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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: Today at 08:13:37 AM »
Ian Burke's 2019 form in a Galway jersey was terrible, if he plays at a 2018 level then he'll be a massive addition but he has it all to do to get back to that standard.
Farragher has done absolutely nothing yet at inter county and was piss poor against Mayo last July but in fairness he hasn't got too many opportunities outside of that either.

John Daly must be injured, big loss for Sunday as he's been outstanding so far this year.
Iím not too sure Ian Burke is even on the panel tbh.
We shall see.
On his 2019 form he would not get on the team - 2018 form he walks onto it.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 11, 2020, 06:13:15 PM »
Have to agree with AFA re John Concannon on the sideline - if ever there was a lad to have nowhere near the pitch...
He has a history of that kind of bullshit and Pj needs to sort him out imo.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 09, 2020, 11:02:44 AM »
Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.
Going ahead according to Meath Gaa twitter page anyway

GAA Discussion / Re: U20 All Ireland football championship 2020
« on: February 07, 2020, 05:07:38 PM »
Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Is Cian Monaghan not overage next year also?
Youíre right though itís a very young team. I read somewhere Tierney is the only survivor from last years starting team

Yes you're right, got him and Ryan mixed up.
Weather conditions will probably make a balls of this game

GAA Discussion / Re: U20 All Ireland football championship 2020
« on: February 07, 2020, 04:57:16 PM »
Thats a very young Galway team, don't know what age Alan Greene is but off the rest of the outfield players only Tierney, Fitzgerald & Glynn are overage next year. 4 of last years U17's team are starting.
Is Cian Monaghan not overage next year also?
Youíre right though itís a very young team. I read somewhere Tierney is the only survivor from last years starting team

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 10:41:13 PM »
I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
Iím glad Steede is getting another start

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 04, 2020, 10:21:07 PM »
The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and ” Laoi.
Thatís Michael Boyle rather than Liam I think?
Iím surprised heís back in tbh.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 03, 2020, 11:58:30 AM »
Very good post as usual AFA. Totally agree re PJ's attitude to the defeat and his bullishness in general.
The chance conversion rate has unfortunately carried on from the KW era as this killed us in so many games during his tenure.
What you say re Brannigans inconsistency in terms of shooting (he'll get 2-3 points one day and kick 5 wides the next) could equally apply to Michael Daly imo. He just kicks far too many wides from good scoring positions.
Hopefully Comer will get better as the league progresses as I know that the ankle is still troubling him somewhat currently.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 02, 2020, 01:08:00 PM »
If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.
How did you think Mulkerrin and Heaney did in the fb line?

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 01, 2020, 08:49:17 PM »
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.
Yeah McDaid wasnít let on after his ten minutes were up as Gleeson was preparing to take a kick out.
Kerry kicked the winner from the next play.
Sounds like we were caught out trying to play keep ball at the back for the Kerry goal.
It seems we got a good performance though and this will be a good learning experience for that team.
On another note - that is Cillians third black card in 4 games this year - he really needs to sort that indiscipline out.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 01, 2020, 08:27:34 PM »
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? Iím the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM »
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: February 01, 2020, 04:05:40 PM »
Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small
Eoin O Donoghue is a quality defender.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
« on: January 31, 2020, 10:33:33 PM »
Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.
Whatís the story with Cormac Costello this year - is he involved in the squad currently?

There's a bit of discussion in the Tyrone club thread presently concerning the state of "reserve" football in the county, and I thought it might be useful to hear about similar experiences from other counties about similar competitions.

Since it was introduced nearly 45 years ago, reserve football in Tyrone has followed a system that has fundamentally changed little since it was first organised - reserve teams are a club's second string side, which in some other counties might be called a B team, Junior B or C etc. However reserve teams in Tyrone do not play in the same league & championship system that first teams do - instead they are played in a parallel league. There is no direct promotion or relegation in the reserve league, your division depends on what your corresponding first team plays in. Fixtures for first and reserve teams are normally fixed as a "double header" with the reserve game first then the "senior" or first teams game afterwards - on a Sunday fixture the throw in for the reserve game is usually 2.15pm while the senior game is at 3.45pm. To help prevent clubs flooding their reserve teams with strong senior players, a list of players must be submitted before the league commences. This used to be 12 players but in recent years this has been reduced to 10 for Division 2 teams, and 9 for Division 3 teams while at the same time reserve league games in Divisions 2 & 3 are played 13-a-side, though 15-a-side is allowed if both teams agree. The championship is a straight knockout in each division where the first round opponents are the same as the corresponding draw in the senior, intermediate or junior championship. In theory it is perfectly possible to have a strong reserve side but a weak senior side and vice versa, so for example a club might have their senior team relegated from Division 2 to 3, but their reserve team win the corresponding Division 2 reserve league that same season - nevertheless that reserve team must compete in Division 3 the following year and likely hockey most teams out of sight. Or a senior team gets promoted to Division 1, but the corresponding reserve team is already struggling in games in Division 2, and so is likely on a hiding to nothing the following season in Division 1.

Particularly over the last few seasons, but especially in 2019, there has been an increase in clubs conceding the corresponding reserve league game as they don't have enough players to field. Part of this is down to potential mismatches due to the parallel system (a club that was heavily defeated in their first two or three games may struggle to keep player's interest going for the remainder of the league as it is a straight league, whoever finishes top of the table wins - no play-offs unless there is a tie on points) but a lot of it is down to the unpredictability of when games are fixed. Most certainly, Tyrone is not the only county with issues of arranging competitive club games in the midst of the provincial & All-Ireland championships, but the tying of reserve fixtures to the corresponding senior game present a big problem - for the mainstay senior panelists they might be willing to keep training in between the 4 to 6 weeks between a league game in the height of summer, but those on its fringes or just looking to play reserve football are less likely to - especially if they have families or other commitments and even more so if there is nothing to play for in those reserve games other than pride & a run out.

So to help try and stem the tide of a growing list of reserve fixtures not being played, a proposal was drawn up (headed by every Louth person's favourite Tyrone man, Martin Sludden) for the reserve football leagues and championships to be played independently from the corresponding senior leagues in 2020, consisting of 14 league rounds played on consecutive weeks with each division split into two sections based on geography, with promotion & relegation in this league occurring independently of the club's senior team status. The general feedback on the T'hrone club thread to the suggestion was mainly positive though some concern was given about the proposed Monday night fixtures for reserve league games, with another day like Friday or Saturday being better favoured. But as it were, the proposal was met with some poor feedback at the last County Board meeting and so for 2020 at least the reserve football structure will remain the same in Tyrone with a proviso of attempting to schedule standalone reserve fixtures during the summer months should the senior leagues be held up for county team reasons - how that might work in practice remains to be seen.

So after that "TL:DR" spiel, I was just wanting to pick up what happens elsewhere regarding second or even third string adult club teams in football & hurling in different counties. I know that in Ulster they either run it like its done in Tyrone (Antrim, Donegal, Derry) or run it as a separate league (Monaghan, Fermanagh, Down), while in some cases some stronger second teams are fielded in the same senior league structure (Armagh) whilst in Tyrone, Errigal Ciaran have an additional team in Division 3 of the senior league that is referred to as their "Thirds" as their seconds/reserve team plays in the Division 1 reserve league.

* Do many clubs in your county field more than one adult team (excluding U20 or U21 sides)?

* Do all teams play within one league structure, or do second and third club teams play within their own league & championship competitions?

* How successful is this format in helping bring and retain active players in the clubs that field these teams? Is there some way that you think it could be detrimental?

* Is there anything you can think of that would improve the format for second & third teams in your county?

* And any other suggestions!

Thanks in advance. Oh, and if reading all of the above has helped you fall asleep, don't mention it! ;)
In Galway football I would say that most clubs field 2 adult teams anyway. Then clubs with a bigger membership might have a 3rd team (I think Corofin enter 4 if not 5 adult teams).
There isn't the same concept as separate "reserve" leagues or championships.
Every team in the county including clubs A,B,C or whatever teams all fit within the same structure of division 1,2,3,4 etc.
Divisions 1-4 are all county leagues. The divisions below that are regional (i.e. there would be a division 5 North and also a separate division 5 West and the same would be the case for division 6, 7 etc.).
Our clubs second team for example would play in a league against mostly other second teams but there was at least one clubs first team in the division also (along with one clubs third team).
Championships are set up similarly.
We have senior and intermediate championships that are all county.
The levels below that of junior, junior B, junior C etc are divisional initially with the winners of the 2 divisions (North and West) playing against each other in the county final.
The only restriction that I'm aware of is that you can't have two teams from the same club playing at the same level.
For example, Corofin's second team currently play intermediate championship having won the junior in 2018 (they are the only club in Galway whose B team is above junior level). If they were to win intermediate they couldn't go senior as there is obviously already a senior team in the club.
In the past (maybe up to 7-8 years ago) - there were separate "senior", "intermediate", "junior" leagues that consisted of exactly the same teams that played at that level for the championship.
It was 2 up 2 down between senior and intermediate. The winner of the championship and winner of the league both went up. Relegation was done via the league.
They changed that 7-8 years ago into the current division 1,2,3 etc structure with championship relegation and promotion completely separate to the league. So in theory you could play division 1 league but still have to play junior championship (extremely unlikely in Galway as junior is weak).

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