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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 25, 2020, 04:18:31 PM »
Would Stevie O'Neill be a possibility for manager  ?

What the Tyrone club championship shows is that there is plenty of forward talent in Tyrone and a desire among club teams to play open attractive football. There’s also an evident lack of cynicism. This proves a point I have made on numerous occasions that the common denominator for putrid, defensive, cynical football is Harte. I have spoken to numerous people from around the country who were amazed at how enjoyable it was to watch the club football on display in Tyrone. Fair play to the club managers and players who gave everyone much entertainment. Collie Holmes would have to be in the frame because of the fitness levels Dungannon had and also the way he managed the squad and used the bench.

They were training all through the lockdown. That's not to downplay their achievements in any way. But none the less, it explains that.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 25, 2020, 01:01:59 PM »
They won’t be giving him anything, he’ll be taking any extension he sees fit. He will decide when he steps away.

Absolutely right he will never jump he will need to be pushed!

Is it true the players are pushing out the manager round your way?

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General discussion / Re: Great TV / Movie Characters
« on: September 23, 2020, 03:03:52 PM »
Tim Robbins played a fairly creepy character in a lesser known but excellent show Arlington Road, worth a watch if you like thrillers.

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General discussion / Re: Great TV / Movie Characters
« on: September 23, 2020, 01:38:12 PM »
Castor Troy - Face/Off

Which one was he? I always get the two mixed up

I nearly fell for that too.... ;)

Tommy DeVito - Goodfellas (Joe Pesci)

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 23, 2020, 12:43:04 PM »
True, but a large part of the problem in these type of situations is that Harte doesn't bother to pick up the phone himself. Gavin Devlin does that type of bridgebuilding.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 23, 2020, 12:35:00 PM »
He won't go back to Tyrone. Maybe best to look at other options.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: September 23, 2020, 12:18:20 PM »
What's our best midfield pairing now.

At the minute we have:

Kennedy
Kilpatrick
R Donnelly
McDonnell
C McCann
McClure

You have the likes of M Donnelly and Hampsey who have played there in the past but they are better utilised elsewhere, as McKenna will be when he returns.

Richie Donnelly is the best footballer of that lot but I do worry about his pace in a big match in Croke Park. Kennedy had an ok year last time around, it was his first year at intercounty football so you have to show patience with him. Kilpatrick is very inexperienced as well. I don't think McClure or McCann are up to holding down a regular place either and I'd put McDonnell in the same bracket there. Grugan had left the panel I think but he really underwhelmed in the opportunities he was given.

In light of this I think Harte should probably be looking to bring Paudie McNulty back into the squad.

That ship has sailed.

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General discussion / Re: Conspiracy Theories
« on: September 23, 2020, 12:17:29 PM »
Area 51....

So just what is going on in the Nevada Desert?

Aliens? Specialised aircraft?

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General discussion / Re: Great TV / Movie Characters
« on: September 23, 2020, 12:09:23 PM »
Castor Troy - Face/Off

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 22, 2020, 04:53:38 PM »
That's it, the former was the one I was thinking of.

Must just be Brocagh and Killyman then?

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General discussion / Re: Great TV / Movie Characters
« on: September 22, 2020, 04:38:34 PM »
Judge Doom - who framed roger rabbit. Scared the bejesus outa me when a young un.

Tim Curry as Pennywise the Dancing Clown done this for me.....

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 22, 2020, 04:26:33 PM »
Do Derrytresk/Brocagh and Killyman not combine at underage level?

I thought that was the Gael Naomh Pádraig club?

*EDIT, this is Clogher. I thought there was an almalgamation club involving those three though.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 22, 2020, 03:02:23 PM »
The leagues were for restructuring this season anyway back to the old model of four divisions. Not sure how or if that's happening with teams able to go up but nobody getting relegated next year.

Tribal nature of Tyrone football probably means it wouldn't really kick off, but the Newtonstewart / Dregish amalgamation looks like a sign of things to come in rural GAA.

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General discussion / Re: Conspiracy Theories
« on: September 22, 2020, 02:48:36 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/the-far-right-rises-its-growth-as-a-political-force-in-ireland-1.4358321

The far right always gathers pace when people are unhappy. History has shown that.

Ah now. How many far right movements worthy of the name have we ever had in Ireland?
The Blueshirts is the only one I can think of.
Dunno about that. Are you overlooking the Catholic church and the other mainstream churches? The Legion, of Mary and Opus Dei, for instance were/are more right wing than Oliver Cromwell.

Threat about to derail....can, worms...everywhere.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 22, 2020, 02:46:04 PM »
It creates super clubs surely, there are obvious pluses and negatives to it and every system. I love straight knockout in Tyrone. But at the same time, look at the boost it gives Kerry as a county getting those players exposure at that level.

Wouldn't it be great to see an West Tyrone team take on, say Errigal with players like Shane Cleary and maybe Jonny Lafferty on the same team? Junior Football in Tyrone is strong, they do have some really good players there but obviously depth is the issue.

It would require tweaking, how it would work in Tyrone I'm not sure just yet but before Covid, participation was a major issue. It might be something the powers that be need to look at down the line?

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