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GAA will never get a meaningful change in the way it panders to vested interests. Football as a spectacle will continue to die a slow ugly death.


Biggest winners of handpass defeat;

Teams that play and teach negative Gaelic football, I.e don’t kick the ball
Managers like Declan Bonner etc, who could not even try it out for more than a few BS games
Tha FAI
The IRFU
Anyone who dislikes Gaelic Football

Biggest losers;

Supporters,

Retarded supporters, with learning difficulties.

Anyone who supported the hand pass rule was the enemy of Gaelic football, the GAA and Ireland in general.

Agree with the sentiment but not the description of them.

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I'm wild confused about some of the rules that were on show in the mckenna cup. Frees blown for catching the ball between the 40 and 21 when its meant to be inside the 21. Also, James Morgan got 2 yellows which should have been a sin bin but instead was shown a red card??

Them rules were amended.

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Of course refs get things wrong but I wouldn’t say that they miss double hops too often and the steps are a bit of grey area with refs seeming to allow lads more steps if the deem they are being fouled. Steps are nowhere near as big an issue in football as hurling and it’s not mentioned there at all.

The bottom line is we need to address how football is being played as it’s become a very poor spectacle and these rules need more time before anyone can say with any degree of certainty if they’re good or not.

Once we allowed players take 10 steps we've made turnovers more difficult. The rule is 4. Enforce it or change it. If turnovers are more difficult then teams adjust and blanket defence is result. And double hops are a rarity because players since the age of eight solo then hop. But the next time you see it happen there will be no foul because referees are not switched on to it. I remember the two man tackle that if more than one player tackled a player it was a foul. Now it's a free every time to the defending team and usually gets a roar from the crowd on a par with a point.

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Count hops? Refs did everything you mentioned bar the hand passes already and seem to be getting on ok. Let’s give it a chance, rather than declaring something is impossible why not give it a good test run and see if you’re right?

Declan Bonner said on OFTB that he’s not doing anything in training to adjust to the new rules yet claims they’re a failure. This is the type of nonsense we shouldn’t be listening to.

Are you saying referees always get steps right and hops? Steps are a joke at this stage. In most games I've seen double hops, referees don't call them because they nearly assume they don't happen. I watched a club game recently where the same player hopped the ball twice and no whistle.

I always like the way Tyrone and Donegal criticised so much for hand passing. Tyrone kicked it a lot in All Ireland final, more so tham Dublin and Donegal scored two iconic goals in All Ireland final from kick and catch.

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I’m finding myself completely distracted by counting the handpasses, but you can nearly see the panic in players when they have to kick, which is sad to see.  I’m all for giving the hand pass rule a chance despite all the whinging.  The awkward truth is that the way football has been coached by many managers has ruined it as a spectacle (with the odd exception) and a whole generation of players believe conservative/negative/possession/percentage football is the only way. When I go to a game now I often have no idea why players run into certain positions, they have become programmed to systems rather than playing on their instincts.

And that's the point. The ref has to count them too and also count hops and steps at same time. At same time they have to look out for for a jersey pull etc... maybe forty yards away. Also with mark being up to speed to see where kick pass was from and judge distance travelled. Impossible.

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General discussion / Re: You know what really grinds my gears?
« on: January 18, 2019, 12:57:52 PM »
Touche.

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General discussion / Re: You know what really grinds my gears?
« on: January 18, 2019, 10:45:07 AM »
1 - Joggers running on the road beside the pavement.

2 - Joggers running along country roads with no pavements with headphones on.

People who use American terms.

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General discussion / Re: The Super(ish) Leeds United Thread
« on: January 16, 2019, 08:39:31 PM »
MB to conclude: “We look at Stoke and it’s hard as the new coach has had 3 games. So we analysed the 26 games he (Nathan Jones) had at Luton.” #lufc

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One positive change I'd like to see is a traditional Irish split in the GAA. Let the Ulster teams who favour the current set up carry on as they are, giving primacy to tactical massed defence, running with the ball through "blankets", passing through the hands, further development of the game into a sort of basketball/rugby hybrid, coming up with new ways to spoil the spectacle etc etc and let the more naive, purist counties from Connacht , Munster and Leinster get on with developing their game back into something it should resemble i.e. FOOTball 😜
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xonkqJt19dM

If you go to 39:07 you will hear John O'Mahony talking about the Mick O'Dwyer managed Kildare team playing a blanket defense in 1998.  Bit ironic that most people assume Pat Spillane invented the term in 2003 when giving out about northern teams.

At that time Tyrone used a high press on whoever was in possession. Not even remotely defensive. The exact same thing Kerry did in 1997 except Tyrone were more systematic in their application.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League players no longer with us
« on: January 13, 2019, 10:02:16 AM »
Phil Masinga

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: January 13, 2019, 09:25:48 AM »
Anyone see Zebo's Instagram post? Seems to be implying the Ulster crowd shouting some awful stuff.

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"RTÉ's live club championship matches will consist of two matches each weekend, from September through November. Running alongside TG4's existing coverage, RTÉ will select their own two matches separate from the Irish language broadcaster's choices."

That's a serious amount of club football. Great to see!

Hopefully tg4 get 1st preference , theyve done great coverage throughout the years and deserve he pick of the games but delighted rte are on board now too and its great all the extra coverage

TG4 have first choice.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: January 10, 2019, 01:14:26 PM »
Eh....yeah ....right....okay
That's probably your most articulate post today, to be fair.

It's certainly a lot more articulate than the torrents of racist, misogynist, transphobic rot you were angrily spewing out earlier.

There's no sadder and more pathetic little man than one who feels threatened by the happiness and well being of others, as you so clearly do about trans people.

How’s the hat coming along?

Maybe you can pretend to be black too like that guy Shaun King from Black Lives Matter

Think about it......you could go to the march as a Black Woman.   How wild would that be?

Sid indicated he wants females of color to lead the democrat ticket in the next election




Warren / Dolzeal 2020

Who cares? Only sexists and racists.

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Cavan / Re: Official Cavan GAA Thread
« on: January 10, 2019, 12:59:38 PM »
Was Gunner not given extra time off with the club run to Ulster final?

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GAA Discussion / Re: McKenna Cup 2019
« on: January 09, 2019, 08:43:46 PM »
Tyrone Fermanagh 2 2 HT.

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