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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 02, 2016, 04:16:32 PM »
Yup, i would say they are quite similar. Sanchez has support from a significantly better team. Both have potential to be superstars and are just about on the cusp of that now. Sanchez has more under his belt at this point though and that would be reflected in transfer value.  Ozil had a rough start to his Arsenal days but has gone from strength to strength since then. Di Maria had an awful start at Man U, but his displays in France are fantastic. Coutinho could be playing in sky blue come August.

And when you get old at the moment becomes a lengthier period of time...

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 02, 2016, 01:35:20 PM »

So you don't consider Sanchez a success?? He's just back from 10 games out injured yet still has double-figures in terms of goals for the season. Himself & Ozil hopefully now leading Arsenal on a title-push, something that's a pipe-dream for Liverpool
Sanchez has been great, like Coutinho. However i used the term unqualified success. Ozil is another class for Arsenal  (at the moment) maybe coutinho and sanchez can make that last step up, heres hoping, 2 great players.
 Di Maria was the other example i gave and he is now flying at PSG.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 01, 2016, 10:20:25 PM »
Problem is Heganboy, you aren't looking at it objectively.

I wholeheartedly agree!

while a few of the names you mention are close to the level I was (blindly) hoping for, not all, for me, would count. Ozil, Di Maria and Sanchez are definitely recognizable names and are of the global names level that Liverpool would do well to recruit, though Ozil maybe the only unqualified success. Liverpool's recent transfers have been at best tier 2, though more tier 3 if we are removing the blinkers. Klopp clearly has the name to attract players that Brendan did not, but those key players will be hard come by. The summer will see what we have in store for the next few years...

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: February 01, 2016, 07:31:44 PM »
current next united manager odds (from Paddy Power)


J Mourinho 1.80      R Koeman 41.00           E Howe 101.00
R Giggs 4.00           D Deschamps 41.00      F Rijkaard 151.00
M Pellegrini 11.00    B Rodgers 51.00           S McClaren 151.00
F Capello 17.00       L Enrique 67.00            OG Solskjaer 151.00
L Blanc 17.00          R Martinez 67.00          T Pulis 151.00
D Simeone 17.00     C Ranieri 67.00            R Ferdinand 151.00
M Pochettino 17.00  M Bielsa 101.00            D Beckham 201.00
A Conte 21.00         P Guardiola 101.00       A Wenger 251.00
A Ferguson 21.00    F De Boer 101.00          G Poyet 501.00
M Allegri 21.00       J Klopp 101.00              T Sherwood 501.00
M Hughes 21.00     Roy Keane 101.00          C Hughton 501.00
G Neville 26.00      H Redknapp 101.00        N Lennon 501.00
A Sabella 34.00      C Ancelotti 101.00

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 01, 2016, 05:58:44 PM »

But if anything approaching a world class "brand" player is willing to come to the EPL, then his agent is going to knock on Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal first.

Agreed on that- however if LFC make the right bid there for that calibre of player- for those 2/3 then the game changes with Klopp.

Not sure that Arsenal or United currently have that wow factor any more than marginally ahead of Liverpool, and Chelsea is a wait and see model too. MCFC have just made a massive move...

edit- and MCFC just announced 150M quid available to Pep.

also see Cheryshev went to Valencia- great move by Neville- he would have been a great acquisition for most PL teams- not Liverpool though

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 01, 2016, 05:55:08 PM »
But if anything approaching a world class "brand" player is willing to come to the EPL, then his agent is going to knock on Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal first.

Agreed on that- however if LFC make the right bid there for that calibre of player- for those 2/3 then the game changes with Klopp.

Not sure that Arsenal or United currently have that wow factor any more than marginally ahead of Liverpool, and Chelsea is a wait and see model too. MCFC have just made a massive move...

edit- and the just announced 150M quid available.
also see Cheryshev went to Valencia- great move by Neville- he would have been a great acquisition for most PL teams- not Liverpool though

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 01, 2016, 04:59:39 PM »
ter Stegen would have been nice, I'm not a fan of our current goalie options. I don't like the idea of any of the ex MUFC guys. Don't see any of the other names as likely, though Cahill would have been a decent fit. I get the feeling that it's going to be a blank window and then a big push in the summer. Matip has signed new terms- so he's going to be expensive. Teixiera seems to be silly money at this point.
 
I think by not going crazy in this window, Klopp has actually positioned himself as a players manager, someone who will work with and develop players.

Man CIty's stroke of genius announcing today has precluded top names from taking a last minute bid to the PL or even any of the other global clubs. I imagine that has had an impact on MU and Chelsea targets in the PL and other big Italian, German and Spanish (and Catalan and Basque) clubs.

I think the progression of the so called mid table teams this year will ensure the biggest summer transfer window ever. The big clubs will have to bring in brand name players to make the impact that they need in the global marketing arena.  Liverpool in particular, Gerrard was a global name in the sport, and realistically Coutinho who didn't make the last Brazil squad in the next best thing. Klopp is the brand name, and is recognized as one of the top 4 managers in the world, he will draw the players.

However Pep will draw players, and has virtually an unlimited budget so have Barca and Real. This takes MCFC with those two to the pinnacle of global clubs, and really puts them as the most attractive club in the PL.  That means that Liverpool need to break the bank for 2/3 key players to build a platform that will allow Klopp to make an impact next year (CL qualification), but more realistically challenge for the league 2017/18.

In order to do that, those 2/3 key players and Klopp need to be as attractive as possible for the global audience for funding the club, and for key players brand and personal image rights to attract them to a world recognized team (not just a club). No easy task...


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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 29, 2016, 04:56:58 PM »
felony charges for fake id I've heard it all now
Well, that and attempting to buy human tissue.

That's like charging an underage drnker on a sting operation for trying to buy a six pak

Whitey, im just going to go ahead and take this rare opportunity to completely agree with you.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 29, 2016, 05:32:20 AM »
felony charges for fake id I've heard it all now
Well, that and attempting to buy human tissue.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: January 27, 2016, 09:49:48 PM »
This might be a tad harsh, but it looked to me like De Bruyne was flopping for the foul, but mid flop his foot got caught on the Everton guy's boot and it got stuck underneath him and his own weight flopping twisted it. That could be a high sprain (not too bad) or ligament damage (couple months)

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:50:26 PM »
Klopp fairly red out Moreno.

Pretty much what we were all thinking. Klopp has all the ammunition he needs to clean house in the summer, and probably a fair bit of damage in the coming week if FSG care about what happens the rest of the season.

Liverpool through was about the most positive thing that could be said about that.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: January 26, 2016, 10:31:47 PM »
Liverpool through.


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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: January 26, 2016, 09:57:20 PM »
How much was benteke?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: January 26, 2016, 09:49:38 PM »
Mignolets penalty record 6 saved out of 35 career.

Who do you fancy?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: January 26, 2016, 09:42:43 PM »
Liverpool have conceded 8 goals from the last 9 shots on their goal

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