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Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
« on: August 06, 2020, 11:07:29 AM »
I’m not sure if any of you are aware but port are missing Paddy OSullivan , Sean Byrne , Alex Mohan, Robbie Pigott, Jake Foster , Ronan Coffey , Stuart Mulpeter all through injury or being out of the country .

Ive heard 1-2 of those are injured. Would be confident that at least 3-4 of those are available. Port are the team to beat IMO.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
« on: August 05, 2020, 11:57:03 PM »
This of all years is Port's to win. I think they will not only win the senior cship this year but it could signal the dawn of a new super power in Laois football. Port to win this year and maybe even string a few together. Huge underage talent there.

Laois / Re: Laois Club SHC 2020
« on: August 02, 2020, 11:19:32 AM »
From watching a few games and seeing team line-ups and subs used I think Castletown look weakest at the moment. A few starters that struggle at this level and very little coming in off the bench. Anything can happen but morale will have taken a knock and they facing two probable 10+ losses before relegation game. The relegation probables on otherside now have score difference to fight for so every minute counts and this could sharpen their hurling whichever team does end up in the relegation game.

Laois / Re: Laois Club SHC 2020
« on: July 31, 2020, 02:50:18 PM »
Would have liked to see how the last few minutes would have played out had that goal not dropped in. Camross had lost their grip a little but generally have a reputation for winning tight games although they have lost their last 2 cship games to late goals. Mark Dowling was the sharpest forward on view. Keenan still has a huge influence for them. I thought Andrew Collier did well also and Carroll was involved a lot. For Borris they got the win without being overly impressive. They need Whelan to have any chance of winning it out. Any word on his injury?

Laois / Re: Laois - Bits & Pieces
« on: May 28, 2020, 12:06:17 AM »
Can we claim Bob O Keeffe?

Laois / Re: Laois senior hurling memories
« on: March 27, 2020, 09:19:26 AM »

1 - Best memory supporting the hurlers- Dublin 2019 pitch invasion, the quarter final was also a day you could be a Laois person with pride too. League qfinal in 96
2 - Favourite match beating kk in 96, Paul Cuddys goal to beat Dublin in Nowlan park early 00s
3 - Favourite player pre 2000, post 2000 (for the older lads) Pj Cuddy, Damien Culleton, Liam Tynan, Mark Kavanagh, Purcell
4 - Best score/favourite Keenan sideline from near 65 v offaly terrace side
5 - Best individual display in a match- Willie Dunphy v Dublin, Hyland v Offaly
6 - Match with best atmosphere Laois v Dublin
7 - Most impressive victory
8 - Favourite county ground Nowlan Park, Tullamore
9- Most disappointing memory ( you can rank them)
Worst- Laois v Meath in Navan around 2002
Losing to Wicklow in Div 2 around 2007
Cork 10-20
I will stop there.
10 - Worst refereeing decision against us

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: March 21, 2020, 01:58:27 PM »
This could be a good chance to move back to u18 for minor and u21 instead of u20. Both switches have been a failure anyway and it would ensure young players dont miss out.

Laois / Re: Allianz Hurling League 2020
« on: March 02, 2020, 06:36:47 PM »

It will also be controversial to suggest this but I think it was potentially a bad decision to allow the Leinster championship to increase by one team in 2021. I really enjoy the matches against Westmeath, Kerry, Carlow, Offaly and Antrim. Nice to get a shot at playing the big teams but until you are truly at the level of the top teams it would be great if you could have a bit of both - a chance to play against teams of your own level in competitive matches and a shot at a couple of Liam McCarthy teams if you are successful. That is why last year was so enjoyable. A two tier round robin where you are hoping to beat the upcoming McDonagh winners and then getting well beaten by all of the 'permanant' Liam McCarthy teams isn't particularly appealing.

I actually agree on this. 6 teams in Leinster will create a cship within a cship. 4 teams competing and 2 trying not to be relegated. The top tier will be diluted and theres a very real danger of 2 teams merely aiming to stay up. Vibrant games v Wm, Kerry, Offaly, Carlow followed by a shot at 3rd placed team in Leinster  suits Laois/Carlow etc better than 5 matches in 6 weeks against tier 1 without a deep panel. GAA have no plan for hurling and merely trade in kneejerk reaction changes to rules and structure changes.

Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
« on: December 16, 2019, 04:34:16 PM »
ClonadMad its something the GDA seem to be eager to tackle. Clubs should take advice from these people as they are objective and have no vested interests in the clubs they are dealing with.

Laois / Re: Laois Hurling Team 00-20
« on: December 15, 2019, 12:48:57 PM »
No James Young?

Laois / Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
« on: December 10, 2019, 11:32:16 AM »

Its hilarious how people get so hung up on the name of a cship. If you are senior you are in the top 8. Next grade you are 9-16th position. Followed by 17th-24th.

Clubs focus should be moving up the rankings, upskilling hurlers, creating opportunities to improve (at all grades) not cribbing over the name of the competition.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurling Championship 2019
« on: November 18, 2019, 05:48:53 PM »
A Leinster League used to operate (and perhaps still does?), but interest in it seemed to dwindle. Of course, not having county panellists involved takes away from it, as well.

Leinster league is a strange affair as teams tend to opt in and out and some counties didn't have their stronger clubs. Leagues are hard enough to get games played as they are and in reality, they are just leagues. Does anyone ever truly develop from playing league matches? Rathdowney Errill plodded through the league but were a different animal in the championship. All they realistically do is help you to get fit for the summer and improve touch.

If we want to improve club hurling in Laois I think the answer is in coaching and permanently combining clubs from weaker areas. Mainly though, it is in the coaching from U8-U14. If a lad is not flying at U-14, he is probably never going to be a good senior hurler. They don't get made later by coaching or exposing them to better hurlers. Can anyone think of exceptions? I bet they are few.

This sums up the attitude. Too much picking and choosing about which games are important. If 2 lads went out in the yard and competed for a ball for an hour every evening are you saying that they wouldnt improve? People need to develop an attitude of team and self improvement.

GAA Discussion / Re: Underage Grades
« on: November 15, 2019, 08:46:30 PM »
Dinny you’ve replied to my comments on why 17 year olds drop out of sport, by citing an article about an under-14 policy in a club falling down with players.

This is not the same thing.

There may be come correlation here, but unless Nemo are also keeping their stronger juvenile players on board as well, and playing junior football while their old teammates  “jump ahead” of them, then it’s the same situation anyhow.

You were talking about teenagers when I quoted you not specifically 17 years old. I think your attitude is wrong and symptomatic of why clubs are struggling with numbers. Unless a kid is competitive at x, y, z age he won't play adult sport to me is simply mind boggling. Since when did playing sport solely become about winning? No wonder clubs are dying on their feet.
Very hard to keep 16/17 year olds involved if there isn't some sort of ambition of winning games and competitions
Might as well be at home on the couch otherwise

Theres a difference between being competitive and winning. If skills have been developed properly from an early age then lads should be equipped to compete at u13/15/17/19. Doesnt mean they need to be winning everything but winning has to be possible. If they dont develop these skills they will take hammerings in these grades and soon fade away. We need to equip these lads to be able to compete.

General discussion / Re: Depression
« on: November 11, 2019, 09:06:43 PM »
Someone posted earlier that a huge proportion of male suicides are by those working in construction.
Anyone else feel the culture of 'making a gobshite' out of lads (especially young lads) is part of the problem?
More experienced lads trying to make young lads look foolish or highlighting mistakes, making videos etc.?
Is this still prevalent and passed off as having the craic?

I worked in construction (although lads were sound) and in agri work (where lads made me feel like a fool) when younger. Id never work with the 2nd crowd again as a result.

Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2019
« on: October 15, 2019, 05:44:57 PM »
If we are serious about maximising the potential of Portlaoise we need a strong county board willing to buy land and form at least one more GAA club in the town. Schools need to be designated to that Knockmay.  Putting nearly every child in Portlaoise into one primary school (Holy Family) is a major hindrance and an example of poor planning in a much broader sense but it can be done. Portlaoise is only getting bigger and one club will not suffice.

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