Lissan    ---   ---   Faughanvale    FAUGHANVALE
Foreglen    ---   ---   Glen              GLEN

Magilligan    ---   ---   Magherafelt Thirds    MAGILLIGAN   ---   ---                                              DRUM     Doire Colmcille            DRUM
Sean Dolans    ---   Doire Trasna       TRASNA
Ardmore    ---   ---   Bellaghy Thirds            BELLAGHY

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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: December 18, 2012, 03:54:48 PM »
I'm guessing the fact that the CDP had an interview with Moran about the job that it is him in charge. Think everyone had heard it was the Baker's job.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
« on: October 10, 2012, 10:52:14 AM »
Celtic Park and Ballinascreen are two terrific surfaces.  A lot of players seemed to slip on the surface in 'Screen on Sunday at that double header, and I haven't played on it so I can't comment, but it looks immaculate, it's like a snooker table when you walk across it.  Celtic Park can withstand the elements but sometimes they cut the grass in a wee bit too tight.  I'm thinking particularly of free-takers, that's why you seldom see the ball on the ground in CP, if it had just a bit more length it'd be perfect.

Celtic Park's changing rooms are not big.  Plus you wouldn't need to have two boys dying for a shite at the one time.  For the county ground, the facilities for players are poor.  Talk about car parking, Ballinderry played a game there last year (possibly the final) and I was chatting to some of the players coming out the gate after who had to walk half a mile to their cars after the game.  That is a joke.  But Ballinascreen is a bottle neck for traffic and Glen is very dangerous.  Well stewarded but an accident waiting to happen in my view.

The reason club games shouldn't be played in Celtic Park unless absolutely necessary is because of the lack of people going to the game.  You can argue all you like.  I'm from North Derry and I know a hell of a lot of south Derry neutrals who'd go and watch Kilrea v Slaughtneil tonight if it wasn't so far away.  When are the county board going to stand back and look at it?  The two biggest attendances I've seen in the last five or six years have been in Greenlough (Ballinderry v Lavey, 2010) and a few weeks ago in Bellaghy for the Kilrea v Loup game.  That proves its own point, because it was midweek under lights too, and the steps, you couldn't have got moving on them.  That's because boys from Antrim and Tyrone, football men, will come and watch it.  When the game's in Celtic Park, the amount of neutrals who travel is minimal.

I don't mind the final being played in Celtic Park because it will attract a certain number of neutrals, but just look at the attendances at finals in the past few years.  There were 7,000 there when Glenullin played Bellaghy on an absolute pish of a day in 2007.  Two years later, 4,000 at Dungiven v Loup. Last year, about 3,500.  People cannot be arsed with the run, and the people should be pandered too, because spectators are badly needed.  The county board are so hell bent on sticking by Celtic Park that they ignore the benefits of taking games away from it.  Quarter-finals and semi-finals should not be played there.

Celtic Park was an awful mistake.  It's a terrific venue, one of the best supporter stadia around, but Derry's home should never have been located in there.  Nothing against the city, but how many city men go as neutrals and watch club games?  The only ones I see are the stewards.  1,200 at the Ballinderry v Banagher game was an awful poor crowd for a semi-final, but we all know why it was.

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