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GAA Discussion / Your earliest memories of the GAA
« on: November 13, 2014, 06:36:26 PM »
Sitting at a match between Armagh and Fermanagh in Irvinestown.  Would have been early 80s, maybe late 70s.  I remember my brothers getting all excited because Fermanagh was getting bate. My dad, a Fermanagh man, was sitting behind us with his mates. One of them gave me a sweet every time Fermanagh scored but he didn't succeed in getting me to shout against Armagh!

GAA Discussion / Devastated GAA star gets 48-week ban for UK match
« on: November 11, 2014, 01:14:47 AM »
Devastated GAA star gets 48-week ban for UK match

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Joe McGillycuddy in action for Glenbeigh/Glencar in Kerry.

A YOUNG GAA player has been left "devastated" following the handing down of a 48-week ban for playing in a 'sevens' tournament in England on the weekend of the All-Ireland.

Joe McGillycuddy, who plays with Kerry club Glenbeigh/ Glencar, was hit with the ban when he told the GAA he had played with the Leicester-based Naomh Padraig club in a seven-a-side tournament against St Jude's, despite being registered with the Kerry club.

Mr McGillycuddy, who lives and works in Leicester but commutes home to play with Glenbeigh/Glencar, said he wasn't aware that it was an officially sanctioned GAA competition.

He now faces losing out on participating in his club's upcoming clash against Brosna in the Kerry Junior Championship semi-final.

Should his team progress, he will also miss out on being involved in any county, provincial or All-Ireland club championship matches.

Two four-time All-Ireland winners, former Kerry star Sean O'Sullivan and McGillycuddy's clubmate in Glenbeigh/Glencar Darran O'Sullivan, have condemned the decision, taken following a hearing of the case at Croke Park last Thursday.

A subsequent appeal to the GAA's Central Appeals Committee was unsuccessful, leaving McGillycuddy with the only hope that his case will be reconsidered under the Reinstate Rule.

This allows a player who has served a period of suspension to be reinstated because of the hardship caused by the ban.

Chairman of Glenbeigh/Glencar GAA club Aidan Roche said the decision was particularly disappointing as it was McGillycuddy who had "put his hands up".

He said: "We decided to be totally honest and upfront about the situation once we found out because we didn't want it to cost the club further down the line should we progress in competitions and Joe having played for us in them.

"We're very disappointed for Joe personally but we will just have to let the matter lie for the moment until we see how the coming weeks pan out for the club," he added.

Former Kerry star Sean O'Sullivan tweeted: "It's decisions like this will turn guys off playing the game ... joke".

Kerry footballer Darran O'Sullivan tweeted: "Absolute joke that my club mate has received a 48-week ban for playing in a 'Mickey Mouse' Sevens competition for an English club at the weekend."

He said his clubmate had been rewarded for wages lost and the cost of flights home by getting a ban for playing in a "nothing, kiss-my-a***" competition.

McGillycuddy has made himself available to his home club throughout this season, regularly flying home from Leicester to Co Kerry for matches.

The Glenbeigh/Glencar club has also invested heavily in the player, who is seen as a key member of the squad that has gone from Division Four to Division One, so his loss is a major blow.

How the hell is this in violation of any rule? If it was a sevens tournament then it wasn't an actual county championship or league, therefore there was no need for him to get anyone's permission to play in it. I hope he appeals and gets the suspension lifted.

General discussion / Water charges
« on: October 31, 2014, 04:51:48 AM »
I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread about this.

  • The pipes date back from Victorian times
  • Half the water is lost through leaks
  • Lead contamination is above safe EU levels
  • Water charges are commonplace elsewhere in Europe

Clearly the whole thing needs fixed, it's going to cost money to do it, and there needs to be some sort of conservation incentive in there. If water charges aren't the way to go about it, then where else is the money going to come from? What am I missing?

Daylight Savings Time.

International Rules.

Railway Cup.

New York in the opening round of the football championship.

In our house growing up it was the practice of buying big Christmas presents. "There'll be nothing big bought this year!"

General discussion / Great parliamentary performances
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:55:09 AM »
UK House of Commons

Denis Skinner’s annual quips to Black Rod during the state opening of Parliament

Glenda Jackson’s epic denunciation of Thatcher after her death

Lyndsay Hoyle, deputy speaker, handling the budget. Beats the hell out of Bercow, hopefully he’ll be the next speaker.

Australian House of Representatives

Paul Keating on the Liberal Party’s “Fightback” policy document

Paul Keating’s response to a censure motion. A tirade like no other.

Paul Keating’s attacks the Liberal Party’s “cultural cringe”

Keating on the senate “Unrepresentative swill”

“Give him a valium”

US House of Representatives

Barney Frank kicks Patrick McHenry around the house floor

General discussion / "Parish" and means of local identification
« on: September 27, 2014, 08:07:10 PM »
I've noticed free staters have a tendency to talk about the parish as their means of identifying where they're from.  "Parish" this and "parish" that. They talk about their GAA club representing the parish, which is very different to how it is where I'm from. Round our way the club represents a local rural community or whatever part of the town the club's based in. Country people talk about the townland they're from, townies just reference the town. And when country boys are outside the local area they say they're from whatever the nearest town is. To boys like us, the townland is what you identify with, and that's a subset of the nearest town which you also identify with. The parish is just some abstract concept that only ever gets mentioned by priests. In our "parish" there's two GAA clubs, in the town there's another parish with about half a dozen clubs in it. I'd say a lot of people nowadays would be hard pressed to name their parish.

I've never heard anyone say they're from "Seagoe" which is the name of our parish. I think there was a townland called Seagoe but I'm not sure if anyone lives there now because a lot of it  was built over with industrial estates in the 1960s as part of the Craigavon "new city" development.

Is this a northern thing, to not identify with the parish? Or is it an urban thing and the north happens to be more urbanised? What's it like in Dublin? Does anyone there refer to parishes?  Belfast people ("Belfastards"?) tend to refer to what part of the city they're from, usually named after the nearest main thoroughfare (Lower Falls, Shankill, Springfield Rd. etc.). Can't say I've ever heard any of them boys talk about a parish.

General discussion / The should-we-or-shouldn't-we have a border poll thread
« on: September 20, 2014, 11:51:11 PM »
Should we? Can't say I see the point of one. We'd be doing well if we got more than 30% yes in the north. The place is nowhere near ready for reunification. The north is still too divided, institutions are still unstable because the unionists keep threatening to throw the rattle out of the pram over stupid issues, and democracy hasn't put down deep enough roots yet.

The south is still sorting out a clusterf**k of a financial mess because of the bank bailout, its political system is corrupted by big-shots and parish pump special interests, and the rule of law isn't exactly strong.

It's going to take a while to sort all that out, and I'm not seeing much signs of progress on a lot of it, particularly divisions in the north.

GAA Discussion / "Exploitation" of amateur players
« on: August 19, 2014, 06:02:09 AM »
I can't remember who it was, but some former inter-county player who had gone to Australia tweeted that "no other amateur players are exploited as much" when he heard about the Sky broadcasting deal. He's obviously not familiar with US college sports where student athletes live in poverty because of NCAA rules that stop them from even accepting gifts that could be interpreted as payment for their services. They're allowed a scholarship to cover tuition, free room and board, and not much else. They don't even get a penny from image rights, something that GAA players are allowed to earn.

A Californian judge has struck down the NCAA's rules preventing players from earning money from the likes of image rights. But the "it's time to pay GAA players" crowd shouldn't get too excited though. There are huge differences between the NCAA and the GAA.

An End to Exploitation of Athletes

A court ruling could spell the end of the “amateur” status of top-flight American college sports.

A federal judge in California has struck a blow against the amateur status of college athletes playing in National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) competitions. The ruling, if it is upheld on appeal, will pave the way for college athletes to earn money from image rights, something that GAA players have been doing for years. For the first time, a student athlete whose likeness appears in a video game will be able to earn a share of the millions of dollars generated by it.

Big time college sports have been controversial in America for quite some time, and not just because of the NCAA’s amateur status. College campuses have become home to shiny, modern, opulent stadiums that would not look out of place on the professional sporting circuit. The highest paid staff in some universities are not world-renowned professors but basketball and gridiron football coaches. Indeed coaches are the highest paid public employees in some states, the highest earning $5.6 million per year, with Athletic Directors and assistant coaches earning seven figure sums. Under pressure from influential alumni who see sporting success as essential to maintaining a school’s prestige, massive amounts of resources are poured into what is essentially a source of on-site entertainment for undergraduate students.

Full story...

General discussion / Bruton says Easter Rising was "unnecessary"
« on: August 07, 2014, 08:47:31 PM »
Was it?

"... However this was not how politicians operated in those days. Honor was deemed more important than international peace and stability, brinkmanship was commonplace, and the tendency was to use force more readily to solve problems than in today’s world where war is (or in theory should) be used as a last resort after exhausting the numerous other diplomatic channels that are now available. Therefore if the 1916 Rising was “unnecessary”, it was no more “unnecessary” than the Great War or any other conflict of the time."

GAA Discussion / "Croker"
« on: August 04, 2014, 07:16:37 AM »
I've only ever seen "Croker" written, but I've never heard it spoken. I've only ever heard Croke Park abbreviated to "Croke."

That is all.

Too soon? Yup. But I'm going to stick my neck out and pick Cory Booker.  A lot of parallels with Obama. Young, smart, media savvy, black, good stories to tell (didn't he run into a burning house and save someone?), progressives like him, bipartisan work ethic (working with Rand Paul to fix the mass incarceration crisis), and by the time 2016 comes around he won't have been in the senate long enough to have picked up a dodgy voting record. He's denied that he's going to run of course, but so did Obama at this stage of the game. Hillary has too much baggage and too many skeletons in and out of the closet. Booker's a better bet IMHO.

General discussion / Intriguing sports that you don't see much of
« on: June 16, 2014, 04:57:46 AM »
Canadian football.  Look at the size of that field!

They have 3 downs instead of 4. If a field goal goes wide and drops into the (huge) end zone, a defending player can catch it and run. There's a yard between the teams at the line of scrimmage, which seems to make it a lot more open. Apparently they favor smaller players who can move quickly.  Anybody here ever watch it?

Bandy. Look at the size of that rink!

11-a-side on a rink the size of a soccer pitch. 45 minutes halves. Looks like great stuff. I've always found ice hockey a bit cramped, myself. This gives the players a bit of room to spread out, reminds me of how I always preferred outdoor soccer to indoor because there was a bit of room to play.

GAA Discussion / My hurling prediction for the weekend...
« on: June 06, 2014, 04:20:53 AM »
Sticking my neck out here, I don't usually do predictions because when you get them wrong you can look a bit ridiculous...

Hurling is going to appear on British television at a decent hour, with a British-friendly presentation and a positive spin put on it.  Interest in hurling is going to explode (or at least steadily increase) in Britain and it'll be a sensation.

Stuart Byrne column: I’m delighted Keely’s ’42,000 morons’ comment has sparked debate

Stuey believes giving LOI players a profile and moving away from summer football are two moves which could attract fans.

I’M GLAD TO see that last night’s discussion on Soccer Republic about the recent friendly between Shamrock Rovers and a Liverpool XI has sparked some debate, especially on Twitter.

Dermot Keely said “42,000 morons” attended the game but I think the point he was trying to make was that a hell of a lot of people were effectively going to watch a reserve team. It sounded like he was finding it hard to understand that.

There’s a big difference between paying to see Liverpool’s first team and a second string of youngsters and fringe players. But because it was in the Aviva Stadium and the Liverpool ‘brand’ was attached to it, there was a novelty about the match and the people came out in their droves.

It must be frustrating from Dermot’s point of view — being born and bred in the League of Ireland. Even for myself, seeing that many people go out to watch a reserve team when we can’t get them to their local team is disappointing.

I would hope that last night’s programme can encourage more debate because we just don’t talk about it anymore. There is no attempt to get into the minds of these people or plan to find out why more don’t support our league.

Getting a reaction is great and I want fans to say what they feel so we can try and understand and move on from there.

There simply hasn’t been a big enough effort made to encourage new fans in my opinion. One of the last measures of note I can remember was a television ad from four or five years ago which was funded by the FAI and featured an old man walking around an empty Dalymount Park reminiscing about the past.

It looked horrendous and might as well have been saying: “If you’re over 70, come watch the League of Ireland”. It didn’t appeal to young fans, it didn’t appeal to families, and there was no attempt to make a connection.

We need to give profiles to players in the SSE Airtricity League. I would love to see more interviews like the one with Chris Forrester on Soccer Republic last night. That creates a link between the supporter and the player.

You look at rugby and the GAA and how they profile their best players — the likes of Bernard Brogan, Colm Cooper, Brian O’Driscoll, Jamie Heaslip.

In Irish football, the younger generation have no interest in the players because all they see is the likes of Steven Gerrard on advertisements. We need to start getting players on billboards, television ads… whatever.

You heard one of the fans talking last night about how he went to a League of Ireland game ten years ago and recalling how it was lashing rain. Is this guy for real? He went along and all he could think about was the weather. Does it not lash rain over in Anfield, no?
People perceive the League of Ireland to be something that it’s not and we’ve got to change that as well as a hundred other things. At the moment, we are doing nothing and the longer it goes on the more they’re going to think that way.

We need to show them players like Chris Forrester and say: “Have a look at this goal, look what this guy can do”.

You could debate it all day but there certainly are areas where we can improve. As a player who isn’t long out of the game, helping LOI players to become role models for kids could be a start.

I’ve mentioned it before but summer soccer isn’t doing us any favours either. We could be talking about this in 10 years and nothing may have changed because things take time, especially when you consider the mess Irish football finds itself in at the moment.

If there are changes you can make immediately or within a year, I would point to going back to playing during the old season.

We think about football between September and May in this country. When it comes to the summer months, it’s the GAA, holidays, BBQs, going to the pub on a Friday. They don’t associate the time of the year with going to a football match.

I felt as a player that when we changed to a summer season, the crowds would not be there in May, June and July. It’s a cultural thing. We don’t live a country where the weather is always nice so when it is, we tend to do other things.

For me, reverting back to the old season is a start and I think we need to go from there.

What's the story with Irish soccer then? Is the FAI only focused on the international team and doesn't pay much heed to the domestic league? 

If the marketing is as bad as this article says it is, why is it so bad?  Is the marketing function being micromanaged by an organization that doesn't do marketing very well or doesn't understand why it's important?  If they hired a marketing agency or got their corporate sponsors to take care of it would they get better results?

Would a merging of the IFA and FAI* lead to better competition?

*I know, I know, "unlikely in the foreseeable future" and all, but humour me for the purposes of this discussion.

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