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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: April 02, 2020, 04:07:15 PM »
Another 569 deaths logged today in the uk

Will Johnson survive this complete f**king mess he is overseeing? His total stupidity will ended up killing 10's of thousands of people.

If there's any natural justice, neither him nor any of the other failures leading the response to this crisis in the UK should ever be allowed hold a position of responsibility for the rest of their days.

But they'll be fine. They'll keep coming out with trite nationalistic rallying cries about the heroes in the NHS and the Great British spirit, and loads of thickos across the water will get it into their heads that they're all 'doing their best', and that any criticism is either partisan, or spiteful, or not helpful during this Great British emergency.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: April 02, 2020, 03:30:23 PM »
I see this hotshot has cracked it:




Forgets about your wet markets, lack of testing, masks, all that shite. It's all because of the gays. Or abortion. Or both.

www.itv.com/news/utv/2020-04-02/dup-councillor-blames-coronavirus-pandemic-on-god-s-judgment-for-legalising-abortion

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 31, 2020, 04:35:45 PM »
Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet

We don’t have enough evidence yet to know if recovering from covid-19 induces immunity, or whether any immunity would give long-lasting protection against the coronavirus

HEALTH 25 March 2020
By Graham Lawton

SAY you have caught covid-19 and recovered – are you now immune for life, or could you catch it again? We just don’t know yet.

In February, reports emerged of a woman in Japan who had been given the all-clear after having covid-19 but then tested positive for the SARS-CoV-2 virus a second time. There have also been reports of a man in Japan testing positive after being given the all-clear, and anecdotal cases of second positives have emerged from China, too.

This has raised fears that people may not develop immunity to the virus. This would mean that, until we have an effective vaccine, we could all experience repeated rounds of infection.

But the science is still uncertain. “There is some anecdotal evidence of reinfections, but we really don’t know,” says Ira Longini at the University of Florida. It may be that the tests used were unreliable, which is a problem with tests for other respiratory viruses, says Jeffrey Shaman at Columbia University in New York.

Early signs from small animal experiments are reassuring. A team from the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences in Beijing exposed four rhesus macaques to the virus. A week later, all four were ill with covid-19-like symptoms and had high virus loads. Two weeks later, the macaques had recovered and were confirmed to have antibodies to the virus in their bloodstream.

The researchers then tried to reinfect two of them but failed, which suggests the animals were immune (bioRxiv, doi.org/ggn8r8). “That finding is very encouraging, as it suggests that it is possible to induce protective immunity against the virus,” says Alfredo Garzino-Demo at the University of Maryland School of Medicine.

But that doesn’t necessarily mean long-term immunity. There are other coronaviruses circulating among humans and although they induce immunity, this doesn’t last. “Some other viruses in the coronavirus family, such as those that cause common colds, tend to induce immunity that is relatively short-lived, at around three months,” says Peter Openshaw at Imperial College London.

“Because [the virus] is so new, we do not yet know how long any protection generated through infection will last. We urgently need more research looking at the immune responses of people who have recovered from infection to be sure,” says Openshaw.

Other immunologists agree. “Immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is not yet well understood and we do not know how protective the antibody response will be in the long-term,” says Erica Bickerton at the Pirbright Institute in the UK.

“For ordinary coronavirus infections, you do not get lasting immunity,” says Longini. “You can be infected over and over, and we really don’t know for this novel coronavirus if that’s also true.”


Other infectious disease specialists are more optimistic. “The evidence is increasingly convincing that infection with SARS-CoV-2 leads to an antibody response that is protective. Most likely this protection is for life,” says Martin Hibberd at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine. “Although we need more evidence to be sure of this, people who have recovered are unlikely to be infected with SARS-CoV-2 again.”


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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 30, 2020, 09:56:25 PM »
Are you insinuating in any way that there will be any doubtful financial practice going on?? The company behind this is fully regulated,  as a service product VAT will be charged unless you're from ROI.


Give me your opinion on this Gallsman as you are the only single negative voice on this so far! Sorry I'm not on Twitter either.

Let's take  my boss the man who decided weeks ago to purchase these self test kits is looking back on his "enterprise" in a few months when/if things settle down.

He will hopefully have sold 250,000 kits and made netting one pound on each after tax postage employees etc. Of the self assessment kits let's say 1/10 - that's  25 thousand people get a positive diagnosis a week earlier than they normally would, and 1/100 of those who did so (that's 250) lives were saved because not only did they act early, but are well slept well got their immune systems strong, avoided absolutely everyone, etc, etc.

I'd say this particular businessman acted wisely and with decent morality and in not only keeping his company viable going forward played a big part in saving 250 people.

Do you think those 250 people and their families will think he was profiteering by making netting £1 out of each sale????

Just saying I think you're very quick assumption on the matter is on the wrong side of opinion here Gallsman.

Having said that I'm still prob not going to get involved...might pass on a lead or two that's about it.

Surely these are antibody tests rather than diagnostic tests? They’ll tell you if you’ve had the virus and now have the antibodies to show for it, but they are of limited benefit if you’ve only just contracted it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
« on: March 27, 2020, 02:48:35 PM »
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

was about to say same thing if thats how a weaker team can realistically make it to qf
Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.

Yeah, but is that such a bad thing?

The current format (even more than the pre-qualifier era) favours the big teams, and it’s boring as hell.

Look at the 1st round games we’ve had in the past: Dublin Meath 1991, Derry Down 1994. Who wouldn’t want that?

2008 FA cup. All the big teams went out. Portsmouth Cardiff West Brom and Barnsley were the last four. If we had the odd season like that, it would do wonders for the championship

Yeah, things like that happening have really seen the FA Cup go from strength to strength.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 20, 2020, 03:42:31 PM »
And where should the kids of front line staff go?

Where do they go down south?

So don’t close the schools then. As it stands we will have about 60% of the school in.

But is 40% at home not better than 0% at home? Is it not all relative? Btw, I am not saying the action is correct but surely any limiting of contact is better than none?

Yeah. Even if half the kids are still coming in, the effect of the other half being away cuts transmission rates by 50%.

Problem is keeping kids who are off school properly distanced. Drive around Belfast, or probably any town in the north, today and you'll see large groups of teens out enjoying the sunshine together. And parents dragging hordes of primary school age kids around the shops. People, young and not so young, are treating this like their summer holidays.

The message is not getting through. Not even close. We need a shutdown and cops on the street sending people home.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 19, 2020, 09:50:32 PM »
The UK have 104 deaths as of today.  If we / they are tracking at the same rate as Italy the number tomorrow should be approx 145.
Will be interesting to see.
144!

That was very accurate. What's your thoughts on the upcoming days

It'll be approx 190 - 195

Yep, as per this:

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1240331177686433793?s=19

Exactly two weeks behind Italy. And they're actually doing something about it. The UK will end up hardest hit out of anywhere in Europe by the time this is done, even with the advanced warning they were given. Diabolical mistakes have been made, and still being made. The fallout will be colossal - it will change the country forever.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: March 16, 2020, 02:00:18 PM »
I don't know if it's right or wrong. Neither do you. Nobody does. We'll know in a year when we've gone through another winter. What I do know is that I'd follow the advice of leading scientists, before that of a load of arseholes writing under a story on Facebook, that this is a medical experiment. The oul ones are mostly Tory voters so there is no way Boris is knocking them off.

You accept that uk is only country following this "herd immunity" approach though? So from that we can extrapolate the brits think they have better scientists than anywhere else in the world. So they either do or they don't.  I think they are arrogant and this is part of he "we are free from the EU so can do our own thing" mentality. I fear it will be catastrophic and the north should follow the EU approach.

What is the EU approach?

Ate you living in a cave ffs. Google it. The EU are doing what the WHO recommend we do.

But the EU response is to support individual member states in whatever steps the want to take and where they can benefit from cooperation to aid that cooperation. Health and public health are devolved matters. The is a wide and evolving range of responses in EU states.

So not in a cave. Googled it as you said and stand by my original question

What countries in the EU are going a different route to the WHO?

Sweden. The ballbags.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 12, 2020, 02:02:26 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-51836206

The f**kers know we're vulnerable.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 10, 2020, 11:55:27 PM »

Who’s not taking precautions?

The amount of boarders who lose their shit to anonymous strangers is staggering

Calm down love, not every post in this thread is aimed directly at you.

As for who still isn't taking adequate precautions? A significant proportion of the population, in my observations these last few days anyway. It helps to reinforce the message that the little things we can all do matters greatly.

Sadly, as the virus establishes here it's likely only a matter of time before the 'sure there's nothing we can do about it now' trope gains traction. It's usually the next weapon in the denialist's arsenal once the 'it's not really that serious' line becomes too hot to spin.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 10, 2020, 11:00:59 PM »



I thought this was a nice simple graphic to explain the need for taking responsible action over the next while. Just in case anyone out there was still insistent on being a dick.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 08, 2020, 10:42:39 PM »
Look it is what it is, we all have someone close to us (both parents for me) that fall into the bracket of vulnerability to catching and (heaven forbid) succumbing to a deadly virus earlier than expected, but the doomsday’s carry on at the minute is out of or control, let’s see it out, bit like brexit  ;)

Didn't realise brexit was killing folk by the hour.

By the hour? How many weeks now? Christmas was 3 months ago? Death rate in Ireland is?

The first case in Ireland was confirmed 10 days ago.

Already we 28 cases on the island, with one man seriously ill in intensive care. He may die.

This is clearly trending in the same direction here as elsewhere. Countries where hundreds have died in the space of a few weeks.

I can't understand why some remain so resolutely flippant and dismissive of this crisis. Are they trolling? Or are they just as dangerous thick as it seems?

This thickness would be funny if it wasn't so serious. And it's serious because what people do next matters.

It's the difference between washing your hands properly, or thinking you don't have to bother. It's the difference between working from home, or heading into the office with your 'head cold' and developing cough. It's the difference between sitting at home waiting for the result of a diagnostic test, or going to play a game of reserve soccer and potentially exposing dozens to the virus.

It's the difference in the slowing the spread of the virus until some additional medical facilities can be made available that will save the lives of people you know, or the virus spreading unabated and killing some of your neighbours/ friends/ family members.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: March 08, 2020, 07:06:15 PM »
Great Scott what a win for United, a first league double over City for a decade.  A  win built on a solid defensive performance.  10 games unbeaten in all comps and 8 clean sheets in those matches. As for City three defeats to United in transition this season and they are meant to be the 2nd best in the league?

Back to United though still 3 points off 4th and it seems Chelsea has hit top form after beating Everton and Liverpool so all to play for.

Is 3rd coming back into play too, though? Leicester have been on a very poor run since Christmas, albeit have faced a tough run of fixtures. Only 5 points ahead of United now, will be interesting to see if they can make the most of their game in hand tomorrow night.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 08, 2020, 06:32:35 PM »
This is why Covid19 is so dangerous. This is a modern country with excellent healthcare facilities, they are sending out a stark warning.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html

Up to 10% of cases needing intensive care treatment.

In the north there are approx. 100 intensive care beds in total.

And only 20% of these are not already occupied. So that's 20 available beds for the entire region.

At a 10% rate of admission to ICU, we start to run out of facilities to adequately treat people once you have more than 200 concurrent cases.

Barring a miracle, an unprecedented shitstorm is coming that will kill thousands of people around us. Most of these will be elderly and/ or already ill, but I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to just write off other human beings.

This isn't swine flu or bird flu or SARS or regular old flu. This is a threat unparalleled in our lifetimes. Any lingering flippancy or ignorance of the gravity of the situation is unforgivable - the facts are out there for everyone to access.

The one thing that’s clear above all other things right now, is that you have succumbed to confirmation bias.

A predictably trite contribution from the board's contrarian in chief. You'd do well to quit always trying to find the other side of things - most often it's just not there.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: March 08, 2020, 05:15:33 PM »
This is why Covid19 is so dangerous. This is a modern country with excellent healthcare facilities, they are sending out a stark warning.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html

Up to 10% of cases needing intensive care treatment.

In the north there are approx. 100 intensive care beds in total.

And only 20% of these are not already occupied. So that's 20 available beds for the entire region.

At a 10% rate of admission to ICU, we start to run out of facilities to adequately treat people once you have more than 200 concurrent cases.

Barring a miracle, an unprecedented shitstorm is coming that will kill thousands of people around us. Most of these will be elderly and/ or already ill, but I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to just write off other human beings.

This isn't swine flu or bird flu or SARS or regular old flu. This is a threat unparalleled in our lifetimes. Any lingering flippancy or ignorance of the gravity of the situation is unforgivable - the facts are out there for everyone to access.

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