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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: September 17, 2019, 02:04:12 PM »
I've given up on RTE and GAA when Sky are broadcasting, better analysis, even if it is from a Tye-rone man. RTE complaining at lost revenues whilst sticking two fingers up at those in the North who have watched for years. Canning is the most useless trite commentator ever and not just with GAA.

Just googled Canning. Heís 68. Does he not have to retire same as Lyster?
Then you get the Marty Party in full drive then, careful what you wish for.

GAA Discussion / Re: Jim Gavin - The Greatest Manager in GAA history
« on: September 17, 2019, 09:36:18 AM »
Anyone remember the circumstances of Micko leaving Kerry.
Did he give plenty of notice or was it sudden?
Left after a winning or losing year?
Left in 89 after three successive Munster final defeats.

GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: September 16, 2019, 10:24:48 PM »
I began watching the final on RTE,  the audio balance between crowd noise and commentary was spot on but unfortunately the audio was out of sync with the video. I switched over to Sky where the crowd noise was muted in favour of the commentary. That sky commentary is irritating,the same old very predictable rehashed phrases are used to describe the play, the co commentary was  mogadon inspired. I'd say Daragh Maloney should be given the AI final  commentary for RTE.
Maloney was doing it for the radio on Saturday.

GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: September 11, 2019, 05:10:17 PM »

You again want to limit it to the games development money. I've told you numerous times now, the games development money has played a key role in all of this but it's only one part in the doping of Dublin. The money was freed up elsewhere and Dublin have spent it on many other areas including senior team preparation and everything this involves. This was enough to improve from losing to Westmeath and Laois to beating teams of that standard at the start. They were still getting bad beatings off teams outside Leinster but they slowly were closing the gap. It took a huge influx of players that came through the multi million euro system to push them to All Ireland contenders. This is not the first time I've had to clear things up for you and more than likely it won't be the last.

So before the games development funding Laois and Westmeath were beating Dublin?

What's the figures, Laois beat us twice in championship in about 40 years, Westmeath once? That's awesome analysis. I'm really glad you cleared that up. Now, there's probably not many that listen to you anyway, but you've removed all doubt about your gombeenism.

2004 - Westmeath beat Dublin
2003 - Laois beat Dublin

You have it now alright. That was a great win by Laois in 2003.
Their first Leinster since 1946. The money must have started coming in from 1947, eh?  Those dastardly Dubs.

Up until lately Dublin would average 4 to 5 Leinster titles a decade. That was the norm. The collective rest would come good every now and again a grab what was left over (naturally). The collective rest don't do this anymore. If you think that winning 14 of the last 15 titles can not be attributed to money, then what is the reason for the change? Why have Dublin become more dominant?

From Wikipedia:

The most successful team of each decade, judged by number of Leinster Senior Football Championship titles, is as follows:

1880s: 1 each for Kilkenny (1888) and Laois (1889)
1890s: 7 for Dublin (1891-92-94-96-97-98-99)
1900s: 6 for Dublin (1901-02-04-06-07-08)
1910s: 6 for Wexford (1913Ė14-15-16-17-18)
1920s: 5 for Dublin (1920-21-22-23-24)
1930s: 3 each for Kildare (1930-31-35), Dublin (1932-33-34) and Laois (1936-37-38)
1940s: 3 for Meath (1940-47-49)
1950s: 3 each for Louth (1950-53-57), Meath (1951-52-54) and Dublin (1955-58-59)
1960s: 3 each for Offaly (1960-61-69), Dublin (1962-63-65) and Meath (1964-66-67)
1970s: 6 for Dublin (1974-75-76-77-78-79)
1980s: 4 for Dublin (1983-84-85-89)
1990s: 4 each for Meath (1990-91-96-99) and Dublin (1992-93-94-95)
2000s: 6 for Dublin (2002-05-06-07-08-09)
2010s: 9 for Dublin (2011-12-13-14-15-16-17-18-19)

Pretty stark that.

Ball hopper, no Colm OíNeill?

I canít recall John Small getting red last year.
Yes O'Neill was sent off in 1990.

GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 21, 2019, 01:57:16 PM »
2017. Best performance I've seen by a losing team. Too many first half wides. 2013 went through my head at half time.

I said it at ht to a neighbour of mine , ala 2013. We needed to be further ahead and should of been.

We probably won't see Mayo win it now but I don't believe the potential is not there to win all irelands . I don't believe the vision is there nor the culture . If you can't get men like young Irwin and o donoghue lad from belmullet to behave and buckle down , ''tis a bad sign on your leaders . Cathal Horan is another . Something very wrong and always has been in Mayo when you can't maximise on your elite players , Mayo has too small a pick to let any talent slip through .

You only have to observe some of the commentary over on the wj blog to understand men that have a say in Mayo football some are not even football men , they haven't a footing clue .
You can't be serious.

They don't help themselves in so many ways but at the same time you'd feel a bit sorry for the people who have to put the show together, and end up with the two most familiar final pairings possible. Not much nuggets to be sourced that weren't previously done.

GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland Football Final Tickets
« on: August 12, 2019, 02:11:00 PM »
Iím not even sure i would go to this final even if I was given a free ticket, never mind paying Ä90 for one.

Iím in two minds if Iíll even watch it live, and Iíve never missed watching (or attending) a final since 1985.
Same, Spurs-Arsenal is on at 4 and though I'd not have ever considered the possibility of watching soccer over a major football game, especially the final, then I might be switching over especially if the first half confirms the inevitable.

Ä90 is extortion for a ticket too.

GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: August 11, 2019, 06:38:25 PM »
So if Leitrim players all get free cars and dinners, jobs in Carrick, a lorry load of backroom staff (Jim Gavins word) their 3,500 registered GAA players will turnout a 25 as good as the best of Dublins 39,000?
Only 1 team can win says he.
Yes but when it's the same team every year...
GAA you've got a problem

What has cars and dinners got to do with it? Plus backroom staff - I heard Derry had about 14 or 15 and they're in Div. 4.

Nobody was complaining about Dublin'spopulation 15 years ago - it was never mentioned.  Now, it's an issue as they are winning.

If you translate this to club level for example, in Galway, are people complaining because Corofin are winning the championship? - is their population bigger than clubs in other parts of Galway? No.  Have they more money than other clubs in Galway? No.
By all accounts they have a huge catchment area so it's conceivable that they have a bigger population than most, not compared to the city or town clubs but to the rest, and the penetration would be far greater than in the urban areas as it almost always is.

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 22, 2019, 04:37:13 PM »
Would Dublin not be fairly half way/neutral for Tyrone/Cork and Kerry/Donegal? It would have been a logical enough choice for Mayo Meath too given a lot of Mayo people are based in Dublin. The Tyrone Cork game would have attracted a poor crowd wherever it was played. And I don't think the other two games I mentioned would have got as many people if played as two stand alone games somewhere outside Croke Park.
An awful lot more of them are based in Mayo though. I know the outlook of those running the country is pretty much Dublin-centric, but surely that's taking it a bit far that we go putting on games in Dublin for the convenience of the relatively small number of ex-pats based there?

GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 22, 2019, 12:38:33 PM »
Why is this game being played?
You can't not play the game even though the result won't affect the league table. If a teams win the league in ANY sport before the season finishes do they just cancel all the remaining matches as the title has been won reagardless?
Most of those leagues will still have something riding on them, be it relegation issues or prize money (Premier League etc.) or draft placings and so on. Granted in the likes of the World Cup you might get this scenario but then the tickets for those games would have been long since sold and possibly sold out, so there's going to be a large crowd at it even if there's nothing to play for in reality. That's not exactly going to be an issue in Cork on Saturday week.

GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: July 21, 2019, 05:33:49 PM »
Losing faith with RTE myself, Brolly becoming very hard to listen to. Dick Clerkin is awful on Sky and the Senan Connell role always seems a bit superfluous to me, he must be there for eye candy for the ladies or something.

Brolly is impossible to listen to. RTE need a big clearout.

Yeah, Senan Connell, could never figure that one out myself.

Senan Connell spent much of the pre-match from Hyde park last week telling us that the 45metre line in the hyde was nearer the goal than  the 45 in croke park! ::)

Maybe the groundman in croke park has bigger steps!  :P
You may think that about Senan, but thatís actually one of his smarter comments, thatís why he kept repeating it. Senan acts out the stage Dub role with an insane joviality. 
Someone in Sky loves him.
Think I recall that the guy who became producer of Sky's GAA coverage was the same guy who did it for TV3, and Connell was on that too. That may be something to do with it.

General discussion / Re: The Cricket thread
« on: July 17, 2019, 01:06:38 PM »
Was delighted Eoin Morgan captained England to the cricket World Cup. He has been instrumental in their transformation from a ho-hum cautious conservative side to the best in the one day game. He seems a really sound bloke as evidenced by his handling of an idiotic question afterwards so good luck to him. Dismissing cricket as an "English game" as many do is shortsighted. It's superb entertainment once you get waht's going on.
Aye, their disastrous WC campaign in 2015 was a major wake-up call for them, and they appear to have invested serious time and effort into developing the one day setup since then, and it has paid off.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ros away to Dublin 20th July 2019
« on: July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM »
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.
I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no Ä2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

GAA Discussion / Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« on: July 11, 2019, 11:09:28 AM »
And Ä20 on the terrace, Ä25 every where else  >:(
Laous spoiled the party in the hurley stuff though.
Meanwhile Cork have to travel to Croke Park Saturday, Sunday and the following Saturday.
And if the hurlers beat Kilkenny the Saturday after that too.

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