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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2019
« on: March 22, 2019, 06:48:03 PM »
Was really looking forward to the Cork game on Sunday from the draw was made as months ago i assumed this would be win or bust game for Armagh but has turned out the opposite as we've nothing to play for...Obviously Cork need the win but from an Armagh perspective it's meaningless, will KmcG give squad members some game time and will he rest anyone carrying a knock etc...I'd imagine he will which could well give Cork the advantage they need. It's has not got me bursting to get a ticket for the game although i know i'll still end up at it.

What way does it leave Cork if they win, If Tipp beat Clare and Cork win Tipp will still be relegated on the head to head, is this correct. If Clare beat Tipp and Cork win, cork will be relegated as Clare beat cork, is this correct?

If Cork beat Armagh and Tip and Clare draw then Cork stay up.
If Cork beat Armagh and Tip beat Clare then Cork will stay up as Cork beat Tip.
If Cork win and Clare beat Tip then Tip and Cork are both relegated.

(I) Points awarded in league.
(II) If 2 teams are level on points relegation is determined by head to head result
(III) If more than 2 teams end up on same points then relegation is decided based on score difference.

Cork with something to play for then, there should be mighty crowd from the Lee in Armagh.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: March 21, 2019, 11:52:52 PM »
29th March or 11th April?

14 Brumaire?
31st April?

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 12:57:11 PM »
Why can this not be compared to Hillsborough and if it can't why are all media outlets getting Phil Scratons views on it. He was very definitive on what the questions need to be asked and he doesn't mention the children being the problem.

Hillsborough had actions that lead to the problem inside the venue.
Media talk about it because it is well known and because they are hard put to find an example of a fatal crush in an open car park outside a disco.

"In all situations involving people going out for a night out there is a responsibility to put their safety to the forefront,"

No doubt about this.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:35:17 AM »
While I think itís a bit early to be apportioning blame I donít think you can really compare what happened at Hillsborough to what happened in Cookstown. This incident was caused by young people shoving and pushing, and the chances are some if not all of them were drunk. See the young girls Facebook post which has gone viral.

Exactly. This incident was caused by people pushing and they will likely get off scot-free. It became a tragedy because of bad layout and bad management and it is entirely appropriate that there is a thorough investigation as to why. 

GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: March 19, 2019, 01:35:12 PM »
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didnít they just play it in Parnell Park.

Feck all atmosphere in Parnell Park. They could have played it out of Dublin, say Thurles.

£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

you got to breathe the good Cross' air.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:50:15 PM »
I dunno - I have seen things suggesting that delays and uncertainty are crippling business. I think some businesses would rather it was got on with even if they don't favour the outcome as the uncertainty is crippling them.

There are businesses on this island which will become unviable in 10 days if there is no deal. You might be uncertain as to when they were going to hang you, but that is not necessarily a reason to want to advance the date, especially as there may be a reprieve.

General discussion / Re: Cookstown Incident
« on: March 18, 2019, 03:05:59 PM »
Shocking news. Condolences to the families. Itís crazy to think how something like this can unfold. Doesnít look good for the people running the event that they initiallyseemed oblivious to what was going on outside.

Is a crush getting into a disco common? Hillsborough type events can create a rush because the game starts. creating sense of urgency. Crushes in discos are normally caused by a  fire or panic to leave the venue. What created a crush to get into a disco that was likely going to continue for 3 or 4 hours? Was there a big shower or something?

General discussion / Re: A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.
« on: March 18, 2019, 02:52:12 PM »
Please tell you have read the GFA??

Surely you know that that which you describe as SFís fundamental objective isnít actually available??

If SF secure and win a UI referendum in NI and then another in RoI then NI continues to exist, stormont continues to exist, Britain remains a co guarantor of GFA.

In principle NI could vote a further future date to leave UI and the GFA would continue to provide for that. Not saying that those provisions would be actually called upon

Where does it say that?

GAA Discussion / Re: TG4 - Club Championships Coverage
« on: March 17, 2019, 05:38:37 PM »
Corofin are the Crossmaglen of Connacht.

GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2019
« on: March 15, 2019, 09:49:07 PM »
Brave bit  of rain, with some sleet thrown in, before Fermanagh's visit to God's own country. It should stop a couple of hours before the game though.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: March 15, 2019, 09:30:53 PM »
I presume SF will scupper that plan by not going back?

The question to who then holds the powers if there is no Stormont.

My guess is that the Ulster Council realised at the outset that the British government offer was too good to be true and that it would likely be scrapped if circumstances changed or anything happened Cameron's government.

So they deliberately put themselves in a position where there would be no stadium at all if it didn't get completed.

But they never spotted the planning issues.

Heads must roll.

The proper thing to do was to demolish the main stand or some such, but carefully not damage the pitch. This would create a need for the work, without completely depriving Antrim of the use of the ground.

General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: March 14, 2019, 01:21:27 PM »
What worries me is what have the DUP got in terms of concessions for backing this deal.
I would say they have the governments word that there will be no border poll

If there is a backstop then there is the Secretary of State can plausibly say that there does not appear to be a majority in favour of a UI. Of course this is not really a gain for the DUP as if there had been no Brexit a border poll would not be seen as a current thing.

Why did they shut it down altogether?
Whatever the outcome I would have expected the Stadium would continue to be used till work started.

Keeping it open would be common sense. I'd love to know who decided to do otherwise.

General discussion / Re: Most hated phrase.
« on: March 13, 2019, 05:31:10 PM »
the Americans and their "reach out".

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