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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 15, 2017, 03:18:52 PM »
Isn't redistribution of wealth the essence of being in the corner of the underdog. And literally every tax is redistribution of wealth. But carry on

General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: May 14, 2017, 03:17:33 PM »
Summary of season so far, text from a fellow sufferer:

It was bad enough when they were level, but I'm really nervous now they scored

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:28:35 AM »
I suspect you must have been equally upset when Obama so successfully endorsed Clinton?

General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: May 11, 2017, 10:25:27 AM »
Taylor made announce Rory signing and get sold to a PE firm in same week. Somebody was busy...

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 09, 2017, 11:00:08 PM »
On sessions recommendation.

Too funny

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 07, 2017, 10:36:25 PM »
Hey Foxy-

 just to be clear-are you saying you can't tell the difference between:

1) a former politician in one country making a video urging people in a different country publicly to vote one way

2) a report from the US's Office of the Director of National Intelligence which said and I quote
Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections
ICA 2017-01D 6 January 2017
Key Judgments
Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.
We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.
 We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.
 Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.
 Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.
Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
 Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
 We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and to release US victim data
     This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment; its conclusions are identical to those in the highly classified assessment but this version does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign.
     obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks.
 Russian intelligence obtained and maintained access to elements of multiple US state or local electoral boards. DHS assesses that the types of systems Russian actors targeted or compromised were not involved in vote tallying.
 Russia’s state-run propaganda machine contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.
We assess Moscow will apply lessons learned from its Putin-ordered campaign aimed at the US presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.

General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: May 07, 2017, 05:36:45 AM »
Just announced next up GGG vs Canelo. Sort of makes it almost worth watching that exhibition.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 06, 2017, 12:51:51 AM »

Terrible would describe the experience of my self employed clients and friends whose premiums have skyrocketed from $17k per year to $28k per year with a $6k deductible tacked on for good the people who Bill Clinton described as "humping it 60 hours a week whose premiums have doubled and their coverage cut in half...its the craziest thing in the world"

What you and all the progressives seem to be missing or ignoring is that Obamacare was collapsing in on top of itself

I have a lot of experience with this, my own family healthcare premiums doubled from 18k to 36k annually, and add in a a 10k deductible "for good measure" when i was self employed. That includes coverage of a highly medical dependent child with a "pre-existing condition".

A significantly higher coverage for my family is now provided by my employer for less than 8k per annum.

You can call it terrible, (or in my words a f**king disgrace) but my view of terrible is a possibility of significant amount of people in the US completely losing their coverage, and those that do pay for coverage having it denied on the whim of an insurance policy that it is very unlikely that they fully understand when they buy it. The ACA brought significantly improved economics to the entire United States, but the lobbyists will not tolerate the changes that are required to improve the heath care system in the US.

Do you think the problem is the bill that supports healthcare for all, or the structure that allows that differential to occur?

The new bill that has passed the house has a fair chance of being a huge tax credit for the richest americans at the expense of the poorest. Now both sides will spin the shite out of this, but I think that the Republicans will pay a huge price for this in the next elections.

It is the myth perpetuated by the self employed that the ACA screws them, the fact is no-one is lobbying for the self employed and as a result they bear the brunt of the tax law. When they get successful, they contribute to politicians and get looked after but by that point they are a corporate entity and they don't look back...

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 05, 2017, 07:16:20 PM »
it's not like that hey are replacing a great bill with a terrible's more like they're replacing a terrible bill with a less terrible bill

"Likely" I'm not sure that word means what you think it does.

The terrible bill that gave people Heath are is being replaced by one that removes it.

I'm not sure you understand the word terrible either. Or do you mean from your own perspective rather than for the benefit of the entire country.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: May 05, 2017, 06:51:34 PM »
Let's go ahead and call bull shit right now

No one has read the bill and had time to do an assessment of the impact of the bill. This is an absolute disgrace that a bill so meaningful to the poor of the US has been passed sight unseen on order for Republicans to fulfil the repeal obamacare election promises.

The language in there about preexisting conditions and states rights are abysmal. The "religious freedom" aspect is a disgrace to human rights standards​ anywhere and the parcelled tax rebates for the 0.01% are shameful.

Seth Myers rip on Paul Ryan vs Paul Ryan is a humorous take on the hypocrisy of the whole thing, but let's be clear, no vote on that bill should ever have happened.

Careful what you wish for...

Who materially benefits from Northern Ireland being part of the UK?

General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
« on: April 24, 2017, 03:30:44 PM »

There is a rumor going around that there is an exposé about Hernandez due to be released in the next few weeks.

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: April 20, 2017, 04:27:22 AM »
The above post is not wrong

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: April 20, 2017, 01:45:38 AM »
Not sure if serious?

General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: April 17, 2017, 07:20:08 AM »
"always" is a bit of a stretch for a country founded July 2nd 1776.
Yes it's July 2nd on purpose...

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