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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: August 05, 2018, 06:29:12 PM »
Anyone know if final positions in the league come down to point difference or head to head ??

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: July 27, 2018, 12:13:47 PM »
So something like the Irish league do on boxing day and have all the derbies. Coleraine vs Ballymena for example.
Suppose it wouldn't be too hard to implement if there are only 2 sets of midweek fixtures.

Yeah exactly. im all for mid week games, but a lot can be said for who you play during them. if anything its failing the reserve football. also by the time sunday comes a lot of teams will have played 4 games in 11/12 days. plus the light training sessions ye have in between those days.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: July 27, 2018, 11:51:54 AM »
Expect nothing else.  Barker and Co dont have a notion.

Clubs wanted their county players for all matches so what do you expect. This is the only solution and as far as I’m concerned Barker and co have been excellent. If clubs were prepared to play starred games without county players as in other counties this wouldn’t be an issue. You can’t have it both ways.

That is correct but there are problems with mid-week games : 1 -- It is very difficult for the away team to get their players available for long distance game e.g. Desertmartin v Slaughtmanus or Steelstown v Lissan and 2 -- Impossible, as has been already said, to full-fill a Reserve game in mid week when the teams are located a long way apart. 

But this is a trial year and hopefully the system can be "tweeked" to address these issues

Croke Park would need to come to "grips" with the real problems of addressing Player Welfare and spend less time placating the Kildares and Dublins of the "nearly professional" Gaelic Football's elite

The system definitely needs improvement. Lissan played Faughenvale on Wednesday, yet play Castledawson on Saturday. You would think anyone with a bit of common sense would have swapped the fixtures about. Especially expecting to fulfil a reserve game at 645 and its a 70 minute drive.

This would mean Faughanvale heading to Desertmartin on wednesday past.  Suit one team to disrupt another?

Ach thats not what i meant at all. Theres no reason why local teams cant play eachother midweek, and leave the longer journeys for the weekend. This year we had to play in foreglen midweek for a 1900 throw in. in slaughtmanus for a 1930 throw in. and faughenvale for a 2000 throwin. was home at 2300 for that match. And im sure its happening to every other club. just a bit of common sense needed. you get up at 630 for work, thats a long day

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: July 27, 2018, 11:16:35 AM »
Expect nothing else.  Barker and Co dont have a notion.

Clubs wanted their county players for all matches so what do you expect. This is the only solution and as far as I’m concerned Barker and co have been excellent. If clubs were prepared to play starred games without county players as in other counties this wouldn’t be an issue. You can’t have it both ways.

That is correct but there are problems with mid-week games : 1 -- It is very difficult for the away team to get their players available for long distance game e.g. Desertmartin v Slaughtmanus or Steelstown v Lissan and 2 -- Impossible, as has been already said, to full-fill a Reserve game in mid week when the teams are located a long way apart. 

But this is a trial year and hopefully the system can be "tweeked" to address these issues

Croke Park would need to come to "grips" with the real problems of addressing Player Welfare and spend less time placating the Kildares and Dublins of the "nearly professional" Gaelic Football's elite

The system definitely needs improvement. Lissan played Faughenvale on Wednesday, yet play Castledawson on Saturday. You would think anyone with a bit of common sense would have swapped the fixtures about. Especially expecting to fulfil a reserve game at 645 and its a 70 minute drive.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: July 02, 2018, 02:05:08 PM »
Will the under 20s affect the league?

was also wondering that

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:35:19 PM »
Coldrick was a disgrace. There was no player protection for paudie cassidy who was constantly getting it around the neck. At least 4 times we broke through for goal and 4 times we were dragged down. Crucial monent when we where 4 points down and through on goal. Jersey pulled. Lynch gets sent of for striking and they get a black card. And a hop ball.

I honestly don't know if its home town blindness or rose coloured specs, but i despair at the nonsense some people come out with. Yes there were probably about 4 high challenges most of them on Big Paudie, yellow card offenses. to claim that these were all when we were breaking through on goal is nonsense, most not even near the goals. Crucial moment.... we were actually 6 behind at the time. i think you may find there were several more crucial moments before that, resulting in us being 6 down. Also, during this incident, us chasing the game, cynical pull down by Kildare man (i would expect any senior player to do the same think to protect a lead btw), why did Mark Lynch get involved in nonsense. The Kildare player was going to get a black, we had simple tap over free, time running down and he gets himself red carded and ball is thrown up, time wasted.  We really have no cuteness, not the time to show who has the biggest muscles.


Hang on big lad. I’m not saying we should have won the game and the better team. Was just statin that coldrick did very little to protect players. Completely agree that Kildare where cuter. And as a player myself I’d do the same in dragging a man down. But he can’t let it happen constantly through out a game  agree that Lynch had no call to be involved in the row. That’s not the point I was trying to make.  Wouldn’t say what I came out with was nonsense.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:08:53 PM »
We can't blame Coldrick, bad as he was.  Defensive approach was brutal.  Letting Kildare carry the ball so far up the field, without a challenge.  What was the thinking there?

Wouldn’t blame coldrick but his performance didn’t help. At times we played very well. But it all came down to how much we concede. Which has been the issue over the past few years. Scoring 2-14 should win most games

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Kildare - Owenbeg, Sat 9th June 3pm
« on: June 09, 2018, 08:03:19 PM »
Kildare very cynical.  Ref completely let them be cynical.  A disgrace.  Derry very naive in defence.

No player protection from him at all

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GAA Discussion / Re: Derry V Kildare - Owenbeg, Sat 9th June 3pm
« on: June 09, 2018, 06:09:42 PM »
Kildare the “cuter” of the two teams. Coldrick was a disgrace. Good luck to ye s for the year.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: June 09, 2018, 06:07:08 PM »
Coldrick was a disgrace. There was no player protection for paudie cassidy who was constantly getting it around the neck. At least 4 times we broke through for goal and 4 times we were dragged down. Crucial monent when we where 4 points down and through on goal. Jersey pulled. Lynch gets sent of for striking and they get a black card. And a hop ball.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: April 06, 2018, 09:55:20 AM »
For all the people at matches on Wednesday there- how many Black Cards did the referee give. Could have been three in our game but none was given.

There was one fore Foreglen. Lissan lad rugby tackled through on nets. coulda been a red in fairness

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: April 06, 2018, 08:45:59 AM »
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2 30 PM Swatragh  --- --- Glenullin  SWATRAGH
2 30 PM Ballinascreen  --- --- Sean O’Leary GAC Newbridge SCREEN
2 30 PM John Mitchel’s GAC, Claudy  --- --- Lavey  LAVEY
2 30 PM The Loup  --- --- O’Donovan Rossa GAC  LOUP
2 30 PM Kilrea  --- --- Glen  GLEN
2 30 PM Slaughtneil  --- --- Ballinderry SLAUGHTNEIL 
2 30 PM St Oliver Plunkett’s GAC, Greenlough  --- --- Coleraine  COLERAINE

H &A Mechanical Services H&A Mechanical Services ACFL Division 2

2 30 PM Steelstown Brian Og’s  --- --- St Malachy’s Castledawson  OGS
2 30 PM St Marys Slaughtmanus GAC  --- --- Craigbane  SMANUS
2 30 PM Banagher  --- --- Faughanvale  BANAGHER
2 30 PM St Michael’s GAC Lissan  --- --- Desertmartin LISSAN
2 30 PM Doire Trasna  --- --- Drum  DRUM


H & A Mechanical Services H&A Mechanical Services ACFL Division 3

2 00 PM Doire Colmcille  --- --- Limavady Wolfhounds  LIMAVADY
2 00 PM Magilligan  --- --- Glack   GLACK
2 00 PM Ogra Colmcille  --- --- Sean Dolans OGRA
2 00 PM St Mary’s Ardmore  --- --- Moneymore GAC MONEYMORE 

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: January 25, 2018, 10:09:24 AM »
Stephen Barker has done a great job the last 2 years with the league and championship. Give it a chance. You'd be concerned with div 3 in 2019 with 4 intermediate teams being relegated. Could be a few bad beatings for a few years but it'll hopefully spur junior teams on.

Sure isn't the league only a warm up for the championship?  :D

Tickle, are the fixtures out?

5 possiably 6 intermediate teams. Think its a bit of a drastic change to implement in one year.
There ll be a lot of squeaky bums in senior and intermediate. Should be a good season

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:02:54 PM »
Anyone hear about the shake up in the leagues for this season?

apparently to 2019 league will change from 16 division 1 teams 14 division 2 teams 8 division 3 teams to 12, 12 and 14.

meaning a serious amount of relegation's.

apparently clubs have no say in the matter

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: November 14, 2017, 01:48:47 PM »
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

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The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

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