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GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
« on: July 16, 2019, 11:49:08 PM »
Were the "Super 8s" introduced on a 2-3 year trial basis or is it a permanent feature ?

If favourites Dublin and Tyrone win next weekend it would obviously make Cork-Roscommon in Round 3 meaningless.
A dead rubber match, should it arise, surely serves no purpose.
Players won't want to go through the motions and supporters should not have their loyalty tested given the costs associated with supporting your county.

Laois / Re: 2019 All-Ireland Senior Hurling Championship
« on: July 15, 2019, 10:55:43 AM »
Well said blueandwhite !

Laois / Re: Second tier football championship
« on: July 11, 2019, 10:14:07 PM »
A second tier is doomed to failure in same way as All-Ireland B and Tommy Murphy Cup failed
- whatever about maximising player committment under present system there will be little appetite amongst many players for a second rate competition
- the better coaches will not be attracted to second tier teams
- supporters will vote with their feet, e.g. Laois v Offaly in second tier would have no appeal.

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: July 04, 2019, 10:48:08 AM »
blewuporstuffed's proposed system above is the best I have seen.
This would be an excellent solution.

GAA Discussion / Re: Cork V Laois - Round 4 Qualifier
« on: July 03, 2019, 09:19:26 PM »

So to qualify the Super 8s should be about the best 8 or as close as possible but Monday's ensured that it's not, Laois I think will be there on merit in the context of draw but the draw does not reflect on the meritocracy of the league or the best 8 teams in the country.

Martin Breheny makes the same case in today’s Indo – “Qualification system not delivering real Super 8''.
If that is what is required then simply allow only NFL Division 1 teams to play Super 8s !

The Super 8s are a cumbersome bolt-on to the AI Series with the obvious aim of generating revenue.

Whilst the system of Provincials, Qualifiers and AI-Series prior to Super 8s had faults nevertheless the AI Quarter-Final weekend was widely anticipated by supporters. Over the years we had Fermanagh, Tipperary and Wexford qualify for All-Ireland Semi-Finals.
The introduction Super 8s was a nonsensical idea in my opinion.

GAA Discussion / Re: Cork V Laois - Round 4 Qualifier
« on: July 03, 2019, 01:14:55 AM »
Hey Rossfan - given that you seem to linger around this forum day and night do you not realise that Cork/Laois are in your group ?

If by chance we meet you in the 3rd round of Super 8s here's a reminder of your last visit to Portlaoise :

GAA Discussion / Re: Cork V Laois - Round 4 Qualifier
« on: July 03, 2019, 12:54:10 AM »
John Sugrue has done a very good job since taking over Laois last year - successive promotions from Divisions 4 & 3 to Division 2 next year. Last 12 last year as Leinster finalists and last 12 this year via qualifiers.

We had just under 10,000 in attendance in O’Moore Park last Saturday – a beautiful Summer’s evening and throw-in delayed by 10 minutes because of congestion at the turnstiles. Offaly brought very good support as it does seem they are finally back on an upward curve under John Maughan after years in the doldrums. Laois had a good result up in Derry and Laois-Offaly rivalry whetted the appetite for a good contest.

Now, if Laois and Offaly were to meet in a 2nd Tier competition you would be lucky to have 500 in attendance. There would simply be no appetite for it among players and supporters.

One of our Lilywhite neighbours on this forum, Dinny Breen, tells us that "“That draw has killed the Super 8 as spectacle” - it's seemingly a widely held opinion that "lesser" teams such as Laois have no place in the Super 8s. Is the All-Ireland Championship just about TV ratings ?

GAA Discussion / Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« on: July 01, 2019, 12:19:47 AM »
There is an obvious need for Tiers in the hurling championship – top tier hurling is limited to a geographical area – Munster, South Leinster and outposts in the west (Galway) and in the north (Antrim).  Club and county teams outside the hurling strongholds can never attain the skills to match those of teams within the hurling strongholds. This argument does NOT hold for Gaelic Football.

It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that current Division 4 teams such as Antrim and Wicklow could compete at the top level of intercounty football. It would obviously take some time and need a lot of things to fall into place – progress at underage, good management structure, player commitment etc. Both counties have produced All-Ireland Club Champions – St Galls and Baltinglass.

In my opinion the plan to introduce a 2nd Tier in the All-Ireland Football Championship is a big mistake and a backward step. Anybody that thinks that it won’t mirror the failure of the All-Ireland B Football Championship (1990s) and The Tommy Murphy Cup (2000s) is deluding themselves – try looking up the Roll of Honour for these competitions. With the best will in the world you will never get 100% commitment for a 2nd Tier All-Ireland Football Championship – a significant element of players and supporters simply do not have the appetite for it.

What we have now and what can be improved upon is a National Football League with 4 Divisions/Tiers based on merit. Play the NFL in Spring & early Summer feeding into “Super 8s”. Let the All-Ireland Championship revert to straight knockout like before the backdoor was introduced.
It was interesting that on tonight’s Sunday Game there was no analysis on one of the qualifier matches – that between Division 3 teams Laois and Offaly. 

Laois / Re: Laois - Bits & Pieces
« on: June 30, 2019, 11:11:13 PM »
Hi Mossy,


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GAAGO is a subscription based sports channel from RTÉ and the GAA - aimed at an international market and at the Irish diaspora around the world.
We want to find a hurling superfan and a football superfan living outside Ireland.

We have two prizes:
1.   One return flight home from anywhere in the world -  and two tickets for the All Ireland Hurling final
2.   One return flight home from anywhere in the world –  and two tickets for the All Ireland Football final

Laois / Re: 2019 U20 Football Development League
« on: June 26, 2019, 12:51:18 AM »
Listened to the game on - didn't sound good when Kildare went 0-3 to 0-0 in front and later 0-8 to 0-4.
Heart-warming performance from Laois in 2nd half - well done lads.

Fair play to Billy O'Loughlin who had his critics after his appointment last year.
I'm reading that next week's game against Westmeath is a Leinster quarter-final so it's early days yet.

Laois / Re: 2019 All Ireland Football Qualifiers
« on: June 25, 2019, 04:35:25 PM »
And I call bullshit on that once again.

Bullshit on what this time?

Don, you seem to have become the self appointed anonymous 'bullshit caller'  and insult-warrior on the board. I'm betting you are not half the big man or big mouth in real life.

Blueandwhite1 – the bible saying “Cast not pearls before swine” comes to mind.
I’m referring to the most interesting insight you shared on ancient Leix above – I don’t reckon Don has any interest in our cultural heritage but I’m sure he will gracefully (?) inform us otherwise.

Anyway back to the qualifiers – both sides have a link with the 2003 draw and replay. Niall McNamee made his debut with Offaly and Ross Munnelly was in his first season with Laois.

Laois / Re: 2019 All Ireland Football Qualifiers
« on: June 25, 2019, 09:08:37 AM »
Why do Offaly people call Laois Leix....... Is it meant to be a derogatory term? It really is kind of pathetic if thats the case.

This topic was covered on a different thread last December :


I must say, you do seem to enjoy trying to rile people! Again, I ask - why?
Our county’s name is Laois. I asked nicely, there was no attempt to rile you or anyone.

Like it or not the name Leix is part of our heritage and was in common use up the 1960s (as was Maryborough).
The great Laois team of the 1930s would have been called Leix at the time.
When Laois GAA people refer to our county as Leix, e.g. C'mon Leix, you can take it that they are using it as a term of affection.
Would you shout out "Cmon Maryborough"?

Would you shout out "Cmon the Queens County"?

Its an anglacised version of our heritage. We threw the f**kers off, throw off their terminology as well if you can.

Legally, the area we call Laois from a GAA perspective, is still Queen's county! Anyone who buys or sells land or a house will see that in the legal paperwork. The ancient Loigis or Leix is not the county we have today. Leix was in the east and north. Ossory was in the south and West and contained towns like Rathdowney, Durrow, Borris-in-Ossory. Queens county unites them. However, many older people from inside and outside the county who talk about hurling still call it Leix.

GAA Discussion / Re: Offaly v Leix Round 3 Qualifier
« on: June 24, 2019, 02:07:08 PM »
Will Jairzinho be there to support Laois next Saturday ?

GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Armagh- Round 3 Qualifier
« on: June 24, 2019, 01:55:43 PM »
Omagh - Newbridge :  231 km
Armagh - Castlebar  :  223 km

Laois / Re: 2019 All Ireland Football Qualifiers
« on: June 24, 2019, 10:07:34 AM »
This is a dangerous banana skin for Laois.
NFL 16-March   Offaly 0-15  Laois 2-12
Since then Offaly have Niall McNamee back in their ranks.
They were very unlucky to lose some close games in the league which kept them out of the promotion hunt.
As they showed against Meath they are a very capable side.
The local derby factor also means that all previous form can go out the window.
Laois might be slight favourites but Offaly will throw the kitchen sink at us.

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