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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 08:14:55 PM »
Will you be happy if the vaccine doesnít go to plan?

No.

But I think some people need a reality check if they think big pharma are an ethical industry and are doing this for something other than profits.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 08:06:25 PM »
Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I donít think there is a plan b after this

Where did you see this? I haven't seen any indication that's true when the vaccine is given as per Pfizer's instructions.

Also the Norwegians have confirmed they could find no link between the vaccine and the deaths of elderly people as had been suggested last week

More complete and utter lies. The Norwegians said the deaths were likely to reactions to the vaccine. You are shameful.
Mind telling us who said what?
Who are "The Norewegians" and what exactly did they say?

The Norwegian Medical Agency.

Ask Dublin7 why he is spreading lies.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 06:38:23 PM »
Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I donít think there is a plan b after this

Where did you see this? I haven't seen any indication that's true when the vaccine is given as per Pfizer's instructions.

Also the Norwegians have confirmed they could find no link between the vaccine and the deaths of elderly people as had been suggested last week

More complete and utter lies. The Norwegians said the deaths were likely to reactions to the vaccine. You are shameful.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 06:09:41 PM »
Bad news regarding the vaccine
Not as powerful as being made out
Plan B needed and needed very soon
I donít think there is a plan b after this

They threw their eggs into one basket. This vaccine is not the quick fix people expected.

Hard to see any end to the current situation. The governments have failed us once again.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:55:38 PM »
Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)
Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

That is a game changer if true.

The virus could be eradicated if that's the case providing the developed world work their bollox off to help the developing nations to roll out the vaccine.

You think big pharma want to eradicate this virus?  ;D

What we will have is "new strains" and yearly boosters that we will need to get to combat this.

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So it looks like the vaccine was nowhere near as successful as trials indicated according to data from Israel.

Well who would have thought that?

All those pig pharma cheerleaders look like idiots now.

The vaccine (pfizer) should be successful. The way governments choose to roll it out makes it less effective.

Nowhere near as effective as their trials suggested.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 05:51:31 PM »
Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

There is not enough vaccine at present, it is being distributed in the developed world where they are able to do it and the population is oldest. Production of vaccines will ramp up greatly and everyone can then get done. There is a production bottleneck but a lot of people are working on changing this.
One dose of the Pfizer vaccine may not be great, but other data in Israel shows that 2 doses are about as effective as could be.
https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science/article/H1jaK7mkd

Important to note as well that their research shows that people who receive the two doses will not become carriers and are unlikely to pass on the virus to others. That should be emphasised to people who think they don't need the vaccine (especially the younger generation who think covid can't affect them)
Is this definite? Would be great news if true and should put to bed the arguments around the benefits of the vaccine.

Dublin7 is a known liar.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 03:58:20 PM »
Definitely some worrying news starting to filter through about the vaccine. An uneven spread of distribution around the world which defeats the purpose of immunisation. A delay in the Astra vaccine in Ireland until mid February at the earliest and probably worst of all is reports from Israel that they believe one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is giving just 33% efficacy. If we are in this for the long haul then surely closing borders, 14 day hotel quarantine and letting us get on with it is the only viable option.

That's not quite true. What they said was if the 2nd dose is given within the 14 days of the 1st dose as recommended then the vaccine is performing as advertised by Pfizer.

People who received the 2nd dose after 14 days (21 days recommended limit) then they see a drop off in the perfomance of the vaccine and that's were they are getting the 33% efficacy figure

Well who would have thought it.

You've made look quite the mug by big pharma yet again. More slow learning by dublin7.

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So it looks like the vaccine was nowhere near as successful as trials indicated according to data from Israel.

Well who would have thought that?

All those pig pharma cheerleaders look like idiots now.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 03:00:29 PM »
Nurse from a Cork Hospital on the News tonight talking about the trauma of treating young people unable to breathe because of this awful virus.

Do you ever post about the awful trauma of suicide victims, road traffic deaths or cancer sufferers or do you cynically use Covid as a train for your own sanctimony.

Maybe have a word with a domestic abuse victim about her trauma.

Your Gay Byrne facade would make anyone sick.

The irony of this post is just stunning!
 ;D ;D ;D

No irony there at all.

Where guys like you put Covid victims up at the top of a hierarchy I have consistently argued that we need to look at all victims equally and at the minute we are not doing that.

We have you usual empty smartarse comment before you'll run on again. Tell me why Covid victims are above everyone else. Show me your concern and your demand that we address other causes of preventable deaths that happen on an ongoing, annual basis. I don't expect you'll be able to address this - quelle surprise.

 ;D ;D
No irony at all. (Sarcasm)

You're not worth conversing with on this topic as you cant see any point of view but your own and resort to insult when someone disagrees with you.
But just for the craic....you say...
     
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you cynically use Covid as a train for your own sanctimony.
Then on the very next line:
     
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Maybe have a word with a domestic abuse victim about her trauma.

Looks like someone is using domestic abuse as a train for their own sanctimony.

 ;D ;D ;D

Yes. That's exposing his sanctimony. If he can show me where he is so sympathetic to other causes of deaths that are currently happening then he has me beaten but it seems to me that he has used this thread as a vehicle to show us how much he cares when it's very hollow.

The floor is Rossfan's but like his fellow free state coward in Dublin7, when the floor is there for them to fight these accusations they are simply unable to.

Do not do unto other others......

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General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
« on: January 20, 2021, 01:13:35 PM »
More scandal for Varadkar and Harris today.

Seems like they told a lot of porkies over the leaked document.

Indeed. New information exposed by a FOI request by Pearse Doherty. Tried to read up about the story on RT…. Silly me.

That should be unbelievable but it's par the course for RTE.

Varadkar should be facing criminal charges on this.

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General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
« on: January 20, 2021, 12:56:02 PM »
More scandal for Varadkar and Harris today.

Seems like they told a lot of porkies over the leaked document.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: January 20, 2021, 12:33:48 PM »
Nurse from a Cork Hospital on the News tonight talking about the trauma of treating young people unable to breathe because of this awful virus.

Do you ever post about the awful trauma of suicide victims, road traffic deaths or cancer sufferers or do you cynically use Covid as a train for your own sanctimony.

Maybe have a word with a domestic abuse victim about her trauma.

Your Gay Byrne facade would make anyone sick.

The irony of this post is just stunning!
 ;D ;D ;D

No irony there at all.

Where guys like you put Covid victims up at the top of a hierarchy I have consistently argued that we need to look at all victims equally and at the minute we are not doing that.

We have you usual empty smartarse comment before you'll run on again. Tell me why Covid victims are above everyone else. Show me your concern and your demand that we address other causes of preventable deaths that happen on an ongoing, annual basis. I don't expect you'll be able to address this - quelle surprise.

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General discussion / Re: What is the point of this board anymore?
« on: January 20, 2021, 11:31:47 AM »
Take away the Covid thread, there isn't too much wrong with gaaboard. It's a bit of craic, Covid has impacted some, alot more than others. Emotive topics like that will always end in a mess. Just the nature of the beast.

Why take away any existing threads? How about the mods maybe reign in the nastiness a bit? We're all adults here (I think) and should, in the most part be able to post without the nastiness. Take the teachers on here, should they have to read that venom last night? In civilised forum, no way

What venom?

Plenty of lads like to dish out the venom but don't seem to be too good at taking it back then.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On
« on: January 20, 2021, 11:25:35 AM »
As it stands now Jimmy is a one trick pony, if he returns to the game  to do something more then that status can change. He hasn't put in the shift I think he could have led that Donegal squad to another 2 or 3 AI finals.

There was a short window with that Donegal team though. I think a lot of those lads were done after 2014. Big players for Donegal like McFadden, Lacey, Kavanagh, Toye, E McGee, Gallagher were all the wrong side of 30 and Donegal under McGuinness had very, very little in terms of quality in depth. McGuinness got that job too late really. If he had taken that Donegal team on 3 or 4 years earlier then they certainly had 2 or 3 All Irelands in them.

Rory Gallagher really got handed a poisoned chalice when he took on that job, the transition phase where all those men were coming to their natural conclusion and youngsters who needed a few more years to show their worth.

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