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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 09, 2019, 10:22:44 PM »
A bit odd having Cooper on the bench. Guaranteed starter if fit, and makes no sense to waste a space in the 26 for him if injured. Smart money would be on him replacing Mike Darragh, with McCarthy going to midfield

Brogan, O’Carroll and O’Gara miss out on 26

Only other possible change is Philly in for either Byrne or Fitz.

Who starts full back?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 09, 2019, 08:58:36 PM »


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The standard of sky's coverage is also far better

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 07, 2019, 11:03:53 AM »
Is Either of AOS or SOS fit enough to keep up with McCarthy

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 03:00:14 PM »
word on the street is that D O Connor suffered a muscle injury and will be out for the foreseeable. unrelated to the wrist injury

that rumour was almost certainly BS

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 02:27:49 PM »
Ruane will be brought in to mark Fenton I’d imagine, he has the engine for him and can give him his fill going forward too
Word is that Diarmuid won’t be back, him and Doc are huge losses

It’s hard to see how we could possibly win this with the way we’ve played this year

Where did you hear that? Diarmuid is almost certain to be back

You could have said that in 2016 and 2017 as well

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 02:00:09 PM »
Looking back at it, it’s the same bench moreless the same bench as 2017, very similar to 2015, and even the core of the bench in 2013 is the same

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 01:20:47 PM »
Definitely the big worry for me is Dublin come in undercooked. While 3 weeks break is better than 1 week, that's offset by the fact we haven't played any game with serious intensity in so long. Also we've had plenty instances this year of starting very slow and being allowed back into games by opposition not taking advantage.

Formwise, we've only been middling.

In the full back line, Cooper is motoring along, but McMahon and Fitzsimons well below par this year. David Byrne has been much better than either, but has a history of being less reliable in the really big games than the other two. Murchan will also put pressure on for a starting place (I think he'd be a cert to mark O'Brien if we ever play Kerry).

At half back, Jack is absolutely flying and Small going well too. McCarthy had a poor year last year in my view that went completely unnoticed. Not sure he's back to his absolute best, but he's much improved and I've no fears he'll play well. Midfield or centre back though? Not sure.  O'Sullivan had no involvement against either Roscommon or Tyrone. May be injured? Still a gem if let play as sweeper. If made man-mark he can be got at.

Fenton is our heart and interesting to see if Mayo put a stopper on him. Keegan or Coen? Or just let Aidan take him. I don't think they'll put Seamie on him.

If Mayo don't try to be too smart, I think their half backs match up very well against our half forward line. I'm a bit worried about that.

Like O'Connor at the other end, Rock will be steady. Give him any time and he'll score.
Con was quiet in Leinster and strong in S8. Mannion the exact opposite. If they both strike it hot, then Mayo are in trouble. If they're both cold and more miss than hit, then we could be in a spot of bother.

Going to be a cracker. Would love to put the hammer down for once v Mayo, but if you offered me a draw I'd snap your hand off!

One of the key differences between the sides over the years has been the strength of Dublin’s squad.
Trying not to be dismissive because I’m sure they’re still quality footballers, but would you be concerned at all to still be calling on the likes of McMenamon?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 12:55:06 PM »
Brogan is just age but could still do damage. Andrews has regressed and O'Gara for Dublin standards was never really at the same level as the rest of them anyway but I guess gave them something different.

In terms of progression from 2017 Howard is a massive addition, McCaffrey is better than he was, McCarthy is too. Fenton another level as well.  The FB line isn't as good though and O'Sullivan has slowed. All in all I'm not sure they are any better or any worse but have just demoralised other teams so much that they maybe look better. O"Callaghan directness a big plus too. I know he was there but he has progressed a lot.

On what evidence are they better now? They’ve hardly had a proper game all year

They haven't had a proper game in 2 years. Last years championship was a joke.

They’re last proper championship game was the 2017 final, nothing to suggest they’ve improved since then

Kilkenny has bulked up and is now a reliable scorer compared to 2017 when he was almost a hindrance at times by slowing up the play and going backwards with his handpassing.

O'Calaghan has bulked up and is having a fine season. Mannion has also bulked up and is a better finisher than 2 years ago.

I’d argue that along with the full back line, the overall squad depth has weakened. Looking at Dublin’s bench it’s very similar to 2017 minus Paul Flynn. the likes of Connolly, Brogan, McMenamon, O’Gara, Daly are all still year. Connolly has hardly played any ball, and Brogan is just back from injury. In general they’re two years older and have regressed.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 12:41:37 PM »
Brogan is just age but could still do damage. Andrews has regressed and O'Gara for Dublin standards was never really at the same level as the rest of them anyway but I guess gave them something different.

In terms of progression from 2017 Howard is a massive addition, McCaffrey is better than he was, McCarthy is too. Fenton another level as well.  The FB line isn't as good though and O'Sullivan has slowed. All in all I'm not sure they are any better or any worse but have just demoralised other teams so much that they maybe look better. O"Callaghan directness a big plus too. I know he was there but he has progressed a lot.

On what evidence are they better now? They’ve hardly had a proper game all year

They haven't had a proper game in 2 years. Last years championship was a joke.

They’re last proper championship game was the 2017 final, nothing to suggest they’ve improved since then

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 12:30:25 PM »
Brogan is just age but could still do damage. Andrews has regressed and O'Gara for Dublin standards was never really at the same level as the rest of them anyway but I guess gave them something different.

In terms of progression from 2017 Howard is a massive addition, McCaffrey is better than he was, McCarthy is too. Fenton another level as well.  The FB line isn't as good though and O'Sullivan has slowed. All in all I'm not sure they are any better or any worse but have just demoralised other teams so much that they maybe look better. O"Callaghan directness a big plus too. I know he was there but he has progressed a lot.

On what evidence are they better now? They’ve hardly had a proper game all year

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 11:53:41 AM »
I'll go with the bookies on this one

Dublin are a totally different side from two years ago

Not as good as they were in 2017 imo
2017 they were still relying on Paul Flynn, Paddy Andrews, O'Gara and Brogan
I also think Con O Calaghan is a better player now

I could be wrong but I’d definitely have the likes of Paul Flynn as better than their counterparts in the current Dublin team. Paddy Andrews, O’Gara, Brogan are also all still on the panel but have regressed.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 06, 2019, 10:59:45 AM »
I'll go with the bookies on this one

Dublin are a totally different side from two years ago

Not as good as they were in 2017 imo

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GAA Discussion / Re: Mayo v Dublin - AISF - Saturday 5pm
« on: August 05, 2019, 10:46:02 PM »
Rock a defo starter imo.

It's a shame Mayo are f**ked up with injury and the scheduling or this could have got very interesting indeed.

Doherty's done his cruciate apparently. We get one soldier back and we lose another. Doherty was motm until the injury. Darren Coen's drop in form is like losing another.

Dublin has had a 3 week lead up into this with a useful kickabout v Tyrone along the way.
We went to the bottom of the well again to beat Donegal. It's a mission impossible to recover from that both mentally and physically. The gobshites who decided this timetable of events must never have competed in any sport at any level.

Mayo's old guard look in rude good health though which makes the injuries to younger guns so bloody frustrating.
 Also frustrating is that some of the Dublin old guard look through to me. Lads that damaged Mayo and others for years. I'm not convinced that some of the Dublin newer players are as good or as tried and tested as the Bernard Brogans etc.
Unfortunately I dont think we are healthy enough to push them enough to crack them.

Other way to look at that is Mayo will be up to the intensity while Dublin may be coming in a bit cold

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