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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 23, 2020, 11:55:34 AM »
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

Don't get this at all myself. Clonduff are clearly a strong team but entering the same championship each year offers nothing to them. They should be senior and to be fair Down senior camogs are very good as well. they are better than Antrim and Derry as well and would be good enough to compete in the ulster senior club championship.

The Ulster intermediate final is just Down v Tyrone so again it seems a bit pointless the same two sides playing in it each year (usually Clonduff v Eglish). there's not much in terms of counties pushing up grades.

there's an Ulster Junior championship and the Junior B and then the shield. Too many sub competitions and too many teams at that level where they should be moved up

How camogie is organised really is a head scratcher at times both in Down and in Ulster.

As for Clonduff, I'd have thought they'd have been wanting to push up to senior but maybe the thought of running into SN and Loughgeil puts them off, I don't know. Maybe picking up lower level baubles is their thing...

Shouldn't be a choice. You win the intermediate you automatically have to go up a level, should apply across the board for all the competitions.




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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: September 23, 2020, 10:33:55 AM »
Last night kind of exposed even more the gap between the starting 11 and the squad players.

Without the penalty they did not look like scoring at all. Not much threat coming down the flanks, AWB doesnt offer enough going forward and asking a young player like BW to play left back when he is right footed totally negates any threat coming down that side.

Jessie looked a bit more like his old self, taking into account the opposition etc but he looked interested. Whether he is playing for a move or a contract we don't know at this point.

VDB looks good on the ball and hopefully as he gains match fitness with the rest he will fit in nicely. Squad still way short in terms of quality not numbers.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 23, 2020, 09:05:21 AM »
yeah and ulster final in Jan between the Antrim and Derry champions. No more counties enter it at senior level though to be honest the Down champions should be in it now as Clonduff have shown they would be good enough.

Derry final is this saturday.

Don't know how Clonduff get away with this, they're by far the best team in Down yet win the Ulster intermediate and even an AI intermediate and then somehow are allowed to enter ulster intermediate the following year.

This one has baffled me for a while, how does this keep happening? Surely having won it there should be the stipulation that you are senior grade the following year. Also slightly irksome on the socials when you keep hearing about the great achievement year after year, romping the Down championship and then entering a championship in Ulster that they are over qualified for.

I would have thought that there would be some ambition to at least test themselves and see where they are at one year JC no?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: September 23, 2020, 09:01:15 AM »
What you see in PG1 at the minute is phase one development. Whenever the club members get their second wind a sustained affort will be made to roll out phase two. The plans for that are adventurous, including a third pitch (or maybe a 4g training pitch) a fully covered stand, and more car parking.

BS what is the story with the road running between the two pitches, granted it is a country lane type road but does it get closed on match days? Just thinking if there was ambition to host big games, this would be a consideration from a H&S point of view and not sure it would go down too well.


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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: September 22, 2020, 08:10:06 AM »
Talking of stands I was in Corrigan tonight looking after our Southy team, the stand is looking great and when it gets completely finished with terracing on the other side will it hold 5 thousand?

Is this the prep for us for when we are told that we can't get access too the new Casement?

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: September 21, 2020, 04:11:28 PM »
Only two teams conceded less goals than Utd in the league last season - City (1 less) and Liverpool (3 less). So despite the defence looking very shaky, itís probably not THE top priority. A complete lack of quality depth for the front 4 is - VdB allows for Bruno and Pogba to be rested and rotated, while Sancho at least means that Utd will have one sub who can come in to the attack without necessitating a change in style of play or a massive drop in quality.

Shaw canít stay fit for long enough so LB needs to be sorted, allowing Williams to play RB (as heís right footed) when AWB needs a rest. Hopefully AWB will develop a bit more in an attacking sense this year too.

Yeah that makes sense and probably explains OGS strategy in the market.

I am concerned and was most of last season about AWB, offers very little going forward and switches off too often for my liking now blocking crosses etc. Hopefully restarts in better form.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: September 21, 2020, 11:35:58 AM »
A good final to watch and again covered well by JQ a great service to the county.

The game itself, really poor standard of refereeing again. Didn't make the big calls at the end of the game when the game could have gone either way.

Creggan are getting a bit like PG1 at this stage, lots of decent nice footballers plenty of talent, but when heat comes on they are lacking that killer instinct that wins big games.




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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: September 21, 2020, 11:28:13 AM »
Disappointing start to the season.

The team look under cooked completely, fitness was way off and match sharpness not there at all. It is what we were all concerned about with the extended season and seems to have come to fruition.

If it doesn't show the need for a couple of additions to the squad before the window closes then nothing will.


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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 18, 2020, 01:56:10 PM »
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ainít gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Slaughtneil are one of the highest profile clubs in Ireland atm but there manager wouldnít have the same influence as Henry shefflin ( ballyhale ). Anyway this Covid BS has gathered momentum again so itís feasibility ( club provincials ) is a moving target.

The issues are completely related. The fact you want to look the other way on external managers is your issue.
For me I would respect it a lot more if he and his 'coaches' had stayed around and worked through a tough period for their own club.

If he had done so and made BC competitive then I would be more inclined to listen to his opinion. Hard to decipher the motivation of wanting the season extended when there are different outcomes for those involved.


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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 18, 2020, 01:18:06 PM »
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ainít gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

Enlighen me, what exactly what are you getting at?

Not hard to understand.

If he was in Ballycastle coaching his own club, he would have more weight behind any argument he is putting forward.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 18, 2020, 11:55:21 AM »
I don't see much wrong with Michael McShanes suggestion of completing the provincial and All Ireland series in January and February as normally would be the case. What are others thoughts?

They ainít gonna listen to him alone, when all the club finals are completed in Leinster and Munster and the respective club title managers ( probably more high profile names) Start calling for it it could be looked at.

Maybe would listen to him if it was him with Ballycastle and they were Antrim champions, fact he is where he is weakens any point to be made.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: September 18, 2020, 09:05:35 AM »
Itís really going over ground isnít it, sometimes clubs just canít get someone from inside to do the job, or equally someone from inside who is up to the job and willing. In that case they have to go outside and unfortunately itís gonna cost money sometimes. Though in fairness I do k ow a few fellas taking teams and are doing it for genuine expenses although I accept they are few and far between

Problem being that it then becomes a vicious cycle, once you go for the 'perceived' better outsider it will then make the job of finding an internal suitable club member that bit more difficult. Think of the amount of these guys across Ulster, making serious serious money in some cases and for what?
You telling me that Cargin couldnt get someone from within their own club to run a team, probably most talented team in the county past 5 odd years and yet they need two mercenaries to get them over the line? Pure madness

You will soon end up in the position that Bellaghy found themselves in with DC and he was one of their own.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 16, 2020, 08:20:58 AM »
DR, I agree with you about Neilly McGarry. He was the shamrocks stand out defender. Pivotal moment for me was Dan McCloskey going through and not laying ball off, when it was cleared I knew the game was Dunloys.  Some of Loughgiels match ups in 1st half were suspect as well imo, Tony marking Seann was always gonna be tough on him.

On another note, does anyone know if leagues are gonna continue on 27 September? I can see pluses and negatives for it but in my opinion I think it would be good for clubs to give squad players game time as most teams always need to find 1 or 2 more players each year. Losing 3 months of season due to lockdown and most teams out of championship by end of August means 11 months with no hurling which I think is too much.

Problem is for the match ups for LG where do they go? Pace is their real issue in the back line and no matter what the match ups were they were going to struggle.

Second issue for them is their top performers on the day most likely won't be there next year. Dunloy arent going away with that young team, so even with two 'good' minor teams I am not sure it is going to be enough to bridge that gap. Realistically they could be looking at needing 3, 4 or 5 of those minors straight into a senior team. I'm not sure that will work.

Think the toss was interesting, If LG would have won it they would have played into it as well I am pretty sure. They would would have been prepped to slow the game down, puck outs free etc keep themselves in the game. So I would say it was a surprise to them when Dunloy did the opposite to what was expected.

All in all a great championship with problem 5/6 top class games, let's hope we can keep 5 or maybe even 6 teams competing at that level next year.

Ps Scrap the leagues whats the point at this stage.

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Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« on: September 13, 2020, 09:37:12 AM »
Come off it.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Brilliant win for our minors today. Nice to see them defend their title.

Ballycastle have some nice hurlers too but their mentors / supporters behaviour towards the end was a disgrace.

Seems to be one common thread in any trouble that there has been in the county over past ten (or maybe more) years.....answers on a post card

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: September 08, 2020, 02:54:15 PM »

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