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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 17, 2019, 10:25:02 AM »
Is Mickey harte still living in ballygawley?
Heard he may be moving?
No Glencull but yes.

Naah, you are not obsessed!

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 17, 2019, 10:23:28 AM »
Ach isn't it great to see all the new accounts on making allegations about named individuals.


HINT: To stay anon you probably should not leave your email visible

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 14, 2019, 10:08:36 AM »
The scores were all over the shop
Aye it is a bit of a b0111x fi you have their feed and the TeamTalk feed (or indeed any other feed) coming in as they are usually 1-2 scores behind or out.

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General discussion / Re: Jay Donnelly
« on: January 11, 2019, 01:24:45 PM »
Not a great situation for the lad. Hard to defend it, but whoever in his group of mates then sent it to the wider public via facebook also deserves 4 months for me. The name is widely suspected but nothing will come of that I assume.
I would have thought that anyone who re-shared the photo could have been done for distribution. However it would be easier for them to claim not to know she was under 18. Donnelly did not have that excuse.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 10, 2019, 07:33:57 AM »
I see in the latest Sinn Fein/DUP carve up the Belfast City councillors voted down channelling the £500k to an anti-poverty initiative so it could be given to Feile, so we can safely assume Jackie McDonald and his cohort of “community workers” will be getting a similar rate payer funded windfall soon, with Sinn Féin’s full backing.

They don't even try to hide it any more.

Maybe with global warming we can grow bananas.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: January 08, 2019, 08:57:45 AM »
Just enquiring if anyone heard any interesting tit-bits from the holiday? Specifically the absence of the backroom team and a possible player in a spot of bother? I heard a bit of info at work today but wouldn't read much into it unless someone else had heard the same.
FFS. What goes on tour stays on tour. Leave the lads some space to unwind.

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Okay, one step at a time I guess... explain how the handpass rule discourages Donegal from "sitting deep"?

It does not discourage teams from sitting back but it should encourage teams to push up on the opposition which i suppose is the same thing. This is only my opinion and coincidentally, in the Cavan McKenna cup game yesterday it came to pass. Cavan decided to aggressively push up on Queens when they came out, when you throw a kick into the mix it forced queens to kick the ball under pressure and with a kick over say 20 meters being inherently less accurate than a 2 yard handpass, Cavan were able to turn over possession higher up he field and get a number of easier scores. Cavan did try the same against Down but had less success but I put that down to the team developing this style of play and not being particularly efficient in it. In short Cavans new manager is innovating while Down manager in particular is stuck in a rut trying to mimic Jim McGuinness's winning formula from a decade ago.

Now I have stated that I have seen a lot of teams foul the ball when in an attacking position which i think is wrong, so I would tweak the rule to say once you enter the opposition half or 45 (whichever makes more sense) there is no counting of handpasses.

2nd example. If a player gets a mark for catching the ball clean in the oppositions 45, surely it makes sense to push up and put pressure on the kicker as well as to mark tight and put pressure on the receiver?

I'd really love to see that tweak to the hand pass rule implemented before the league, especially to stop eejits showing videos of "great" goals that would be disallowed in todays game.

What is it about the experimental rules that you think make it advantageous to "push up" (Pep style)? If your answer is that a 4th handpass in a row being a foul will put players under pressure* you are even further discredited in this discussion (if that's possible).
If teams press up into their forward line to win the ball back (which is not a new concept) they are leaving man on man scenarios in their own half of the field and crowding their own attacking space.
* If you think teams will be under pressure because of the handpass restriction you obviously haven't been to any games yet - they just turn and kick it back to the keeper then start again.

1st bold - I've already answered this question
2nd bold - Exactly.

Glad to have helped you understand.

So you think teams will push up to leave their own defence vulnerable?

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OK I have updated my opinion, 1 of 4 of Brollys suggestions would have no negative impact on the game.

I have to say I like Brolly's ideas

- no pass back into your own half
- Goalkeeper cannot be used in open play
- the idea of an exclusion zone ( very difficult to implement at club level)
- kickouts past the 45metre  line

Worth a trial in my view
No 1 could work, it would be worth a trial.
No 2 similar but it would eliminate the Rory Beggans of the world going forward to support the attack as they could not receive a return pass.
No 3 could not work at club level and I am not sure it would work at any level. If a defender slips or pulls a hamstring does his man get a free run at goal?
No 4 Joe proposed before and after a bit of fanfare and a challenge game in Monaghan quietly dropped it. Allowing only 4 men between the 45s will not lead to 1960s style high fielding contests. It will lead to keepers chipping the ball out into the chest of running mid-fielders. No 50:50 contests just guaranteed possession for the kicking team.

The kicking past the 45 what's not in place now or a different variation?  Brolly wanted everyone outside the 45's except the 4 mid-fielders.

I honestly don't see any problem with the keeper getting a ball in open play...look at the laois keeper last year and how many touches in open play do keepers actually have, I never saw it as a negative tactic, just a safe one. It is a negative step in terms of the development of the keepers role but it could potentially reduce the extra man teams would have to hold possession.

The no backwards passing in your own half, please no....too Many marginal call on sideways passes to be made and i don't see possession in your own half as a problem, teams don't mess around with the ball in their own half, they try work space and try create an opportunity to get up the pitch... it's when you cross the halfway line and meet the blanket defence it gets bad to watch. I have thought some more about this. IT would actually be worse than what we have (should have known with Joe's in depth analysis). The defensive team would know that any players sitting back were out of the game and it would make it easier to saturate their own defensicve area. There would be no incentive to keep players forward to put pressure on the free man or keeper at the back.

Exclusion zone, not sure what this entails but I don't like restrictions being put on players. Again more Joe bollixology.

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I have to say I like Brolly's ideas

- no pass back into your own half
- Goalkeeper cannot be used in open play
- the idea of an exclusion zone ( very difficult to implement at club level)
- kickouts past the 45metre  line

Worth a trial in my view
No 1 could work, it would be worth a trial.
No 2 similar but it would eliminate the Rory Beggans of the world going forward to support the attack as they could not receive a return pass.
No 3 could not work at club level and I am not sure it would work at any level. If a defender slips or pulls a hamstring does his man get a free run at goal?
No 4 Joe proposed before and after a bit of fanfare and a challenge game in Monaghan quietly dropped it. Allowing only 4 men between the 45s will not lead to 1960s style high fielding contests. It will lead to keepers chipping the ball out into the chest of running mid-fielders. No 50:50 contests just guaranteed possession for the kicking team.

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General discussion / Re: Big Lottery Winners in Armagh
« on: January 04, 2019, 01:12:46 PM »
Uk will still be in Euromillions post-Brexit.
They should have waited until after MArch 29th to cash in. The €30M would be worth £150m by then.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: December 20, 2018, 08:15:32 PM »
Why don't you have a go at a select from your area? Be a welcome discussion in comparison to somethings put up here.
What are the boundaries?
Ardboe parish
Clonoe parish
Coalisland parish
Cookstown/Rock/Kildress
Dungannon/Edendork/Killyman/Donaghmore/Moy
Eglish/kileeshil/Aghaloo/Galbally
Augher/Clogher/Eskra/Errigal
Dromore/Trillick/Fintona/Drumquin/Dregish/Derg
Omagh/Tatts/Drumragh/Killyclogher
Beragh/Carrickmore/Loughmcrory/Greencastle
How do you stop them fighting in the changing rooms?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: December 18, 2018, 08:36:07 AM »
Jesus lads its Christmas give it a rest until January!

Nobody should be yapping about the inclusion of the couple of young lads. Let them at it they are under enough pressure. I don't see a pile of other forwards standing out in the county
As well as Murnaghan at CHB 4 of the 6 Colleges All-star forwards were Tyrone men so maybe we will see a few more come through in the next couple of years.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 17, 2018, 09:50:25 AM »
I've given ye the broad plan for an All Ireland political entity on this board many times over the years.
An Irish  Confederation with 2 semi autonomous Regions -the present 6 and 26 Co areas.
The IC would have a new flagship and anthem while the 26 Co region could keep the Tricolour answer AnabhF.
A slimmed down Dáil and Northern Assembly would run internal affairs in their areas.
6 Cos Residents would be entitled to dual citizenship as now - if Britain still exists by then of course.

A lot of that sounds fairly reasonable as a starting point Rossfan.
I actually think people in the south would find it more difficult to leave behind symbols than northern nationalists, and maybe Rossfans point above demonstrates that. Most nationalists I have spoken to would be in favour of a new anthem and new flag. I wouldn't be in favour of the 26 holding on to the Tricolour and Amhrán na bhFiann  and Ireland as a whole having a new anthem. That just seems partitionist to me.

Purely to play devils advocate....

If, after a 50%+1 vote for Irish unity in Northern Ireland (as per GFA) talks on the form of this New Ireland stalled and no agreement could be reached on subventions from Westminister or Brussels resulting in a backlash against the plan due to the costs, etc, would you entertain the notion of a second referendum?

I would hope that the nuances around reunification are discussed before the vote, so that we wouldn't be going into it completely in the dark.
To draw further parallels, the Brexit voste would have to have to either given multiple choice options (Remain, Remain in EEA, Remain in SM, Have a Customs union, crash out, etc) leading to no one option getting an overall majority or the UK government would have unilaterally picked one of those options and agreed it with EU prior to the referendum.

Could we trust them to get it right this time and to then pick their preferred option prior to calling a poll?

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: December 17, 2018, 08:06:22 AM »
I've given ye the broad plan for an All Ireland political entity on this board many times over the years.
An Irish  Confederation with 2 semi autonomous Regions -the present 6 and 26 Co areas.
The IC would have a new flagship and anthem while the 26 Co region could keep the Tricolour answer AnabhF.
A slimmed down Dáil and Northern Assembly would run internal affairs in their areas.
6 Cos Residents would be entitled to dual citizenship as now - if Britain still exists by then of course.

A lot of that sounds fairly reasonable as a starting point Rossfan.
I actually think people in the south would find it more difficult to leave behind symbols than northern nationalists, and maybe Rossfans point above demonstrates that. Most nationalists I have spoken to would be in favour of a new anthem and new flag. I wouldn't be in favour of the 26 holding on to the Tricolour and Amhrán na bhFiann  and Ireland as a whole having a new anthem. That just seems partitionist to me.

Purely to play devils advocate....

If, after a 50%+1 vote for Irish unity in Northern Ireland (as per GFA) talks on the form of this New Ireland stalled and no agreement could be reached on subventions from Westminister or Brussels resulting in a backlash against the plan due to the costs, etc, would you entertain the notion of a second referendum?

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General discussion / Re: No more evictions!
« on: December 17, 2018, 07:58:22 AM »
Should there be no consequences for not paying your debt?

Everyone who has a mortgage knows that if you stop paying, the house is at risk.

I have no idea what the facts are in this case, but banks don't go in after a couple of missed repayments, and they generally try all they can to come up with revised payment plans where circumstances of the borrower changes. Repossession is last resort.
I think it was more a case of how the Ballymoney based enforcers evicted the elderly property owners which drew the ire so some early rising locals.

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