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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2019
« on: November 20, 2019, 12:07:17 AM »
The final has been fixed for Healy Park in Omagh on Sunday, December 1. What sort of shape is the pitch going to be in there ?

Well it was immaculate when taking two games on it on Saturday night, so barring a fortnight of rain fairly good....

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club JFC/IFC 2019
« on: October 21, 2019, 07:44:13 PM »
It's not that odd at all.  And they would get relegated to Junior by being Relegated from Intermediate Championship.
Killenkere reached Intermediate final in 2016 but struggled in 2017 Championship and relegated to Junior

Look at the Inter County scene. There is 4 divisions In league, and  in championip a Division 4 team could play a Division 1 team in a Provincial championship game

Yet people cry about disregarding the weaker counties

But that's why now Rodney, there's a clamour for a tiered system...or at least 2 tiers.

Of course... They complain that a tierd system is disregarding counties.  A hammering in a Provincial and qualifier game isn't any benefit.
Leitrim and Wicklow proposed the idea. Some of the others objected. Thery could have a chance of playing the final at Croke Park. That wasn't going to happen through the qualifiers

As regards the club scene. Trillick in Tyrone I read were beaten in a Intermeduate final a few years ago but wee promoted in Division 2 and played Senior football the following year. That's just devaluing the Intermediate Championship

Trillick won the Senior Championship the next year. They only went up through the league play-offs too having come second in the league. So it definitely didn't devalue the Intermediate Championship. If anything it proves the point that teams in the top division should be playing in the Senior Championship.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 21, 2019, 03:04:49 PM »
Must've been some amount of brown envelopes this week. Derrylaughan do anything for $$ and the Moy up to the old tricks again. Local stationary shops in the Moy must be buzzing at this time of year

$$??? Few derrylaughlan men going to the states next summer need it?
You seem very sour about the weekends results fella, your club must have been hard done by??

The bottom of Division 1 was decided a fortnight ago. Edendork couldn't pass Moy on head to head. The only thing down for decision is where the play-off between Eglish and Edendork is. There's nothing about the results at the weekend that would have been unexpected given that very few of the teams left had anything to play for

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: October 18, 2019, 09:19:56 AM »
There is only short term security in professional sports in terms of managers and coaches. At some stage , the management team is sacked and new people take over.Thats why they get paid so well.
GAA is going the same way. New manager leads to new backroom members. You have to make your mark and charge accordingly. Even in club football the gravy train keeps moving on.
What would the career span be for coaches /s &c coaches ? 10 - 15 years ?

Donnelly's role was secure enough, he was a full time registered employee of Tyrone GAA with a remit covering all the S&C needs of Tyrone underage squads up to senior. He's very highly rated which probably explains why a professional setup came and headhunted him for their gig. I don't know how many other counties employ somebody like Donnelly, Dublin probably do and a few others but I think Tyrone were ahead of the curve. In terms of fitness, conditioning and our injury record record then I think the results speak extremely positively for Donnelly but the package on offer from a professional outlet is likely one we can't come close to offering.
Personally i would want noting to do with the shower that is Ulster rugby but i understand why he did, professional set up blah blah.. My issue is that it seems he was just let go. If Leinster rugby come looking a Dublin S&C coach I don't think they would get him at all and if they did they would not get him as easy.

Donnelly on full time contract with Tyrone. Not huge salary but probably decent in GAA circles. Ulster Rugby come calling, offer him a few grand more to do similar job, 9-5, working with academy set up, larger more professional organisation, more room for career progression. Donnelly suggests to Tyrone he could stay on and do S&C for senior team only on a part time evening basis (like vast majority of other counties outside the top tier), Tyrone say no, we want someone full time. All fair enough.
Donnelly then gets the opportunity to do the part time evening set up with Monaghan and make a few extra quid. All seems completely fair on both sides. Nothing to see here, move along.

If anything it shows Tyrone are up there with Dublin and Kerry in having the full time S&C coach and aren't content with a part timer they way Monaghan still are.

Am I missing something here? Davis is only coming in on a part time basis to work with the senior team. We're going to need to go and get someone to work with the U20 and Minor teams to do the work Peter Donnelly did with them...

The reality is Tyrone have a serious problem holding on to any expertise they've got in the way of full time staff. The staff turnover in the last 12-18 months is unreal. Meanwhile we're in the process of building another white elephant at Garvaghey instead of investing in coaching for all our teams not just the elite players

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: September 27, 2019, 01:16:19 PM »
I'm fairly sure Central Council decided at the beginning of the year to switch to penalty kicks in the 'winner of the day' scenario but free kicks were in the competition regulations hence the free kicks last night.

To be honest it's probably a good job it went to a replay because had PG1 lost and had to play without a player wrongly sent off (even if he returned when the error was realised) because a yellow card was wrongly carried into extra time then we'd probably be looking at an appeal and rightly so.

Thought PG1 were the better team in the first half and LD probably the better side over the rest of the game on balance. PG1 were much more economical in front of the posts. Looking forward to game 3! Fitzsimmons will be a loss for LD had been having a great championship.

Thought the Dub was a great venue, it's just a pity no one looked into some sort of PA in advance. There were a lot of people wondering what was happening.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: July 20, 2019, 12:25:31 PM »
How many full time coaching staff members is that Tyrone have lost in the last eight or nine months? By my count 5. Wouldn't exactly be a ringing endorsement for the working environment to have a staff turn over that high.

Add to that the number of Tyrone Academy coaches who stepped away or weren't asked back, Canavan is right- questions need asked.

Under the rules as they stand the most he could get for the finger in the mouth was one game. Two games for a stamp. Done for both. Concurrent punishments. There was never any chance of him getting any more.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Championship 2019
« on: May 23, 2019, 09:52:24 PM »
Why the general move away from the minor games being on before the senior games?

Counties wanted a backdoor championship and they wanted an exam break. Minor and senior championship  no longer tied

Any word on why Kennedy was taken off and Colm was put on? Is it a coincidence that that's when Derry started getting back into the game? Colm off after we concede the goal and we win the remainder of the game 1-5 to 0-01.

Good to get the win, was not expecting to blow them away but good sign that we put down the pedal for the last 10 minutes. Derry will cause a lot of problems for all teams outside of the top 3 or 4 I believe. Could get a decent run if the draw is kind to them in qualifiers.

Kennedy had been carrying a hamstring injury into the game. Made a couple of runs into the Derry defence when he was on! Hopefully we can shake that off over the next week or two. Has serious potential for a lad just turned 21

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: April 25, 2019, 04:17:12 PM »
Coming up to a 3rd of the season in after Fridays games.

Just looking at the table the Derrylaughan/Donaghmore game looks to be a big one already for D'More. They are struggling. Eglish and Tattyreagh will need to get something, somewhere soon. Will the Tatts smell blood at home to Omagh? Could be interesting.

No surprises at the top, pretty much as you expected - the demise of Clonoe has been predicted for a few years now....they are still there, one last hurrah for some? Moy look to have the house in order after a bit of a scare last year.

How do you work that out? Derrylaughan have taken 3 points from Dromore, Coalisland and Trillick. They've Errigal this week. That could be the top 4 played already.

Donaghmore lost to Omagh and Dromore and drew with Trillick. I don't think either team will be too panicked at this stage.

Similarly Eglish have played some of the top teams already. They'll want to get points soon so they don't get cut adrift

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: March 10, 2019, 11:27:29 AM »
The job wasn't advertised from what I understand, hence the issues at the county executive and more than a few members feeling fairly miffed with the process or lack of a process. The county's handling of HR issues in the past year has left a lot to be desired.

GAA Discussion / Re: John McEntee Under 20 article
« on: February 22, 2019, 09:55:40 AM »
Couldn't agree more.....this issue needs to be taken firmly in hand by HQ.

It has been taken in hand... they've introduced an U20 regional league that means these players will be playing more inter county football in May and June and less with their clubs...

GAA Discussion / Re: Sigerson 2019
« on: January 21, 2019, 07:30:11 PM »
Filling out what we now know...

Sigerson Cup draw

Round 1 January 16/20

A. DCU v IT Carlow

B. QUB v Maynooth University

C. IT Tralee v Ulster University

D. UCC v Athlone IT

E. UCD v Cork IT

F. NUIG v St Mary's

G. Garda v IT Sligo


Round 2 January 23/24

I. IT Carlow v Cork IT

J. QUB v NUI Galway

K. IT Tralee v IT Sligo

L. Athlone IT v DIT

Round 3 January 30

M. UL v IT Carlow/ Cork IT

N. Garda College v QUB/ NUIG

O. St Mary's v Tralee IT/ IT Sligo

P. UCD v Athlone IT/ DIT

Quarter-Finals February 6

Q. UL/ IT Carlow/ Cork IT v UCC

R. Garda College/ QUB/ NUIG v Ulster University

S. St Mary's/ Tralee IT/ IT Sligo v Maynooth

T. UCD/ Athlone IT/ DIT v DCU

Semi-Finals February 16

Q v R

S v T

Final February 20

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2018
« on: November 17, 2018, 10:17:46 PM »
Awful way to go out! I them games should go to replays
Awful way to win or lose a championship game. I'd blame those in congress for voting in such nonsense to decide games.

Can't have it every way, complain about fixture congestion and then complain about games being finished on the day.
Final is not scheduled until December so was no need to rush and finish the game on the day.

It's a Congress decision not an Ulster GAA decision. Same applies to Provincial county championship and the qualifiers

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 30, 2018, 07:19:56 PM »
Murnaghan was on the Tyrone Under 20 team this year and certainly didn't stand out by any stretch. I'd like to see another few performances like that before you could consider him.

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