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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 10:58:05 AM »
By an inch but Howard is so naturally strong a player and a fantastic athlete and fielder.

But I'm mainly talking about the inside forwards who have to win the ball. Our inside line has looked much better this year when Donnelly and McShane were inside that when we've had the small lads in there.

Kinda, partly as they were kicked the ball.

There was nothing worse looking the year before than Mark Bradley 1 on 1 and about 60 metres of space and an absolute refusal to kick the man an early ball instead the old obsession with running the ball and letting him then get swallowed up.

McShane and Donnelly can win any type of ball. Bradley can't. The best season Bradley had for Tyrone was 2015 when he was operating as a schemer out around the half forward line. He's too small to play inside, sadly.

Always thought the best combination Tyrone could have upfront is mcshane along with either lee brennan or mark bradley. Mcshane has the strength to win his own ball and bradley especially has the pace and skill to beat his opponent to the ball. If brennan, bradley or mccurry had been upfront with mcshane in the Kerry game they would have streched that defensive even further and game would been over at half time.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 19, 2019, 08:23:55 PM »
Only one of real concern if this is true is sludden. Coney showed great maturity coming back into the squad but never really got much of chance bar the dublin game.not sure if c McCann is much less as hesvent really see that much of him

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 19, 2019, 03:20:33 PM »
Rumours have started already about him stepping down due to the supposed water incident.  Dont believe the rumour at all but the timing of his departure isn't great

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 19, 2019, 11:44:42 AM »
Stevie o Neill officially gone.

Stevie and Peter now gone. Tyrone not looking good for next year already.

Will expect a more defensive tyrone side next year which is a step backwards.

If anymore personnel leave questions will have to be asked by the county board.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 18, 2019, 12:49:59 PM »
O'neill is gone! Wise move. Knows next year will end in tears.

Has this been confirmed. Always wondered what his input really was. Was he allowed to train the forwards as he wanted or as Mickey said?

Ah come on, his influence on McShane was clear to see. That ability to turn the defender and receive the ball at the same time, the directness and the confidence shoot to on sight had OíNeillís finger prints all over it.

No I agree with you but I wonder if his impact has been limited due to the system we play. A forward coach will have limited impact if they only play 1 forward up front. Thought lee brennan would have been a star under o'Neil as he had the natural forward ability.

Seen an interview recently describing what it's like in dublin dressing room at half time.  Seems abit like American football where the defensive and forward coaches speak to their respective players with Jim saying little. Cant imagine it's like that in the tyrone set up

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 18, 2019, 07:30:23 AM »
O'neill is gone! Wise move. Knows next year will end in tears.

Has this been confirmed. Always wondered what his input really was. Was he allowed to train the forwards as he wanted or as Mickey said?


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This is completely pointless now. Match is over. Tyrone will continue to fail when presented with a challenge and deegan will continue to award soft free against tyrone. Leave it at that.

I do hope however that everyone defending deegan is as forgiving when their team get on the wrong end of bad ref calls. But somehow I doubt it

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Yes Deegan gave Kerry a couple of handy frees after half time, yes he was being an absolute tool with regards calling frees from 60 yards away and yes he could have called for fouls on Harte for off the ball stuff. But ffs Kerry were a far better team, Tyrone played their usual defensive shite, missed handy chances and gave the ball away cheaply leading to Kerry scores. At the end of the day Peter Harte is one of Tyrones best players, teams are obviously going to look to nullify him however they can, (like Tyrone have done plenty of times to the likes of the Gooch) but thats where Harte should have been putting OíSullivan on his arse or if hes not fit to one of the other lads should have, rather than crying looking frees. Tyrone got what they deserved from that game regardless of the ref.

lol you pointed out numerous ways in which the ref screwed tryone out of it but still say kerry were the better team. How can 1 team be the better team if they are relying on the ref to give them easy scores and to ignore their fouling. Doesnt really make much sense.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are non-Tyrone people obsessed about Tyrone?
« on: August 15, 2019, 10:34:35 PM »
Listen all teams have had dirty players over the years and all teams are at this sort of this shit  which most of the team fans choose to Ignore.

I have no problem with that, the problem I have is when fans of these teams point the holier than tho finger and when the media e.g mainly ex Kerry players cry about it but ignore their own teams behaviour.

No successfull county in the last 20 years have been squeaky clean.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are non-Tyrone people obsessed about Tyrone?
« on: August 15, 2019, 10:29:10 PM »


You also had various incidents at under age in a short space of time  involving Tyrone were I think at u21 level an opposition manager refused to shake hands with Tyrone manager because of the verbal abuse aimed at his players and a separate incident were a Tyrone player was accused of sledging an opponent about his Dad dying!!!

Sour grapes. Some of the dirt from the Tipp players was shocking that day including their midfielder stamping down on a prone McShane. In fact the amount of late and filthy hits McShane took that day was well across the line.

You sling enough mud and it will stick and that's what the media have done with Tyrone.

Imagine people were bringing up the fact that under Jim Gavin, Dublin have been involved in the following incidents

2x biting allegations (O'Gara and O'Brien)
2x gouging incidents (McCarthy and O'Gara)
At least 3 diving incidents in Championship football where a Dublin player tried to get an opposing player sent off (Cooper v Monaghan, McMahon v Mayo and Mannion v Meath)
A behind closed doors mass brawl in a friendly game
A player pushing a match official
Etc

Tyrone seem to be the only county who have a log kept on their transgressions.

Dont forget philly eye gouging the star

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The time McShane got was the same if not more than the 5 times Kerry's advantage wasn't pulled back. The bluntness of the foul doesn't matter, Deegan should have given the free once it obvious there was no advantage and running into 3 Tyrone players is hardly an advantage for O'Brien compared to a scorable free for O'Shea.
The off the ball fouls on Harte were miniscule in comparison to that on O'Shea, Geaney and Clifford.

You're talking out of your arse. Go back and watch the game and report on what happened in the match, not what happened in your vivid imagination. Kerry had numerous frees pulled back when there was no advantage, they lost the advantage numerous when soft fouls were called outside the 45 yard line and they ran the ball into trouble after.

They were getting their frees miles handier than Tyrone were. O'Shea was the player who was conning the referee with Meyler. He got one free where he grabbed Meyler's outstretched hand and threw himself to ground, it was ridiculous, it looked ridiculous, basic physics would have told you that O'Shea was falling in the wrong direction to be fouled but Deegan went for it straight away. I was in 333 in the Hogan and I could tell from that far away there was no way that could be a free.

There's no doubt Tyrone will be kicking themselves with the misses and mistakes they made. They probably weren't good enough to win but neither would Kerry have been good enough to win that only for Maurice Deegan.

Are you a Kerry man yourself or just the Colm O'Rourke type wannabe one?

Giving out about O'Shea throwing himself to the ground? Really? After O'Shea pushes Donnelly in the chest, Donnelly throws himself to the ground, clutching his head.

What it again. Was to his neck/chin not his head.

Ironic that a kerry player hit his own player a slap on the head and signalled to the ref for a head injury

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:00:38 AM »
It's ironic that this tyrone team are labelled as cycnical and nasty when in actual fact they are too nice. The Tyrone team of old would not have allowed peter harte to be treated that way.

Aside from the questions around skill level and side line tactics I think this tyrone team are too nice and soft. They need a bit more venom in them to stand up to teams when all this off the  ball stuff goes on.

My big concern is that majority of players bar a few care  more about their image and tan rather than getting stuck in when a game is in the balance. The physical strength is certainly there just a lack of will to use it.

You could never imagine caveman,mulgrew, O'Neill or any member of the old tyrone team being bullied all day off the ball like peter was.

No amount of silky skill or tactics will cover that up.

Freudian slip?? :P

Lol more like autocorrect changing peter canavans name.

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Some Tyrones really embarrassing themselves here.

Highlighting clear fouls is not embarrassing in the slightest. What is embarrassing is kerry people in the media talking about dark arts in a game that they won and in a game that they were the main offenders.

It shouldn't be too much to ask for a level playing field in terms of ref decisions.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 15, 2019, 10:04:45 AM »
It's ironic that this tyrone team are labelled as cycnical and nasty when in actual fact they are too nice. The Tyrone team of old would not have allowed peter harte to be treated that way.

Aside from the questions around skill level and side line tactics I think this tyrone team are too nice and soft. They need a bit more venom in them to stand up to teams when all this off the  ball stuff goes on.

My big concern is that majority of players bar a few care  more about their image and tan rather than getting stuck in when a game is in the balance. The physical strength is certainly there just a lack of will to use it.

You could never imagine caveman,mulgrew, O'Neill or any member of the old tyrone team being bullied all day off the ball like peter was.

No amount of silky skill or tactics will cover that up.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 15, 2019, 10:02:23 AM »
It's ironic that this tyrone team are labelled as cycnical and nasty when in actual fact they are too nice. The Tyrone team of old would not have allowed peter harte to be treated that way.

Aside from the questions around skill level and side line tactics I think this tyrone team are too nice and soft. They need a bit more venom in them to stand up to teams when all this off the  all stuff goes on. My big concern is that majority of players bar a few care  more about their image and tan rather than getting stuck in when a game is in the balance. The physical strength is certainly there just a lack of will to use it.

No amount of silky skill or tactics will cover that up.

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