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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: April 10, 2020, 03:27:57 PM »
Do 8 lads with white shirts, ties, sun glasses and black gloves usually just turn up at funerals in the North and just happen to walk in single file each side of the hearse?

You got there before me. Funnily enough, they seem to be the only ones who might be marching - sorry, walking - two metres apart.

Criticism aimed at SF here a bit misplaced. This man was an ex-SF councillor. Some of those boys in white shirts wouldnít be big fans of SF. Not nowadays anyway.

And they were wearing gloves as well, very responsible.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: February 27, 2020, 12:57:58 PM »
Imagine leaving a club because you wanted to play D1 football only to be selected for the thirds and having to play against your first club. Scunndered for them.

who are the sly digs aimed at? no call for it.

My Guess its McGahan - Coalisland transferred him in from Killyman - was a great transfer for them as they wouldn't have won 2010 championship without him. Killyman man ended the 20 year wait for them.

They wudnt have won 2018 without him either, destroyed KC from the edge of the square and scored the crucial goal!!

Think this is aimed at a couple of brackaville lads who haven't set the world alight at coalisland!

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: February 21, 2020, 08:09:46 AM »
I suppose whats a championship draw without an early season prediction.

Senior Championship First Round

Clonoe v Coalisland

Moy v Derrylaughan

Galbally v Trillick

Killyclogher v Carrickmore

Loughmacrory v Dungannon

Ardboe v Donaghmore

Errigal Ciaran v Pomeroy

Omagh v Dromore

Hard to beat an early prediction.

Semi finals:
Coalisland v Trillick
Errigal v Dungannon

With a repeat of last year's final.

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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: February 18, 2020, 08:14:15 AM »
If anybody needs any reminding why a large proportion of the population still have an issue with sinn fein being involved in government then they should watch Lost Lives which was on BBC1NI last night.

Lazy analysis, did the IRA kill innocent people, undoubtedly, but then look at the history of the NI state. When did the violence and insurrection of the '20's become acceptable. There is blood on many hands including Unionist/loyalist, Republicans and the British State. The Irish state could also be arguably guilty of the sin of omission, and that is before we get into the scandal and corruption. So whilst SF undoubtedly have a past they can only be part of the future of this island. It was exclusionary politics that led to partition and all that followed. Memories have a habit of being selective.

And this is why I tend not to comment on political threads....the point I am making is that many people in the south of a certain age will undoubtedly feel uneasy in voting for SF or seeing them in govt given their links to those awful awful days not that long ago. For some that cannot be forgotten or forgiven.

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General discussion / Re: 26 County General Election 2020
« on: February 17, 2020, 09:54:03 AM »
If anybody needs any reminding why a large proportion of the population still have an issue with sinn fein being involved in government then they should watch Lost Lives which was on BBC1NI last night.

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 - 2020
« on: February 11, 2020, 08:09:37 AM »
jamie played football there last summer.
simply hasnt transferred back and is training with the county
there is no backer..

So he isn't in London, hasn't transferred back to Cross and is playing for county? Something about that doesn't sit right with me. Not affiliated to a club but playing for county. It's just another example of the professionalism that we've seen so clearly with McShane. Is he working at home again?

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 - 2020
« on: February 10, 2020, 03:48:29 PM »
May have missed this elsewhere but am I right in thinking Jamie Clarke is with a London club this year? Is he flying back weekends? What's he doing over there?
Is an Armagh backer footing the bill for this?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 24, 2020, 02:19:36 PM »
Carmen had a thirds team circa 7-8 years ago. From what i recall they were the very poor and didn't last more than 1 or 2 seasons.

On the reserve proposals in general, my first thought was that the change to monday night etc was a great idea, something had to change but thinking more about it, it maybe isn't the answer.
In practical terms you could have 7-8 reserves on the senior bench on sunday, some getting game time, some not. then asked to turn up for reserve match monday night, possibly away from home (albeit not the other side of the county if it's regional leagues), then expected to train or else told not to train with seniors on tuesday and then train again on thur/fri. In reality that leaves a fair amount of your clubs bog standard players having to make a serious commitment in terms of time and dedication and leaves senior training on tuesday down to bare squad of 15-18 not including injuries or other reasons. You'd in many cases be asking students to come down the road an extra night on a monday to play or older family men an extra night out of the house.

Something certainly needs done but i think more thought needs to go into it. Reserve football is dying and maybe guaranteed games will help make it better. Like there's absolutely no reason reserve league and championship couldn't be run off every week and wrapped up for end of summer. No need to postpone reserve football for county matches and on those weekends games could be played on the friday or saturday, whichever suits.

I don't believe reserve football is the 'player development route' for young players that it might have been in the past. My experience is that good young players these days are exposed to enough good quality football in terms of schools, county squads etc and tend to go straight into senior teams (in fact you probably wouldn't want your young star playing in a reserve match!) but there does need to be an outlet for the average or over the hill footballer, whether its the lad who's totally committed and just isn't good enough for seniors or the lad that's happy to train the odd night and take a game for the stiffs at the weekend.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Player Opt outs for 2020 season
« on: January 08, 2020, 03:47:28 PM »
80k per season , is that all itís worth . Maybe itís time the GAA needs to look at ways of rewarding county players without going professional. Would it be a reasonable proposal to look at making tax free pay in their jobs or would that be far fetched ? Surely the govt could take the hit against all the revenue created by county games ?

i think i read somewhere before that AFL has a minimum salary of $80k. There's over 40 on a squad so not all are going to have big money contracts. it's no lose for McShane. Say he's on minimum salary for 2 years and it doesn't work out. He still comes back aged 26 with a few quid in his pocket, far more than he'd be earning here, and having been a professional athlete for 2 years. Remember these guys probably get their accommodation paid for, food paid, wearing club issued gear all week, all your time spent training so single lad probably won't get to spend too much and if he does well then he'll land $100k+ contract in all likelihood.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 08, 2020, 03:28:17 PM »
All I can tell you is what the lad himself is telling the rest of us. It's done, he's with Dungannon. Edendork did not contest the transfer. I'd imagine if you really want to know go to the top pitch at Dungannon tomorrow night....I'll have a private wager with you he's there.

Why is he transferring from Edendork to Dungannon?
Tried a few years ago and left it too late and went back to Edendork. (Dungannon was listed his club on the county panel on facebook) But i think there was a bust up after a league game this year and he apparently quit and came back for the championship without training.. Seems hard managed

Edendork had a dust up among themselves after coalisland game. He was hit by a team mate and club did nothing about it. Decided to jump ship to the neighbours.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: January 07, 2020, 03:51:13 PM »
Seen our seniors training last night. Had to rub my eyes and check I wasn't dreaming. Footballs were in sight and were being used. But holy ghost, its the 7th January?? Any need to be back on a pitch at this time? Any other clubs back on pitch?
Was hearing Cookstown only took a week break after being relegated and have been training since the start of December. They will be on top shape for the coming season, and I back them to go up

They probably only started training the week before they were relegated

Cookstown would have been safer doing a bit of training last year!

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 20, 2019, 03:23:07 PM »
Mainly defenders added again this year, and could possibly add a few more to that list.. Besides the obvious ones (Bradley, Brennan) has everyone else been looked at in the county? Is there anyone obvious missing?

If there's better forwards in the county that aren't already there (either this year or in last 2/3 seasons) then i haven't seen them. Don't see any club forward not involved in county set up that's shooting the lights out in Div 1 or 2 and would be worth a go.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: November 18, 2019, 01:37:16 PM »
Big set back for Cookstown to be relegated to Division 3 for 2020.

Was at the game yesterday. Fair play to Newtown they were the hungrier side and deserved their victory.

Them v Killeeshil next week a massive tie for both.

As someone said earlier, there won't be too many sad to see Cookstown go down. Something about them over recent times leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Talk of infighting tells its own story. Poor squad at the minute and no real sparks of hope at underage so may well find themselves down there for a wee bit. Kildress can attest that it's not an easy division to get out of once you go down.

Was Mugsy not with Fulham Irish this year. Wonder was he registered with them as a player as well as manager? If so, surely would have needed a transfer back to come on to Cookstown?

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: November 13, 2019, 09:07:51 AM »
Talk of a couple of established players taking the year out to go travelling. Wouldn't begrudge them. They've given 6/7 years full pelt to tyrone and it's not long to life/partners/children come along and it's too late to do these things.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 21, 2019, 12:14:36 PM »
Div 1 all but done and dusted in terms of play off spots at this stage.  Tatts down automatically, Edendork v Eglish relegation play off. You'd expect Edendork to come out of that, be interesting how each of them approaches the final league match between them, dummy teams or put down a marker.

Top 4 sorted too by the looks of it. Trillick in fifth and won't be worried about making top 4.  Dromore and Clonoe making a late push for honours, both disappointed by their championship exits. Coalisland seem to have given up the ghost.

Div2 still up for grabs, I expect Galbally to do the double which leaves Loughmacrory going up in automatic league spot and I'd fancy Pomeroy to come through the play offs.

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