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A good slap in the mouth will do McFadden Ferry no harm. He was due it. His Letterkenny antics in 2022 started off a sizable melee. I totally understand his emotions are high at the end of tight wins against a big rival, but humility in victory is a virtue that he lacks. Plenty of others lack it too, but just like many want to say Armagh are a common denominator in these skirmishes, he is personally and directly responsible for two of them against Armagh.

Was said player not involved in an incident in an Ulster Club against Crossmaglen a number of years ago too ?

While those that threw the digs will get a ban he deserves as big a one. I hate this mouthing crap. Needs stopped - full stop. I help with an underage team and if we catch any player mouthing he is dragged off.

What is it about Armagh and close games?

Even when playing against sides inferior to them (Tyrone in the semis and Antrim for a while in the quarters), they have this trait of having to win it down the home stretch.

Are the supporters immune to this now, as in expecting it?

I have supported Armagh 50 years but the last 10 or so have been the most entertaining. No use winning easy. It gets boring.

Some craic here. As good a game as you will see and people have more interest in a bit of handbags that lasted about 20 seconds. Not real football fans just interested in one upmanship to make them feel good. Well played Donegal. Hopefully we beat you next time

Call it for what it was, thuggery, playing the man not the ball on numerous occassions.

Hopefully they all got out of intensive care over the weekend, they'd be a big loss for the Tyrone game

You seem to think it's only thuggery if someone has to go to hospital.

No, all the lads got up and played on, even the one that held his face when he wasn't even hit in it..

Armagh aint no shrinking violets, there were hits and there were fouls and the ref called them, its championship football.

Enjoy the next round, no doubt Tyrone will be a lot easier on the Armagh lads

At no point did I want to make this about Armagh  v Antrim.
" there were hits" is exactly the phrase I'm interested in.
No problem with hits/ hard hits but there is a duty on all players not to make contact with the head of another player.
My point is that we have got it wrong.In rugby the responsibility lies totally with the tackler to avoid head contact.In our game that responsibility is not given the same importance.
I genuinely don't care if it's Armagh v Antrim or Leitrim v Sligo, a blow to the head should mean instant dismissal ( whether as a black or red at the discretion of the referee).
Unfortunately I fear it will take a serious head injury to force change.

I agree totally with you here. There have been far too many tackles to the head so far in the championship. Leaving Armagh v Antrim aside many have said Paudie Clifford should never have got a red. I'd be more of the opinion that while I would have given a yellow if the referee considers it severe enough we cannot complain about the red. If players thought they could get a red they may be more careful in their tackling.

I also find it worrying that some consider it part of the game. Head injuries can have lifelong effects.

Worst 20 minutes of refereeing I've seen in a long time.

What call was wrong? Armagh player didnt give ball back and gave away a 50m free which resulted in the goal. Correct call.

Armagh management shouting at the decision. Free given as per rules. Correct call.

Aramgh lad pulled down tyrone player. Black card given. Correct call.

All calls were correct and came directly from poor discipline.

The Armagh lad held ball out to the Tyrone lad who didn't take it. Are we suggesting the rules state that you have to wait until it suits the opposition player to take the ball. If he had have pushed the ball into the players stomach he would have been carded.

Yes. If the referee punches a player he can still move it forward 50m if a manager complains.

Aaron O'Neill pulled the lad who had run into his chest off the ball.( I watched it back ) A different referee would have carded the Tyrone lad.

As others have said Tyrone got the rub of the green today but club matches could become a nightmare.

For what it is worth Armagh did better than I thought and I think Tyrone would still have won if the game had have stayed close and even to the end.

While my preference would always be for Antrim to get a home venue and as a season ticket holder from the start I would never be one of the 8 I find the embarrassing thing here is that so many have jumped on a poster who suggests a different view. What is the use of a forum if alternative views are treated this way?

Ok, talk me through this statement


I'm not 1 of the 8 but wish them every success.
As I've posted many times I've absolutely no time for the argument that the players had "a right" to a home game.

My only regret is that it will be the Association and not the players  who end up settling.

I've said it before but it bears repeating,  if Antrim had any chance of winning anything the players would not have been nearly as militant but throwing them out of the competition would have meant nothing.

I cannot speak for the original poster but alternative views:

1. Antrim do not have a ground suitable to hold the fixture and health and safety said it should be held elsewhere.
2. Season ticket holders have a right to buy a ticket for the game.
3. The GAA decided to ignore season ticket holder rights and some - as they are permitted - decide to take legal action.

Worst case outcome for season ticket holders - GAA scrap scheme and genuine supporters lose out.

Contra

1. Antrim were first out of hat and should be at home.
2. Many think this is straightforward and simple.

However,

1. The GAA lose out in thousands that could be put to the development of Casement.
2. Many genuine supporters lose out.
3. Will the result be that all matches are played at neutral venues be the result? That would mean venues like Ballybofey for example would be less likely to get games due to geography.

There are many other considerations too. My argument is that so many ' traditional thinkers ' disagree with a posters opinion and collectively suggest what they say is embarrassing instead of putting an argument against their position.

While my preference would always be for Antrim to get a home venue and as a season ticket holder from the start I would never be one of the 8 I find the embarrassing thing here is that so many have jumped on a poster who suggests a different view. What is the use of a forum if alternative views are treated this way?

I always got the impression over the last number of years that many benefits help big business owners more than the poorer in society. Yes there are plenty taking the p**s. However, who benefits when those working also need universal credit to live. Businesses in many of these cases are underpaying their workers knowing they can get this benefit. The businesses then make more money to pay out in bonuses or dividends. In effect as much as they are helping the poorer in society these policies are filling the pockets of the richer.

Was Jarlath asked about the 'Armagh' situation last night?

Yeah. Just said he and the Armagh cb were involved in the background, that he has his own opinions but obviously can't comment yet.

But can comment on other stuff.

Not wanting to rock the boat on is own county.

Jarlath speaking out of both sides of his mouth. He may go through the local papers and see who's done what if he's to continue on in this vein and issue statements on a daily basis.


An a-lâ carte menu.

But he didn't issue a statement on Gallagher. He sent a private email to Naas that someone else released. How do we know he didn't send other emails and those clubs/ persons respected the privacy of the email.

As for the Armagh incident. What else can he say? It is under police investigation. I would suspect it would be illegal for him to say anymore than he has. I would assume he has taken advice on this.

Have to agree with Rufus here. The Lissummon proposal is only a sticking plaster and to be fair to them, it did try to include seconds teams to an extent. But the possible addition of another 4 or 5 seconds teams to the junior championship was probably a step too far.
I come from a junior club myself and have consistently stated that I like to see seconds teams enter all county league football a it's giving lads consistent games and keeping them a part of their club. I've always had an issue with them entering the junior championship however as it should be for junior clubs. Seconds teams are reserve teams in all but name and should play in a reserve championship.

I'll have to add I agree completely here. The GAA is a ' for all' organisation. As much as junior clubs deserve a proper target to play for to sustain them bigger clubs need to provide football for as many playing age players as possible. For example would it have been possible for Clann Eireann to have developed so successfully without giving young players the chance to play football past minor? Playing seconds teams in the league with a separate championship seems the most viable option.

Personally preferred BBC

Whatever happened to plans for the training centre in Portadown, still on track or stalled?

Where do Armagh currently train?

Callanbridge. Armagh City

I saw that, the Buncrana Cup would be fairly prestigious - when is the last time Armagh reached the final? Haven't heard of the u15 competition before if I'm honest.

As far as I know the under 16s won the under 15 competition last year - or at least got to the final.

The Buncrana Cup final is against Tyrone.

Having said that, I just saw the Monaghan black card. Not sure what he thinks he saw.

I was sitting in Davin End with Monaghan supporters and we all thought black card was right in real time. Shows the rule - as written - is stupid. It looked like a deliberate trip. TV replays suggest otherwise.

The only way anyone could agree with McGEeney on this is they also agree that when a team defending a one point lead in injury time should legitimately be able to protect that lead and use up all remaining time, by laying claim to a head injury.

Would clock not be stopped for injuries