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General discussion / Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« on: February 23, 2017, 12:46:05 PM »


As for Brexit, you're right, it could and hopefully will, backfire on them big time ..

Be careful what you wish for. Regardless if they get punished, we're all in this together now and a backfire is on us all.

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General discussion / Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« on: February 23, 2017, 08:56:01 AM »
I know someone pooh poohed it, but all the issues come down to Unionists failure to embrace change, to cling to outdated notions of British superiority and a denial of equality. For example on education their insistence on testing at 11 despite the detrimental effect on their own voters. Obsession over flags etc... Nothing will change until that all changes.

Unionists supported by both Governments have always claimed it was Republicans that needed to change. It's understandable why they have held that line. Unionists today are a product of the great success of consecutive British and Irish governments. Even today, in Dublin in particular, John Hume is the Hero of peace. This is deny any credit of changes made by Republicans and credit the middle man from the Nationalist community. There is no such person credited from the Unionist side as there was no change demanded from Uionnists

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General discussion / Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« on: February 23, 2017, 08:47:17 AM »
And therein lies the problem.....caused by people who don't understand PR .

No it isn't. This was an electoral strategy by SF and people who understand PR not the lack of understanding by the voter.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 18, 2017, 01:58:03 PM »


I agree that Trump is playing to his audience but how would you expect the media to cover the press conference last Thursday?? As if it was just a run of the mill press conference?

I didn't see it. Yeah it's almost impossible to act any other way. THat's my point about it being addictive, or car crash, we just can't help ourselves.
I remember when x factor come out all the Radio DJs and musicians would lambast it and the results would then be covered on the news. We couldn't get enough.
Once the X FActor is over and the winners face the real industry they can't handle it. The bluster is over and they're judged as musicians. Then they crash out. I think Trump is similar to this.

There will be a time that Trump is dealing in politics. That's when he'll be found out.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 18, 2017, 08:30:51 AM »
SNL don't need to work on any sketches this week. They can just rerun the press conference.

Sure, but this is the exact same attitude by most media forms as there was during the Republican Primaries and the Election.
The Irish media are still giving Trump the same credit as prior to the election.
They were all wrong then, yet they are doing the same thing.
Fighting Trump on his ground doesn't work. If everyone treats him like a Paris Hilton type buffoon he'll mop the floor with ye. SNL are only feeding the beast.
A big problem is that most media outlets want the type of coverage Trump provides despite it's counter effect. It's like an addiction, you can't get enough of the thing that's killing you.
Trump should e treated as the PoUSA, a politician in the traditional sense. That's a battle I think he doesn't have the heart for.

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Why bother having a tribunal at all when all that needs to be done is ask the many posters on social media what was going on. Dont worry about little concerns such as evidence and facts

Not merely is it not a topic worth discussing it seems it's a discussion that needs to be shut down.

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Much of a chip on your shoulder??

Yes, all northerners have

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The southern posters are posting more on the Brexit thread than here

It's the same with anything relating to the north.
The difference is, a political scandal in the north is an opportunity to say 'the north is a basket case'. Any political scandal in the north is attributed to the entire people of the north and dismissed as 'typical of the basket case the north is'. DUP, SF, SDLP, PUP etc, regardless of how different they are they are clumped together as northerners.
While in the south, it's the individual or a particualar party or institution that are responsible and isolated. Regardless of how similar the parties in the south are, they are separate and seen as separate. There is no blame attributed to the wider community. The Church Scandal, the property scandal etc. The church and the bankers are to blame, not the Irish people.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: February 17, 2017, 08:30:42 AM »


Yeah straight forward surely, I hope the psni never get through the door of my Club for the time being....

I wouldn't like it either.  Ballsy move by the club. These gambles often don't see the a result for a while. When it's a hot issue many people put their heads down and don't like to talk about it but after a while the real feelings towards it can come out.

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General discussion / Re: Dup will never allow Irish language act
« on: February 16, 2017, 11:54:57 AM »
Listening to some of the discussion about this, I wonder would there be a half-way house on this?

Putting Irish as an official language and all that goes with that (right to courts through irish, all government publications in Irish etc.) is definitely expensive and aimed at a very small minority in a practical sense.

Maybe funding towards language development and a formal recognition in law that Irish is part of Northern Ireland's history and identity would reflect the important of Irish to so many people?

/Jim.

If you know you will have to give concessions in a negotiation you start of by demanding everything. Then the concessions are not so bad.

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The problem Farr is that FF are shit scared that something might turn up that would implicate them also if and when the tribunal starts up. Once the tribunal gets down to work, there's no telling what might be discovered. Remember it was 2008 when Maurice McCabe raised concerns about senior gardaí quashing penalty points and FF were in office then. There will be a lot of squeaky bums on both sides of the Dail chamber when the craic starts and witnesses are called before the tribunal.

That is not the problem.
The mess up here is by FG only. This seems like an attempt to spread blame.

 The problem is institutional abuse across the political and established Irish society.
FF are not responsible for this. This has feck all to do with the potential findings of a tribunal as there will be no one held responsible anyway. Least of all FF. FFs actions here are short sighted as are all their actions. FF are in a good place right now and this current set up is the only thing that interests them. Similar to SF and FG. SF must act as they are the only opposition. FF must not allow SF to act as they must be seen as opposition. FG must protect what they have as the other side is only a loss for them.
Nobody in elected office cares about the tribunal. It's those in the institutions such as the Gardaí and Tulsa that have to worry. Tohe only place there will be change is in these places, not in elected office.

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The lack of comment here from our southern brethren is perplexing.  As Far notes, this appears to be far more serious than the problems in the north. Sgt McCabe's treatment and the current government's actions are beyond belief.

Quite correct in everything you say.
The lack of comments in the volume there should be is worrying.

Maybe there is just a massive fatigued body of people out there who know that all the gombeens need to do is fudge, bluster, have a tribunal, more fudge, more bluster, stick the findings on the shelf with  Moriarty and up Ye boy Ye away we go again lads !!

Because let's face it Ireland is entirely for "the lads" by "the lads"

Who would have thought that a FG junta could be so overtly propped up by a FF parliamentary party.

Qui Bono ? "The lads", nobody will resign, nobody will be sacked, nobody will do any jail time at all, definitely no one will loose their gold plated pension, indeed it most likely will increase.
The place is fucked, utterly utterly fucked.

Exactly. We call ourselves a proud people but in terms of justice and the protection of citizens we're a shamed people. Proud people don't go to ground.

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General discussion / Re: Dup will never allow Irish language act
« on: February 16, 2017, 08:20:26 AM »
Exactly.Anyone who wishes to learn any language should be given the opportunity to attend classes etc,but that's it.We don't need expensive legislation or every bloody document/road sign appearing in two or three different languages at huge cost to the public purse.

We don't need museums either. We can easily store that old stuff in a warehouse or have it destroyed. Why anyone would want to preserve a linen mill is beyond me.
'The Arts' is another one. If ye want to write a piece of music go to x-factor, the private sector is well able to promote the arts without the state spending a penny on it.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Slaughtneil
« on: February 15, 2017, 08:44:12 AM »
Slaughtneil play Cuala in the All -Ireland hurling semi final in Armagh in a fortnight. I'm not going to rehash the achievements of this small club,  you all know the story. 
However I am going to ask you and your family to turn up at the Athletic Grounds for the match. Let's give Slaughtneill and Ulster hurling some support.  Let's make this the biggest Hurling match in Ulster in 20 years.
Are you from a small club who aspire to succeed like Slaughtneil?  Go to the match.
Are you a lifelong GAA man who has never gone to the hurling?  Go to the match.
Are you a sporting romantic and lover of the underdog?  Go to the match.
Would you love to see a hurling game in Ulster that the media couldn't ignore?  Go to the match.
Are you likely to be doing nothing else anyway?  Go to the match.
I'm not a Slaughtneil man, a Derry man or even a Hurling man, but I'm a Gaa man from a small rural club,  and was priveliged to see Slaughtneil win over St Vincents in Newry yesterday.  I wouldn't miss the next match for all the world,  and full heartedly encourage you all to join me there.

Maith thú

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone. 11/02/17. Croke Park, Dublin.
« on: February 15, 2017, 08:22:49 AM »
I honestly believe Derry would have beaten Dublin last year

I agree and I can prove it.

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