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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 23, 2020, 04:27:28 PM »
What ever happened to Syferus? he was a decent buddy, good at debating, reasoning and so on
Whatever you say.
He's destroying stolen-sheep these days with non stop diatribes against the GAA for causing Covid outbreaks , for playing games in the middle of "a century defining pandemic".
And he now tells us that Armagh hasn't been in Ireland since 1921.

Where at?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: October 23, 2020, 04:08:18 PM »
To get herd immunity - the masses have to get it!
Isn't that what you want?

Quote where I said that - you are a total liar.

Giant red font!! Boys a boys this place is going off the rail these days. Becoming more and more like the cesspit that is twitter everyday.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: October 23, 2020, 02:42:37 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/23/uk-presses-for-use-of-faster-passport-gates-at-eu-airports-post-brexit

They couldn't wait to get rid of the EU passports and start using their own, but still want the benefits of the former. You couldn't make these guys up!

This is class.

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Do all the people here who voted yes get their annual flu jab?

You only get the flu jab if you fall into a certain category I think

Anyone can get it but they some might get it for free whereas others pay. I'm open to correction on this.

Now, back to the questions. Those who voted yes and who seem to pushing their views that others should be getting a Covid vaccine when (more likely if) it comes on stream, do you get your annual flu jab?

Yes or no.

Yes. I got it few weeks ago. I got the quadrivalent version because I'm under 65. I encourage everyone who's eligible to do the same.

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Just wondering how many people get polio nowadays?
And wondering how many got before vaccinations started (c1960?).
The 1956 All Irelands were delayed because of a polio outbreak in Cork City that year.

PS God be with the days when we thought Syferus was the worst clown ever on GAAboard.
He was only a novice compared to the 2 we have now.

If anybody has an ‘informed’ opinion on how smallpox was eradicated that would be great as well...

Or Tetanus, Measles, Rubella, Pneumococcal, Pertussis,  Diphtheria... The list goes on.

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Most of the antivax brigade will be fine with homeopathic remedies

Or mega dosing with vitamin C.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: October 23, 2020, 08:36:37 AM »
I see Biden done a Poots and tried to say the pandemic is worse in red states.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: October 23, 2020, 12:15:56 AM »
Can the debate tonight be watched in the 6?

BBC news channel, on freevew, sky etc. and the iplayer

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If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.
The anti-vaccine ideology is overwhelmingly pushed by those with right-wing "libertarian" sympathies

Anti-vaccine ideology has deeply infected mainstream right-wing politics and media

There is no such similar problem on the broad left

Right-wing propaganda and disinformation is one of the central problems of our time, it is a virulent cancer

Again, there is no such similar problem on the broad left

Look at the New Zealand election

Why did that country overwhelmingly opt for sensible social democratic government rather than the screaming yahoos that rule the roost in the US, UK and increasingly Australia?

Because Murdoch media is not a factor

We are far from perfect in this country but Murdoch media is not a factor here either - unfortunately we do have some other outlets and minor demagogues here to take up the slack of disinformation and we are also quite influenced by what's happening in the UK and US

Plenty on the left too.
Heres governor of Vermont Democratic candidate David Zuckerman. His voting history makes for interesting reading....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/21/anti-vaccine-coronavirus-137446
You can scour the internet for individuals if you like in an effort to create a false equivalence but isolated individuals and cranks do not make a systemic problem

Science denial and fact rejection are now intrinsic parts of the international right-wing

That is very far from the case on the broad left

False equivalence is also a systemic right-wing problem

I didnt have to scour. Hes on the ballot in Vermont in November. He's a left wing democrat. And he's not alone.

San Francisco kids are well below the required vaccinated level (95%) for herd immunity. San Fran of course. Being a city that *checks notes*  Hillary won 84.5% of the vote in 2016.

There are loons in all political walks of life.
But again, there are a hell of a lot more in right-wing politics

Science denial, fact rejection and a fantasy world of la la is the defining characteristic of right-wing politics

It's a freak show

Of course as a Trump supporter you would deny this because you are one of the people who have been brainwashed

Noam Chomsky quite rightly says the Republican party is the most dangerous organisation in the world - in human history

Even the Nazis didn't plan to incinerate the planet

I'm not a Trump supporter. I just have my reservations with the modern Democrat party.

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If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.
The anti-vaccine ideology is overwhelmingly pushed by those with right-wing "libertarian" sympathies

Anti-vaccine ideology has deeply infected mainstream right-wing politics and media

There is no such similar problem on the broad left

Right-wing propaganda and disinformation is one of the central problems of our time, it is a virulent cancer

Again, there is no such similar problem on the broad left

Look at the New Zealand election

Why did that country overwhelmingly opt for sensible social democratic government rather than the screaming yahoos that rule the roost in the US, UK and increasingly Australia?

Because Murdoch media is not a factor

We are far from perfect in this country but Murdoch media is not a factor here either - unfortunately we do have some other outlets and minor demagogues here to take up the slack of disinformation and we are also quite influenced by what's happening in the UK and US

Plenty on the left too.
Heres governor of Vermont Democratic candidate David Zuckerman. His voting history makes for interesting reading....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/21/anti-vaccine-coronavirus-137446
You can scour the internet for individuals if you like in an effort to create a false equivalence but isolated individuals and cranks do not make a systemic problem

Science denial and fact rejection are now intrinsic parts of the international right-wing

That is very far from the case on the broad left

False equivalence is also a systemic right-wing problem

I didnt have to scour. Hes on the ballot in Vermont in November. He's a left wing democrat. And he's not alone.

San Francisco kids are well below the required vaccinated level (95%) for herd immunity. San Fran of course. Being a city that *checks notes*  Hillary won 84.5% of the vote in 2016.

There are loons in all political walks of life.

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For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it’ll have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

Maybe do some research on vaccines in our history and some of the long term health problems they can be attributed to.

I'll take my chances without it. If I catch the virus I will look after myself and following the quarantine procedures.

Do you get the flu vaccine annually?

Incredibly selfish attitude to take.

I value my own health, if that's deemed as selfish then so be it.

Look at the flu vaccine in South Korea as a recent example.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/doctors-in-south-korea-call-for-flu-vaccinations-to-be-paused-after-25-deaths

Did you even read that article? It disproves your point.

"Authorities say programme will continue after finding no direct links between the deaths and the vaccines"

You've just read the headline and couldn't get it posted quick enough.

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If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.
The anti-vaccine ideology is overwhelmingly pushed by those with right-wing "libertarian" sympathies

Anti-vaccine ideology has deeply infected mainstream right-wing politics and media

There is no such similar problem on the broad left

Right-wing propaganda and disinformation is one of the central problems of our time, it is a virulent cancer

Again, there is no such similar problem on the broad left

Look at the New Zealand election

Why did that country overwhelmingly opt for sensible social democratic government rather than the screaming yahoos that rule the roost in the US, UK and increasingly Australia?

Because Murdoch media is not a factor

We are far from perfect in this country but Murdoch media is not a factor here either - unfortunately we do have some other outlets and minor demagogues here to take up the slack of disinformation and we are also quite influenced by what's happening in the UK and US

Plenty on the left too.
Heres governor of Vermont Democratic candidate David Zuckerman. His voting history makes for interesting reading....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/21/anti-vaccine-coronavirus-137446

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For a vaccine to be effective at stopping community transmission , it’ll have to be taken by the majority of the population , no ?

I'm alright though Jack, I'm not in an at-risk demographic

Maybe do some research on vaccines in our history and some of the long term health problems they can be attributed to.

I'll take my chances without it. If I catch the virus I will look after myself and following the quarantine procedures.

Do you get the flu vaccine annually?

Incredibly selfish attitude to take.

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The perverse logic of this is incredible but not unsurprising

Covid - The Disease
Don't know the long term consequences
Unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely aid the spread of the disease if I get it, potentially causing the death of others
"HAPPY ENOUGH WITH THAT, CARRY ON REGARDLESS, BRING IT ON"

Covid - The Vaccine
Don't know the long term consequences
VERY unlikely to kill me in the short term
Will most likely help stop the spread of the disease, potentially saving the lives of others
"FCUK THAT SHIT, DON'T WANT IT ANYWHERE NEAR ME"

How, in the name of sweet fcuk does anyone with a brain arrive at this kind of decision?

Propaganda and choosing what they want to believe.

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If a vaccine is approved by the EU I'll be taking it.

Anybody with half a brain will do likewise.

You have to wonder how it is even a debate
Three words: Right wing propaganda

Plenty of wing nuts on the left advocating for no vaccines too, take that crap to the US politics thread.

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