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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: Today at 11:29:57 AM »
You've defended the GDA's here before and your experience seems to be at odds with what a lot of club/schools are saying.

Croke Park is aware that there's an issue here,It will be interesting to see what the review has to say also.

I wouldn't call it defending anyone. I don't really know any of them personally but have dealt with them during my time with our underage teams. I just have this nagging doubt that a lot of people who are giving out aren't armed with the full facts. As others have said maybe their workload and roster needs to be arranged a bit better but I couldn't for one second doubt the huge amount of hours they put in. Seems like a bit of a witch hunt.

How do you know about Croke Park? You must be very high up and well in. You seem to know everything.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: Today at 10:31:56 AM »
Can't see how people are being held up 15-20h per week with paperwork unless it's from the CB. I worked as an RDO with the FAI and spent some time training for role in Belgium and Denmark and never had much more than 2-3h a week to do in office. Only time we got issues was when teams or venues  changed suddenly. We had a good bit of paper work at the start of the season yeah with kids forms containin personalinfo needing to be logged, garda vetting, consent forms etc but that all had to be done before the first session for us. The schools do present an issue with some teachers not wanting kids out at various time with the most anyone will do is 3 primary school sessions in a day (9-30-10-30, 11-12 12-1) after lunch primary schools were reluctant to let you in.  Then we would go home and generally take 2-3 club sessions per night in one club with differnt age groups. Training in schools can be disasterours especially small schools where you might have to take one class room that has from u from ages 7-11  it's pointless. Saturday was designated to training and upsklling club coachs and volunteers in the mornings and high potential sessions in the evening. I don't know what the gaa is at holding coach's up with paperwork.

The reality is that the Gaa isn't holding up GDA's with paperwork.

It's very illuminating to see the workloads of GDA's in other counties,compared to what's happening here.

You seem to know a lot about what's in the Strategic Review. You're hardly on the committee or anything??????

I deal a lot with one of the GDAs and I met him at the U21 final on Sunday. I asked him about the stuff raised here. He said that he has 14 Primary Schools. He has just finished a 6 week block in half of them and has now started a 6 week block in the other half. Seemingly, not all schools take the coaching offered. He has 12 Primary School Coaching sessions this week, 2 Secondary School Sessions, an Award One course on Wednesday night, Laois U13 training on Tuesday night, U14 and U15 Squad Athletic Program on Thursday night and a Staff training course on Monday. He said he had 8/10 hours paperwork on top of that because this time of the year is when all reports are done up. On top of that he was expected (not part of his hours) to be at the U13 final on Saturday and the U21 final on Sunday. A total of about 52 hours. I joked back to him, "Do you ever get time off?". He smiled back "An odd time". Seems he and 2 of the other GDAs didn't get to take all their holidays last year either as well as not being able to take any holidays during the summer on account of Summer Camps. I have to say I found all this amazing and certainly an eye opener.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: October 23, 2017, 02:57:00 PM »
The finals of the Laois U13 Competitions are that weekend.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: October 09, 2017, 04:26:13 PM »
200k seems like a huge sum. Are you sure that's correct? Somebody mentioned on a previous thread that they are on 28k and that their wages are half funded by Leinster Council. How many GDAs are there?, 4? If so the figure is about 56k a year. 28k is not a huge salary by any means. There are far bigger problems for clubs right now, like recruiting volunteers and the cost of everything from insurance, hurling balls, training equipment and facilities etc. In our club it's impossible to get anyone involved. Nobody has time. The same few of us are left to do everything. And we're not so bad, we've been very successful underage in recent years. They simply drop them at the gate and let you babysit them. I would like to see the Strategic Review give clubs some really good advice on how to recruit volunteers and on finance. Also, the games program needs to be a lot better. With soccer and rugby the children (and more importantly the parents) know they have a consistent program of game and exactly when the games are on. The county board needs to copy that, not make it up as they go along.

There's 5 GDA's and when you add in such things as expenses and employers PRSI,Id say the annual spend wouldn't be too far off 200k p.a

I don't know what issue you have with the games program particularly at juvenile and underage,it's laid out at the start of the year in the games book and by and large is adhered to.

Club officials get this book around March every year and every fixture for the year ahead is laid out in it,It's then up to the club to communicate with the parents.

There's many things wrong with the website,the fixtures section isn't one of them.

Is there 5, I thought it was 4. Fair enough add in the expenses but I still can't see how you would get to anywhere near 200k. Five times 14k plus say 20k in expenses comes to 90k. Are you including the full time secretary's wages in your figure? I'm mainly involved in the hurling side of things in my club and I have to say the GDAs are very good to us in terms of coaching courses, club visits and coaching in the local school. We try to get as many people as possible to go to these courses but as I said earlier nobody is willing to give up the time. I would love to get more help and direction in this area. A lot of our players have also benefited greatly from the coaching and games they get with the Setanta program and the Development Squads.

The fixture booklet is fine. It's the non-adherence to it, postponements and the lack of games at certain age groups that drives me mad. Games get called off for the flimsiest of reasons.

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Laois / Re: Strategic Review of Gaelic Games in Laois 2017
« on: October 09, 2017, 02:38:36 PM »
200k seems like a huge sum. Are you sure that's correct? Somebody mentioned on a previous thread that they are on 28k and that their wages are half funded by Leinster Council. How many GDAs are there?, 4? If so the figure is about 56k a year. 28k is not a huge salary by any means. There are far bigger problems for clubs right now, like recruiting volunteers and the cost of everything from insurance, hurling balls, training equipment and facilities etc. In our club it's impossible to get anyone involved. Nobody has time. The same few of us are left to do everything. And we're not so bad, we've been very successful underage in recent years. They simply drop them at the gate and let you babysit them. I would like to see the Strategic Review give clubs some really good advice on how to recruit volunteers and on finance. Also, the games program needs to be a lot better. With soccer and rugby the children (and more importantly the parents) know they have a consistent program of game and exactly when the games are on. The county board needs to copy that, not make it up as they go along.

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Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: September 25, 2017, 04:01:19 PM »
Clough/Ballacolla seem to think they were done out of a certain point in the first half. A big call if true seeing that they were only beaten by a point.

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Laois / Re: Laois Intermediate Football Championship 2017
« on: July 31, 2017, 10:25:39 PM »
Couldnt understand kevin coming on ,game was already won at that stage.whats story with rogers is ge finished with seniors again

Rogers was finished years ago.
How many years ago? He has 10 or 11 senior medals!!

Anyone from Portlaoise could have 10/11 medals they were so strong. He was finished as a decent footballer a long time ago. Total waste of good talent.

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Laois / Re: Laois Intermediate Football Championship 2017
« on: July 31, 2017, 04:47:26 PM »
Couldnt understand kevin coming on ,game was already won at that stage.whats story with rogers is ge finished with seniors again

Rogers was finished years ago.

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Laois / Re: Newspaper Items
« on: July 28, 2017, 07:01:32 PM »
That may be so but are they getting the support they need.
Well they are getting well paid. I'd love to know if the GDAs have achieved the highest coaching qualification  required . I have my doubts

How much are they on?

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Laois / Re: Club Hurling
« on: July 17, 2017, 04:55:53 PM »
Played junior final sunday, junior championship last night, have football championship tomorrow night, why they culdnt play it a different date i dont know, between this courtwood not being promoted and the ballypickas-mountmellick fiasco its a bad look

I Can't understand why a hurling club would give a walkover in a county hurling final yet play all manner of oul football matches the same week. Makes no sense.

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Laois / Re: Qualifiers.
« on: July 05, 2017, 12:36:16 PM »
talk all ye  want whats happening on the ground is not good enough ,their was laois u 16 training tonight only ten turned up ,after beating louth well  and 27 at match ,out of ten only two or three will get a game saturday ,very rarely see manager at training only matchs,coachs always their,this is next years minor team,they know they dont have to train to get a game ,is all failing apart at senior & underage

Would the U16 squad not be short a good few lads who are up with the U17s?

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Laois / Re: Saturday July 1st 2017 - Football, Hurling or both?
« on: June 27, 2017, 05:01:35 PM »
In the car at 4.45pm. Parked up in Dublin at 6.30pm at the latest (6.15pm I'd say). No problem

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Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: June 15, 2017, 01:31:31 PM »
We are in the Munster group with Tipp,Lk and the losers of Cork/Waterford,provided we overcome Carlow

We can be drawn against
Dublin
Westmeath
Kk
Losers of Offaly/Galway

First name drawn has home advantage,Draw next Monday morning on Morning Ireland

First drawn doesn't have home advantage as the teams are in 2 separate pots.


From the GAA website

"The first team drawn out will be given home advantage in most circumstances."

Bowl 1: Tipperary, Limerick, loser of Cork/Waterford, winner of Laois v Carlow playoff
Bowl 2: Kilkenny, Dublin, Westmeath, loser of Galway/Offaly.
A team is taken from both bowls and placed in a third bowl and the first team out of that bowl will have home advantage.

Draw can't take place until 26 June as if Laois win playoff, they can't draw Westmeath as they have already met but Carlow can play Westmeath if they beat Laois.

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Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
« on: June 14, 2017, 04:25:50 PM »
We are in the Munster group with Tipp,Lk and the losers of Cork/Waterford,provided we overcome Carlow

We can be drawn against
Dublin
Westmeath
Kk
Losers of Offaly/Galway

First name drawn has home advantage,Draw next Monday morning on Morning Ireland

First drawn doesn't have home advantage as the teams are in 2 separate pots.

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Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: May 29, 2017, 04:10:43 PM »
More encouraging news on Laois GAA twitter.

The Laois U15 squad who played Tipp. Game 1 Tipp 3-10 Laois 1-09. Game 2 Laois 3-16 Tipp 4-11. Thanks @TipperaryGAA

Really? From what I can see they lost the first game and then barely won the second. Hardly anything to dream of winning all irelands

Beating Tipp is never to be sneezed at. Our seniors are a long way off that mark so it's good to see the underage players competing with the top counties.

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